When did you realize your parent(s) were toxic?

I not too recently realized my mother is a horrible human being and has made me miserable for years and years and now is doing the same to my father. My parents are still married and I'm an adult and don't follow their dynamics too closely. He's just told me he said something strongly worded to her although he chose not to tell me what it was. As I see it they make each other miserable and I wish so badly I could fix it. I'm looking for any advice on how to or not to interfere, although I agree with my father's version more than my mother's.. in actuality, she has no version at all and pretends everything is normal and alright between them when speaking to me.

How can an adult child take sides or not choose a parent when they're not part of said relationship?

I really need serious advice.

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  • Boojum

    Your fundamental assumption seems to be that, as the child of your parents, you owe them both loyalty, affection and emotional support for the rest of their lives.

    I can't accept this is the case (and, BTW, I speak as a parent). You didn't ask to be born, so you owe them nothing by virtue of your existence. You might be grateful for the care they showed you while you were growing up, but that's a duty all parents commit to when they decide to have a child. If you grew up knowing you were loved by them, then you should appreciate that, but this also is what any caring parent should provide their child, and there's no moral requirement that we must all be eternally grateful and beholden to anyone who loves us at some point in our lives.

    You're an adult now, and you have the right to come to your own conclusions about the people your parents are. You have the right to decide which - if either - of them you agree with in any given situation, if you're willing to provide emotional support to one or both of them, or if you think one or both of them is not the sort of person you'd welcome into your life if you'd only just met them.

    I understand your wish that they had a more positive relationship and your desire to "fix" them, but you can no more do that than you can fix the relationships of anyone else you know. For whatever reasons, they're still together. As long as one of them isn't keeping the other chained up in the cellar or so terrorising them that they fear for their life if they were to leave, staying together is their choice, and you have to respect that. You don't have to approve of the relationship or even try to comprehend the dynamics at work, but you do have to accept it.

    If you feel sympathy for your father and believe that listening to his complaints is helpful to him, then do so, but it's not your place to suggest what he should do. If you find listening to his complaints difficult to handle, then you should tell him this, and suggest that he consider seeking help from a relationship counsellor.

    If you find that time spent with your mother opens old wounds and invariably ruins your day, then avoid spending any time with her. If she is indeed some variety of toxic personality, then she'll probably resent this and try to manipulate you into spending time with her. Remember that it's your life, and you have the right to decide who you expend your time and emotional energy on.

    It seems to me that about all you can take from your current understanding of your parents' relationship is a few ideas of what you _don't_ want in your own relationships. We all form our first concepts of how relationships work from how we see our parents interacting when we're growing up. If the relationship is positive and loving, that can form a solid basis for us creating our own positive and loving relationships. If a parental relationship is dysfunctional, that can lead us repeating the scripts we learned as a child from the parent of our gender, and being inclined to choose partners who will fill the role of the parent of the opposite gender. Overcoming these deeply embedded ideas can be difficult, but the first step is recognising where they come from.

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  • SunSnow

    I love my parents... But i have to leave them to live my life.

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  • NormalAdventure

    Simple. You are an adult. Living on your own (hopefully). Go do your own thing and let them do theirs. Don't get involved. Serious advice and a solution that is simple.

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  • controversy

    Parents are often an embarrassment.

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  • bigbudchonga

    Something like this is going to be very hard to interfere with without everything blowing up. Maybe next time she's really having a go at him in front of you, just say something like "why are you always so horrible to dad, I can't take it anymore". The problem is, if you talk to her about it then she might think he's "poisoning you against her", and then that will make things worse for him. I would try and just blurt it out when they're both there (but no one else is there) and try and make it look as spontaneous and passionate as possible.

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    • Unknown_player

      I wrote my comment before I scrolled up and saw yours but I feel a lot of the same with this, I think op should get the full story

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  • cupcake_wants

    Unfortunately you don't have a magic wand and can fix everything. You can listen to your dad or mom if they need a shoulder to cry on, but not really much more than that. Just let them know u care.

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    • Finally, someone who doesnt see everyone around them as a narcassistic psychopath piece of shit.

      Look, for real, everyone's parents have their problems, because parents are just people. people with flaws, people who made mistakes, and people who had their own parents who raised them to be what they are. I'm not saying "bad parenting" is acceptable, but at the same time people need to look for the good in others instead of finding every single opportunity to point out what is wrong about them.

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  • Unknown_player

    You're still their kid, no matter if you chose to pick a side but you can remain bias, you don't even have to interfere unless if it's actively concerning you, truthfully, they could just be staying together in hopes to give you a "normal" family life,picking sides right now might not be the best decision to make considering you don't know the full story and your mum might not tell you what's going on because she's going through some struggles of her own she mightn't want to concern you

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  • LiterallyJustWhy

    i relate to your situation. a lot of times the more victimized party will never admit to others that there is a problem. you can try and appeal to them and offer a way out but odds are they will get defensive and never admit it. dont let their toxicity hurt you and distance yourself if need be but when it comes to their toxicity to eachother they may or may not need to figure that out on your own. best of luck

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  • Aethylfritha

    My mom is great but my dad is a sociopath and/ or narcissit. I think i realized this around age 10... Seeing how he cheated on my mom, lied endlessly and didnt seem to mind cheating people in business. Hes not violent or anything just extremely selfish and not wanting to share his money with his own family. His relationship with his own mom was messed up.

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  • litelander8

    My mom beat the snot out of me and my siblings. I've always known she was "toxic".

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  • RoseIsabella

    I'm pretty sure my parents were narcissists.

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  • d0esnormalmatter

    First off, just distance yourself from the.

    Second off, my parents aren't toxic and I find it very short sited of you to assume everyone elses parents are toxic.

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