People pleaser or standing up for yourself is like a double-edged sword

I used to be a people pleaser and very nice to people. While lots of people became very close and fond of me because I was sweet and innocent, I can see I was also being emotionally bullied, ridiculed and used for their own gains by some of the bad apples where at the same time wore the 'friend' masks. In return, I got a positive reputation of being a sweet, a soft, a friendly, easy to approach and a gentle person by many when I was a people pleaser.

Now that I've changed. I stand up for myself because I felt like a loser and had enough of being used or ridiculed, I started to lose lots of positive impressions from others. I fought some of the bad apples and called out on their detestable actions while a few guy friends hardly approched me anymore and majority of female friends and acquaintances wouldn't talk to me and worse, some of them gave me the glares of disgust because they saw me raised my voice and fought others. I no longer get ridiculed but in return some people started to hate me.

So is it normal to believe that being a people pleaser and standing up for yourself have their own pros and cons?

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  • Tealights

    I was also taken advantage of, had bad friends, stayed in bad relationships too long because I didn't want to hurt the guy's feelings, and more. Life is better now, no worries, but I'll share how I overcame it.

    I learned to read people better. Psychology helped me a lot, because I use to wholeheartedly believed in the "Golden Rule," and nothing else, but then I become shocked that no matter how helping I am to those I care about and love seeing them smile; when I need help they vanished or tell me to help myself. This came from "friends", some family, exes, etc. Later I became bitter to the point when fake friends tells me, "You're such a nice person, you're special/a unicorn/etc," I'll snap back with, "Yeah, but how come I don't have anyone willing to do the same for me?" They just go quiet and leave.

    When I started diving deep into the mystery of people's behaviors, I started to pick up on traits, body language, hidden speech, and more when I meet people. It's amazing how bad people share A LOT of the same traits and habits. For example:

    1. Bad people have this air of superiority and pretentiousness, which makes them unable to respect your ideas or perspective because you're simply too nice/innocent/pure/naive/etc in their eyes. You're automatically labeled as inexperienced and stupid because you care about those around you.

    2. Bad people always think they got you pegged, and assume so much of your personality without even trying to truly get to know you. Ever did something you normally do, and had some asshole go, "Oh... I thought you did this and that. Well, that's surprising."

    3. Bad people are horribly opportunistic. Good people do things for others because it feels right to them, and expect no reward. Assholes do things to benefit themselves in some way. So we're constantly being persuaded or manipulated into something they disguised to be good for us.

    These are just a few, but you get it. It's all about reading the true meaning of things and being firm on your decisions in your own way. For me, I hate getting angry, so being firm in an aggressive way didn't work due to it leading to arguments. Since I'm female, I've calculated based on all my interactions that most of my troubles will be from male encounters. What do I know about men who make trouble for me? They think I'm stupid for both being a woman and being too nice. So... to counter people like this, I play stupid to the point they can't handle it and leave me alone; because how can they get mad at an "innocent, naive" woman for not understanding their nasty advances or pushy behavior. What am I losing for them walking away? Nothing. What do I gain? Peace of mind. Thanks to psychology, I know who to avoid and how to avoid them peacefully in my own way.

    By the way, you don't have to play dumb like I do. It just works for me because I hate fighting and rather talk my way out of things peacefully. It's just something that I do well. Discover your way of doing things.

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  • There’s definitely pros and cons. I’ve always been more of a nice person who sees good in people and loves helping others. I’ve gotten taken advantage of a lot by fake cunts. Now I have very few friends that I trust and am happy that way. I love being myself and being the personality I am but I’ve definitely brought out more bitchy side more times gone on. Which isn’t always amazing.

    I’ve stuck up for myself on occasions that I’ve been pushed in to in order see me snap. When I do tell people off they act all scared of me.

