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I was with someone I know in my car and this person had a panic attack. I performend cpr on this person.
Is it normal if I think this person faked panic attack to get a cpr from me?? I know that this person admired me.
What sort of retard are you performing CPR on someone who is a) conscious and more importantly b) fucking breathing anyway?
Do you even know what CPR is?
Mongtard story of the day.
Question... Are you even aware that a person having a panic attack isn't always hyperventilating? Sometimes the breathing is so shallow cpr is actually recommended. And no... They don't have to be conscious either. Why go ahead and make her look like a fool?
"Sometimes the breathing is so shallow cpr is actually recommended."
Give me proof of this.
CPR is for the heart... You're pushing on their chest to force the blood out of the heart if theirs isn't doing so. It's NOT for hyperventilation or shallow breathing.
So you're telling me you have required CPR for a panic attack? Why do I get the feeling you're just the OP trying to legitimise your own post?
Also interesting that your original reply said 'heart attack' (I get email notifications, which tell me the original post before edits). Confused between the two?
It's called an error. You know people make those? Or do you want evidence of that too? And why the heck would it matter who I am?
Charli, I didn't even imply I've had a panic attack. Cpr isn't just given to people that aren't breathing. The OP didn't say the person was conscious as far as her knowledge at the time went either when she administered cpr either.
It is appropriate in many cases where someone unconscious is having breathing difficulties. Normally if you were asleep and you found yourself suffocating or breathing uneasy, your brain will always automatically send the command to wake your body up for you to deal with it.
He doesn't have that privilege if he's fainted. Be that the case, his breathing needs a little encouragement.
What do you think panic attack is? Don't assume anything. I did not mention what kind of symptoms this person was having. Why do I have to explain that this person was not breathing what the fuck. you rtd.
I've had a panic attack. I know someone who has had several.
You do not give CPR to someone who is conscious. People who have panic attacks are hyperventilating. That is not the same as NOT BREATHING. You encourage them to breathe.
Please go do a first aid course. And ask them about this. And video it so we can laugh at them telling you you're wrong.
You are assuming AGAIN.
1st, you are assuming that I didnt take the first aid class.
2nd, I already told you that this person wasnt breathing. But you are still assuming that this person was hyperventilating.
"Wikipedia boy" huh.
Whats wrong with you?
why dont you fucking read what I wrote and understand as it is written?
I really dont underatand why you are talking about hyperventilation. Hyperventilation is just common symptom, but its not all the case.
Some people hyperventilate, some people fuckin go unconscious, somepeople fuckin stop breathing what the fuck
Then why do you not give the full story, idiot? So far you have three people calling you the idiot...if you actually gave proper details, then perhaps it would be different.
Now quit being a cunt, and swallow that big ol' pride for a second. What you wrote as it is written is precisely what I'm replying to.
What you said is inconsistent with having taken a first aid course. Additionally, you said you think they FAKED it - therefore they would have been breathing.
Wikipedia did happen to have a reasonable description of this occurrence, yes. Unlike you.
I'm not male.
They faked a panic attack AND they weren't breathing? Are you suggesting they were holding their breath?
I used to know an older fella, who'd find a group of young girls and fake a heart attack, just to have the opportunity to cope a feel while those girls were trying to get him to a hospital.
So, you know. You never know.
Why the hell would you give CPR for a panic attack? If your panicking you are clearly conscious. Just imagine giving CPR to a person that's flailing around and screaming through hyperventilation.
This is so dumb I clicked "approve" just because I want to see what other people have to say.
The first step of CPR is to check if they're breathing.
If you checked, it would have been blatantly obvious if they were faking.
You fail CPR.
Third step, actually.
First is assess surroundings for danger. Second is check for consciousness/a response. Third is check for breathing - they no longer tell you to check for a pulse as it just wastes time.
Either way though, they do fail CPR.
With your type of mentality, I see how you could leave someone for dead thinking that they were faking.
