Weirdguys shitpost proud boys

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I hear a lot about the American organization known as the proud boys its often labeled far right by the media. Everywhere I see the proud boys mentioned in the media it says "far rights, anti lgtb rights, racists, and misogynists" but I personally have not ever heard of them doing or saying any of those things and I listen to Gavins podcast regularly.

Gavin (the leader) says very mildly right ideas like "Men should be getting paid enough to where their wives can not have to work. The nuclear family is the number 1 most important thing. How we should help our own country first. And arguments of why the white supremacist term used against the right is silly."

I view far right something more like "Never shake the hand of a black man. Black men should be shot. Whites need to take back the power from the jews. This country is for white people"

Explain to me how proud boys is far right. Exactly what did they do/say? Maybe I am wrong and theyre super nazi type right wingers but im not buying it

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  • [Old Memory]
    2 years ago

    Well for one thing they contributed a lot to the Jan 6 attack. I think at least two people are identified as leaders in their local chapters and dozens were members. It was actually bad enough that the group had to restructure their organization since their leaders were in jail. Iirc the group denies any involvement with the attack and any desire to attack

    And the attack was based on Trump saying "show the senate how much you care" which the crowd started marching towards the building right after he said that. And if you know about Trump and how he manipulates the system for his own personal gain and justifies it on the principal the founding fathers built a country that allows him to do it, it makes us wonder why a group called proud boys would have him as their mascot

    The far right doesn't mean racist, it means the ends justify the means and you can do whatever you want as long as you lie and don't get caught and do it in some quasi capitalistic sense.

    Mitch McConnell is another good example of far right. He's willing to let the debt ceiling crash and economy fail because a republican isn't president.

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    • LloydAsher
      2 years ago

      The "insurrection" anyone who has a six grade knowlage of the goverment knows a riot wont do shit to change the situation. Most right wingers there was just there to see Trump speak, as he was speaking that's when the rioters broke in and got conveniently escorted by cops through doors opened by them.

      The proud boys are a right wing faction. Far right is an overreach. To the people who say the capital riots were unacceptable are the same people who say the BLM riots were justifiable. Neither riots were acceptable behaviour. But the media exclusively calling out on the ONE right wing backed riot is what's wrong with america today? Not the antifa and BLM riots that caused Billions of dollars in damages and multiple times more deaths?

      The far right is far smaller than people think it is. Far right are the actual white supremacists that think that socialism might work if it was only white people in the country. So to me they are just as retarded as the communists that function on the left.

      The perception of the far right being large is being artificially inflated by people associating right wing groups as being far right dispite them not actually having far right opinions, rather currently the right has a much better populism angle than the establishment. Which the proud boys are anti establishment dispite the establishment being filled with Republicans too.

      Its populism vs establishment.

      It's a far right opinion to not have open borders. It's a far right opinion for people to choose what they independently do for themselves rather than asking if big brother goverment for permission first. It's a far right opinion to disagree with the goverment since the goverment can never be in the wrong.

      Mitch Mconnell is a wet fart of a Republican, who deserves to be primaried out of the position. That being said the reason why hes not raising the debt ceiling is because biden wants to put in a 4 TRILLION dollar plan. That's really solving the massive debt we are already in isnt it? But of course the IRS needs to know of everyone's bank account over 600$ so they can tax the rich. Totally wont be taxing the poor since they learn they do freelance work like uber or doordash thus will tax them.

      In my opinion I support the proud boys which just started out as a meme boys club where the initiation is to get beat up while naming breakfast cereals. The same group that has/had a black president. Something a white supremacists group wouldnt have.

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    • 1WeirdGuy
      2 years ago

      Let me ask you a question I really am not trying to bait you here either.

      If you knew for a fact a election in your country was rigged do you think it would be wrong to try to overthrow the election? I am positive your answer WOULD be yes but you will say no just for the sake of believing this is a bait question.

      I 100% believe the election was rigged and I could show you so much evidence that would make your jaw drop but you dont want to hear it.

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      • [Old Memory]
        2 years ago

        I would say yes, but it better not be Mike Lindell telling us about it. This is off topic but I feel like Trump threw him a few crack rocks or some money, which is why he's doing his shenanigans. Really off topic but I also feel like he thinks he's protected under the first amendment even though he's not.

        Unless someone is bringing compelling evidence forward I'm not likely to believe them. If you know it's rigged then you must know how, unless it's a baseless accusation. Even if someone merely overheard a conversation about rigging the election I would think there would be avenues for them to tell someone who could then monitor it appropriately.

        Why would anyone expect to just say something was rigged and expect to form a new government the next day? Just the idea that someone would think to try that is enough to question their integrity

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      • LloydAsher
        2 years ago

        I honestly just think the election wasnt stolen but the democrats definitely pulled every favor and tatic out of their ass to win.

        I dont need any evidence to try to prove me otherwise here. Since there's nothing the average person can do right now to change anything.

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  • PurpleHoneycomb
    2 years ago

    It's less about the leader and more about the organization as a whole. From my understanding, the leader himself is actually much more moderate than a vast majority of the membership is.

    A lot of the organization as a whole, however, is in fact radically far right.

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    • LloydAsher
      2 years ago

      I think it's the media depiction of the group rather than the reality of actually asking the members.

      I've talked to actual proud boys before. They aren't radical but the current events are bad enough where even being slightly anti goverment is presented as being a seditious movement being squarely the fault of republicans negating the exsistance of antifa and blm riots that destroyed thousands of windows and buisnesses.

      Riots mess up local economies and make them less appealing for future buisness. The LA riots still left a lasting economic impact on the areas that the riots took place.

      In my opinion the proud boys are the only ones with the balls to actually beat up the people breaking other peoples shit..

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