So, parler got hacked and data dumped before being taken offline

Parler, QAnon... it's almost got an air of freemasonry about it.

Total layperson here (unless obscure, old-school forums like 'Is It Normal' can be counted as a 'toe in the water'), but crypto-stuff intrigues me. Is anyone here involved in anything like that??

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  • Good.

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  • Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t they taking it town because people were conspiring violent groups on it and planning etc.?

    I’m all for free speech, I think they were planning something on it in terms of more riots/bombings etc. so may have been something federal? Idk

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  • Censorship is stupid (especially against famous people) All it does is create a streisand effect, martyr whoever/whatever is being censored & convince those affected they are in the right/being oppressed. Unless it's of a private nature like someone's sex life, car plates or home address (unless they did something illegal) Censorship should never be used, not even against hate speech. Just beat them in a debate (it's not hard, just bury them in facts, statistics & evidence) You don't even have to change their mind, just make them look stupid in front of everyone, they often do that themselves (like that time they let the KKK talk on live TV & give their reasonings, Just for everyone to see that they were a bunch of uninformed dumbasses)

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  • "A few years ago, an extremist in Pakistan fought to have me sentenced to death because Facebook refused to ban content about Mohammed that offended him.

    We stood up for this because different voices -- even if they're sometimes offensive -- can make the world a better and more interesting place.

    Facebook has always been a place where people across the world share their views and ideas. We follow the laws in each country, but we never let one country or group of people dictate what people can share across the world.

    Yet as I reflect on yesterday's attack and my own experience with extremism, this is what we all need to reject -- a group of extremists trying to silence the voices and opinions of everyone else around the world.

    I won't let that happen on Facebook. I'm committed to building a service where you can speak freely without fear of violence.

    My thoughts are with the victims, their families, the people of France and the people all over the world who choose to share their views and ideas, even when that takes courage. #JeSuisCharlie"

    Mark Zuckerberg 2015

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    • So he's a hypocrite for not doing it before but it's better to be a hypocrite for doing the right thing now than continue to do wrong. He should have banned that guy just like he should have banned Trump when he did. To be fair he waited until it was too late with Trump. Should have done it in November.

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  • Im not a fan of it. Parler is about to be history.

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    • If you think parlor is the end for communication you are just wrong. Signal and other encrypted data sharing is skyrocketing in downloads.

      By removing the crazy people from the sunshine you are removing your own ability to see the craziness and be aware of how crazy they are. So now you cant see the real crazies because you moved them out of sight.

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  • Its sad to me. Parlers policy was just to be an app for free speech. Their policy is to be like the town public square where anyone can share their opinion and big tech labeled them a "right wing extremist app". Over 75 million people just voted for the president but big tech wants to silence half of a country. Questioning the election results will now get you banned on youtube and twitter. People with millions of subscribers are getting banned for showing questionable surveillance footage of poll workers kicking out observers and counting votes in Georgia appearing to pull votes out hidden under a table once the observers were told tjey were done counting, or poll workers filling out ballots in Pennsylvania. They were ok with Russia collusion story for 4 years.

    These big tech companies are legally declared public forums and get all the privileges of being a public forum but they are more like publishers at this point. Section 230 was intended to make it legal for them to take down things like porn or death footage. It was not intended to silence a whole political party.

    So now we have to sit back and see what the left wants to do they have ABSOLUTE power at this point. They own congress, the senate, the presidency, the media, big tech, FBI, CIA.

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  • All that is way, way beyond my pathetic tech skills, but if it's true, it's totally fucking hilarious.

    This has the air of one of those social media BS stories that you really want to be true, so I was sceptical at first. Not least because I dimly recalled hearing something similar a few months ago, and then hearing that was a spoof intended to freak out the Parler freaks. Which it apparently did, for some strange reason. You'd almost think these people knew they had something to hide...

    However, Vice and Gizmodo are reporting today that it might just be true this time. A hacker claims to have managed to get into the system with the intention of grabbing everything posted last Wednesday, but when Amazon announced they were yanking Parler's plug, she got others involved, and they claim to have downloaded almost everything on the server, including deleted posts and videos from last Wednesday which include GPS tags.

    As I say, one of those stories you really want to be true, but I remain to be convinced.

    Of course, if the Trump cult _really_ wants to be safe, they could go back to the tried and true methods used by revolutionaries through the ages and meet in disguise in dark alleys to plot their overthrowing of the duly elected government. Maybe they should take a hint from American history and hang lanterns in steeples to signal their plans to each other. That would be fairly hack-proof.

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    • I hope the material becomes publicly available - I would just love to read what the riot organisers wrote. As I've said elsewhere, for me, it's all about evidence.

