Should dueling be legal?
Should dueling with pistols be legalized? With strict rules, of course! Such as: Not while intoxicated, credible witnesses present, no duress, waiting period, etc.
| Yes!! | 52 | |
| No!! | 66 |
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Frosties
If the only way of resolving dispute is a fight to the death, we may as well throw off any pretence of civilisation, get our loincloths on and descend to savagery and barbarism. And I say this as someone who is a good shot.
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chicken471bologna
Legalize it now! I say if two dumbass morons want to solve their disputes in a duel then they can have at! I don't give a shit about them.
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sograceful
Didn't we get past this stop on the evolution train like a hundred years ago? Like, what the fuck kind of good results can come from a duel?
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NeuroNeptunian
Uh, you obviously don't know about gang crime or tribal warfare. No, we haven't passed this stop, we just made it illegal.
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nobleserpent
For those who answered No- Why did you answer that way?
*I'm not the OP*
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dom180
No. Even if the only people who die are "jerks and morons", it's still not okay for them to die. They are people, after all. And who's to say there wouldn't still be an honour element to refusing a duel?
That said, I'm anti-gun ownership as well, so of course I'm not pro-dueling.
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shade_ilmaendu
Yes because if you take guns off the shelves in the stores, surely the criminals won't get them from the black market and now they'll be able to slaughter unarmed civilians because the government took away their ability to defend themselves. Good idea.
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dom180
Maybe I wasn't very clear in my views about gun ownership and came across as a no-brained liberal thinker. I agree that banning guns overnight and all at once would not work in the US. What we need to do is phase out the legality of gun ownership after having tackled gang culture and organised crime, which no government in the US has ever been able to get its head around. In the very long term, I think that banning all firearms should be the goal, but this cannot be done now while the market for black market weapons still exists. Once gang culture is tackled then firearms should be phased gradually out as there would be no need for the members of the public to own them (of course, this would be so unpopular, not to mention unconstitutional, that it'll never happen any time soon).
Here are the most recent statistics for annual firearm-related murders in the US, where gun ownership is legal, compared to the UK, where it is very tightly controlled:
US - 9369
UK - 14Now, the US has a population almost exactly 5 times bigger than the UK, but even when we adjust for this this the US has 134 times (yes, 134 times) more gun-related murders than the UK.
This proves that looser gun laws are not strictly related to lower gun violence. In the US, outlawing firearms would not reduce gun crime because there is a gun culture where organised criminals would and could purchase illegal weapons on the black market. However, if you were to claim that tighter gun laws don't reduce gun crime in any cases at all, this would be false, as proved by those statistics.
Here's my source for the gun-murder rates (population data is available easily with a Google search if you wanted to check that): <a href="http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_f...</a>
If you want to have a constructive and sensible debate, I'm open to discussion with you.
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shade_ilmaendu
Oh nice, you've really done your homework. :D I can definitely respect your stance on this. Kind of a dorky reference but I remember in this fantasy novel when this group of warriors saw a bomb for the first time. Obviously a much smaller explosion that what we're capable of today, but the reactions of the people were intense... it was as though they'd just blown up all of washington DC, they were so shocked. And it really got me thinking, manking would have been a hell of a lot better off if we had never invented gunpowder. We got too good at killing each other.
I do apologise for the tone of my previous comment, it did sort of come off as a flawed argument but Im glad to see I was mistaken :)
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TerryVie
Sure. I'm all for it.
After all, both parties have to agree, and the "honor loss" by not accepting a challange would be neglectable today.
So, following that train of thought, and taking into consideration that medical insurances will NOT cover this, there's only 2 (overlapping) kinds of people that will actually end up in duels:
Morons and total jerks.So every person dying in a duel will improve our gene pool as a whole.
On a side note, i'm also FOR legalizing russian roulette.
Darwin Award-kudos to the guy that didn't use a revolver, but a gun with a magazine(with 1 bullet only, of course) for that and got away with letting the other guy shoot first.
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mr.hmm
Dueling should not be legalized.
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If one and another do have a problem with each other the death of one is better for all but one! I see how it would have worked in the renaisance, or whenever.Comment Hidden ( show ) -
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lolol555
I originally voted no but now I wish I could change that vote!
Reading the comments, I have now been educated on the subject and with those rules the OP specified I'm all for it!
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dickwashington
id pay to see that shit stimulate the economy and shit give people jobs cleaning up after words butt fuck dueling some one my self
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Who_Fan4Life
A famous United States member of the government was shot and killed in a duel. The two were political rivals. If anyone guesses the name of this man, you get a free.....hug!
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PumpkinKate
With the way a code of dueling honor (the rules were quite extensive and elaborate) works in conjunction with modern medical science, the only outcome I can really see is a bunch of super expensive hospital bills and a few unlucky people who never made it to the ER.
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aussiewolf
yes i think they should make that legal again. i also think there shouldnt be any rules attached like it used to be. if you get so plastered drunk that you cause trouble then you deserve it, it teaches you to act responsibly and not drink like a tard. it will also teach people real respect, not like people think they have respect now. be nice, dont get shot. be a jerk, get shot. sounds good to me!
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myownopinions
I said no, but that's just cause I'm a pacifist, and two people shooting at each other with pistols might get out of hand. It's kinds like asking if we should legalize death if both parties agree.
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Anonymous Post Author
But it's their choice, why can't people have the choice to engage in a duel?
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myownopinions
There are more legal ways to do this, then just shooting at each other. Plus, making it legal would just take a lot of work.
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Anonymous Post Author
There's no real way for average people to legally engage in any sort of combat. You're not 'allowed' to fist fight even if both parties want to. Dueling would most likely be a means to end a feud that has been ongoing, and after exhausting any legal means to settle things.
What are our options for a legal duel these days? Lawsuits? Restraining orders? Calling the cops on any little thing you can to get the other guy in trouble? Am I missing something? Those things don't always solve the problem. Lots of times those things make the problem worse.
Anyway I don't think tons of people would be signing up to duel, it's not like people would all of a sudden duel because they got cut in line or took the last Cabbage Patch doll. I'd think it would be reserved for the most serious of situations, I don't see why not to allow it.
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Shackleford96
"Anyway I don't think tons of people would be signing up to duel, it's not like people would all of a sudden duel because they got cut in line or took the last Cabbage Patch doll."
Oh, but they would too! The stupidity of people far exceeds what you are giving them credit for!
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myownopinions
Hmmm, and with strict rules...
Okay, you convinced me, though it still would be a pain in the butt to create and makes workable, so I guess it'll never happen.
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