    I’m a super giving person, making people happy makes me happy. Tho I don’t change myself and don’t care to I still do stick up for myself and tell people off. I’m nice to people but someone pisses me off I don’t take it. I may not know super well how to control my anger cause it takes a lot to truly piss me off so it don’t happen often enough but mainly what I’m getting at is I’m still nice in general but doesn’t mean I’m easy to take advantage of. I may sometimes get pissed off at someone 20 minutes to late tho. I do see pros and cons of both sides. Sometimes I wish my vibe wasn’t so short cute lil welcoming quiet girl but whatever I’ll live with it. Feel bad for the next bitch to try and fuck with me thinking I’m easy tho. Cause ik Ima take that shit to far. I give 0 shits on peoples opinion if I care for someone I show it and if I dislike someone I make it obvious. I’m not easy at reading people but when I see fake in someone I drop them the amount of “friends” I’ve ghosted in my life is ridiculous but I usually will like someone till I got a problem with them.

    What you describe you come off as in the first paragraph is the vibe I always give apparently. I wouldn’t give up my niceness and learn to change myself to be a 24/7 bitch. Idk how to change my personality anyway but I’m happy being me I can still be a cunt to someone if they deserve it tho. Sticking up for myself may not look like it’s in my comfort zone but that won’t stop me. If anything I’ve learned to not take shit and see fake in people. But I’m still myself. You can be a sweet person but a bitch at times too. I’ve learned I can still do what my personality is like and enjoy being my normal self but I’m still a bitch at times when needed. I’m a nice bitch.

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    • Some parts of your comment are just relatable but yes! I agree on being a nice bitch like you called it and that's what I am currently doing and it seems like the best choice to be too at this point. It feels horrible to argue with people though. I hate fighting by any means. The thought of knowing someone will hate you for opposing is not a fun experience but we have our own dignity and self-worth too so fuck whoever those present or future assholes that screwed others' self-worth. We've the right to stand up for ourselves.

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      • Yeah I hate arguing with people too. I try to avoid it but when directed at me I can only take some much till I lose it. I’ve been learning to let myself say something in the beginning to stop it ahead of time hopefully get better at controlling the anger rather than all at once and acting like a psycho.

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        • mia500

          Yeah, avoid losing your cool. Remember, even if you do have to say something to snap back, don’t spaz out or get angry because that’s usually exactly what they want.

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          • I usually will say something back but in a calm way. I don’t get all crazy. I may sometimes take it to far tho but I don’t act crazy or super angry. I haven’t been put in this type of situation to much either.

            I’ve had people start shit with me to see my reaction and they have pushed me to the edge then I end up scaring them when I do get pissed off at them and tell them off. Then they stop trying to piss me off 😂 I mean I don’t wanna take things to far but when I have it wasn’t always the worst thing. I regret it but will they piss me off again to see how I am? Prolly not.

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  • mia500

    I’m struggling with this so much! It almost gives me a “confused” feeling, like wow the world is so mean. I’m naturally extremely friendly at events, work, etc. but I notice people take that as a weakness. But I can get down on their level and be just as nasty and it usually surprises them.

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  • dimwitted

    Isn't there a middle ground?

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    • As in being moderately nice while still standing for myself? Currently working on it. Trying to get rid of people pleasing attitude for 100%.

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  • WashYaDoggy

    Maybe them fucking with you is in your head. Maybe you are getting paranoid and have a schizoaffective disorder or bi polar and now you are just burning bridges and up setting people because YOU believe everyone is out to get you.

    Just a thought to consider, usually nice people get treated nicely. I would feel guilty screwing over a nice hearted person, I mean a REAL nice person.

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    • I don't think I was just paranoid or have any of those syndromes when the two assholes called me a dumbass for trying to help others in front of 30+ people and all attentions went to us. They treated me like I was a submissive creature that deserved to be humiliated whenever they wanted because I never fought back.

      Also, the assholes that borrowed my money and promised to pay back only to see they pretended to forget their debts and never apologized for it.

      Some of the assholes made fun of my voice. Also, this one asshole who dismissed me and not allowing me to walk with him and his other friend while making faces of disgust and told me I wasn't cool enough to walk with them and proceeded to leave me alone just like that. Those examples were just a few.

      Would you diagnose yourself with those if you went through the same thing as mine?

      It's nice that you don't have it in you to hurt nice people but these assholes do exist to screw things up and never feel guilty with their despicable actions. As much as a people pleaser that agreed on anything people said and never had guts to fight back before, my kindness towards them were indeed genuine and would always tried to do my best to help those I considered friends.

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      • WashYaDoggy

        Ok fair enough. Its just that there are people that imagine people do not like them. I see these pricks are clearly being dicks to you.

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