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      • I heard it will be available on archive.org and keyword searchable

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      • The more I read about this, the more I'm convinced that it did actually happen. There's some debate about how it was possible, but it appears that the bottom line is that the people who ran Parler were almost as stupid as the users of the service.

        It's early days, but I suspect the fallout from the trawl through the massive download of posts and videos (including ones the users believed had been deleted) will go on for some time. If I were a Parler user who had ever posted even slightly seditious stuff, I would be concerned. If I were a Parler user who posted a video from inside the Capitol and then deleted it when the light began to dawn that Trump is a lying asshole and the revolution wasn't going to happen, I'd be shitting myself.

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        • Parler apparently recorded the gps coordinates of posts made too lol

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      • You do realize if crazy trump supporters believe that they are on an edge of a cliff they are going to bite back hard right?

        By removing parlor big tech is essentially saying that while you can build a conservative website we wont stand for it.

        I was on parlor and honestly there was the same amount of petty threats going on as twitter. Yet just because twitter is getting a nice deal with amazon, Amazon believes that they can forgo their contract with parlor.

        It's a shitty thing to do to break contracts especially if theres a conflict of intrest because a bigger tech company would like less competition.

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  • Wasn't Parler just free speech twitter? Pretty convenient timing given that Trump was just kicked off Twitter.

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    • Even more so convenient since Twitter lost $5 billion$ in stocks a few days ago.

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      • Better to lose five billion dollars than another 5 lives, but I doubt people who rally against a decent healthcare system like the rest of the civilized world has would agree.

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        • Don't even try & pretend this is about the lives lost in DC, this is nothing more than.
          1: A power grab by twitter/apple & they're using Trump going to Parler as an excuse to eliminate competition.

          2: Blatant hypocrisy on the left's part. Where was all this holier than thou violence is bad during the BLM/Antifa riots where 30+ died (& i'm low balling that, it's more likely 50) & $1 billion$ in damage was done. They were literally encouraging/justifying it.
          https://youtu.be/aiSDflIuRWM
          https://youtu.be/IVpNFJf4pko
          https://youtu.be/Z0VLlZULyJg?t=24
          https://youtu.be/oxo5DjCyKq8?t=8
          they even did it before the riots
          https://youtu.be/GWvqn8F7YMs?t=277
          https://youtu.be/5yYm3yNrxT4

          But when the trumpets (& not all of them were trump supporters some were blm/antifa)
          https://youtu.be/hv6CFr3Djp8

          run in, take a dump in a corner, piss on a desk, steal a podium & smash a window (which they say was antifa you can hear the trumpets booing & yelling fuck antifa/somebody stop them)
          https://youtu.be/Nvmw-SM8pVE
          https://youtu.be/cBFSw2g-mQo
          https://twitter.com/emmbeliever/status/1347007733619372035

          THEN The media clutches it's pearls & acts like it's the worst thing ever & 4 of the 5 dead where the MAGots. This is nowhere in any way, shape or form worse or even equal to the BLM/Antifa riots in any way.

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          • Oh you're one of those who thinks fucking anfifa did this. In other words you have a low IQ.

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            • "Oh you're one of those who thinks fucking anfifa did this"

              You shouldn't assume things, you'll look awfully stupid when you're wrong.
              No. I'm not verifying that matter until all the people at the event are caught/identified, but it is a fact antifa members were present at the event & the evidence is starting to point that the trumpets might not be full of shit.

              "In other words you have a low IQ."

              It's not wise to insult someone's intelligence when there's a spelling error in your comment.

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  • Big tech has been talking about taking it down since the DC riots. Parler CEO said apple owns their servers and is threatening to take them down if they wont censor. Idk if apple took them down or not. It was really just a social media site thats policy was free speech and to be like the public square. Kind of sad 76 million ppl are being censored.

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    • Someone needs to break out the anti-trust laws.

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      • Amazon also blatantly broke their own contract with parlor. Amazon said in it's own contract that it will give parlor 30 days of service before they disconnect them from the server.

        Parlor was also at the negotiating table for amazon which it denied. This is highly suspicious because amazon just signed a server lease to twitter and parlor was gaining in popularity so this is a clear conflict of intrest.

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  • Parler is probably the only social media platform I was interested in joining. It's not really crypto, it's just not as totalitarian as the other sites.

    As for QAnon, I've heard of it, but I don't know what it is.

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    • QAnon is completely whack and intelligent rightists know it. They've made something like 50 completely false predictions and eventually just started posting cryptic messages so it's less clear when they're wrong over and over. They claim to be some government insider but it's rather obvious that they're a leftist troll getting a kick out of how easily manipulated some of these people are and laughing about it.

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  • Very hilarious!

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  • I will never support censorship of speech, regardless of who does it or for what reason. I am socially conservative but economically liberal. I support Bernie Sanders politically

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  • What is Parler?

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