I don't get most people here. Does everyone assume having a panic attack involves someone failing about and breathing like he's running out of oxygen? Sure it's the most common but really?
WTF you guys don't know about panic attack. Not every panic attack is the same. Some people can die from breathing problem like this person.
"While the various symptoms of a panic attack may cause the person to feel that their body is failing, it is in fact protecting itself from harm. The various symptoms of a panic attack can be understood as follows. First, there is frequently (but not always) the sudden onset of fear with little provoking stimulus. This leads to a release of adrenaline (epinephrine) which brings about the so-called fight-or-flight response wherein the person's body prepares for strenuous physical activity. This leads to an increased heart rate (tachycardia), rapid breathing (hyperventilation) which may be perceived as shortness of breath (dyspnea), and sweating (which increases grip and aids heat loss). Because strenuous activity rarely ensues, the hyperventilation leads to a drop in carbon dioxide levels in the lungs and then in the blood. This leads to shifts in blood pH (respiratory alkalosis or hypocapnia), which in turn can lead to many other symptoms, such as tingling or numbness, dizziness, burning and lightheadedness. Moreover, the release of adrenaline during a panic attack causes vasoconstriction resulting in slightly less blood flow to the head which causes dizziness and lightheadedness. A panic attack can cause blood sugar to be drawn away from the brain and towards the major muscles. It is also possible for the person experiencing such an attack to feel as though they are unable to catch their breath, and they begin to take deeper breaths, which also acts to decrease carbon dioxide levels in the blood."
-- Wikipedia
"Suggestions on how to cope with a panic attack include:
* Avoid ‘self-talk’ that focuses your attention on your symptoms – don’t tell yourself ‘Stop panicking!’ or ‘Relax!’
* Remind yourself that the symptoms of a panic attack are uncomfortable, but not life threatening. Reassure yourself that you’ve felt these feelings before and nothing bad happened to you.
* Focus your attention on something outside your own body and symptoms. For example, distract yourself by counting backwards in threes from 100, recall the words from a favourite song or concentrate on the sights and sounds around you.
* Fleeing from the situation will only reinforce the perception that your panic attacks are unbearable. If you sit and allow the symptoms to pass, you gain confidence in your ability to cope. "
-- Better Health, Victoria
There's a reason Wikipedia isn't recommend as a source of information by institutions you know. This being one of them..
Your whole argument is "Derp don't use Wikipedia herp derp"?
1. I listed another non wiki source. I guess you're going to ignore that.
2. It is correct information, if you bother to check other sites.
3. My argument was actually based on information from medical professionals. What's yours based on? What, in fact, is your information other than "you're wrong"?
Come up with an actual reply and then we'll talk.
Kindly show me exactly where I said you're wrong hot stuff... Go on. Twist my words too. I'm waiting.
"There's a reason Wikipedia isn't recommend as a source of information by institutions you know. This being one of them.. "
How is this not suggesting I am giving incorrect information and am wrong?
"I don't get most people here. Does everyone assume having a panic attack involves someone failing about and breathing like he's running out of oxygen? Sure it's the most common but really?"
It's the most common - and also the only thing stated by the OP is that their friend had a panic attack and at no point do they mention the little detail that they were unconscious or not breathing.
I fail to see how I twist your words, but go ahead and believe what you want.
Chill out a bit. We're not arguing with the actual legitimacy of your argument or your sources. Just that the info you provided and it's relevancy to the OP's scenario is questionable. You seem so convinced that since the symptoms and solution she described aren't mentioned, she's lying. You might wanna consider that what you posted there is after all just a summary. That's just me saying. I'm not sure how familiar galleon's experience with medics is. Try not to spit fire to quickly. Nobody actually took a jab at you. That was a general comment.
Ikr? Copy and and paste text off Wikipedia and someone thinks they got a solid argument. Really baffles me.
I have had panic attacks before. Even though it feels like you are dying, I have never heard or read about someone dying from a true panic attack. You dont die from a panic attack.