Is it normal that i punched a mentally disabled person in the face?

My teenage sister and I were at a fast food place, she got up to get some ketchup from the counter, and out of nowhere this huge dude lifts her up and then starts grabbing her chest. She starts screaming, and I immediately run up and punch this dude. A nurse then tells me he was autistic and wandered away from the group. She also tells me that I'm fcuked up in the head. The cops were called and one of the officers told me I should of checked if he was autistic first before doing anything. I almost got fired from work because my boss couldn't get passed the whole punched a mentally disabled person thing. Is what I did wrong? I'm starting to think it was. I did not know the person I hit had mental problems. My first instinct was to defend my sister. She refuses to go anywhere now because of what happened to her.

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  • coffeebreath

    Right, like you could have gone "Hi, before I punch you in the face for harrassing my sister, do you have a mental disability?"

    You only wanted to protect your sister, and I think you did the right thing.

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    • Crudhouse

      Intent is 9/10ths of the crime. If you didn't mean it, you haven't done much wrong. I'd be a little more careful next time though, 9/10ths isn't 100%

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    • ultralux

      Poppycock, this never happened.

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    • BLAh81

      This.

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    • RaNdOmPoPcOrN

      ikr! Fuck stupid laws

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  • kellstar79

    I have worked with mentally disabled people and I can tell you first off that it was the carers fault as that boy should not have been able to wander away from the group under any circumstances!! What if he had run onto the road and been hit by a car?!
    Secondly you did what any normal person would have done to protect your sister, there is no way you could have known he was autistic, he could have been trying to sexually molest her or cause her great harm. YOU DID NOTHING WRONG UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES YOU WERE FACED WITH. Sounds to me like the carer was trying to take blame off herself by allowing him to wander off. The police should have asked the carer how it was made possible for him to leave her sight. No one in their right mind would ask anyone if they have a disability before protecting their loved one. I would have done the exact same thing. Your sisters lucky you helped her. I say good job!

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  • I would have done the same and I'm female. You were looking out for your sibling and quite frankly, if the carer knew that this guy she was looking after did things like that, she should of been doing her job properly.

    She fucked up, not you.

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    • donky3

      I have worked with mentally disabled people and I can tell you first off that it was the carers fault as that boy should not have been able to wander away from the group under any circumstances!! What if he had run onto the road and been hit by a car?!
      Secondly you did what any normal person would have done to protect your sister, there is no way you could have known he was autistic, he could have been trying to sexually molest her or cause her great harm. YOU DID NOTHING WRONG UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES YOU WERE FACED WITH. Sounds to me like the carer was trying to take blame off herself by allowing him to wander off. The police should have asked the carer how it was made possible for him to leave her sight. No one in their right mind would ask anyone if they have a disability before protecting their loved one. I would have done the exact same thing. Your sisters lucky you helped her. I say good job!

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  • aussiewolf

    he is probably treating people like how he is treated. mentally disabled people get sexually abused alot because their testimonies dont hold up in court.

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    • donky3

      I have worked with mentally disabled people and I can tell you first off that it was the carers fault as that boy should not have been able to wander away from the group under any circumstances!! What if he had run onto the road and been hit by a car?!
      Secondly you did what any normal person would have done to protect your sister, there is no way you could have known he was autistic, he could have been trying to sexually molest her or cause her great harm. YOU DID NOTHING WRONG UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES YOU WERE FACED WITH. Sounds to me like the carer was trying to take blame off herself by allowing him to wander off. The police should have asked the carer how it was made possible for him to leave her sight. No one in their right mind would ask anyone if they have a disability before protecting their loved one. I would have done the exact same thing. Your sisters lucky you helped her. I say good job!

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  • ineida

    You're an awesome brother! I agree that the nurse is to blame for the assault.

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  • zchristian

    I have autism and even i think you did the right ting 1. You didnt know he was mentally disabled 2. You where protecting your sister.

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  • PumpkinKate

    You did nothing wrong, at all, period. Look at the overwhelming responses you are getting. You acted based on what your brain was doing in a split second whether you wanted it to or not - which was to protect your loved one.

    The woman likely reacted the way she did because a lot of people treat mentally handicapped people horribly, and she has seen it over and over again. In her poor judgement, she likely convinced herself that this situation was another scenario of abuse, instead of one where abuse was stopped.

    The cops and your boss likely reacted the way THEY did because they are frightened of the sensitive nature of the incident. Unfortunately, it's all about not looking like the insensitive bad guy. Ironically, this further propagates discrimination against mentally handicapped people in that it is discrimination in its own right.

    Now that I've been all flowery with my words... time for my opinion! Yay! You're a hero and a badass brother. I wish I had one like you! Nobody should get to sexually assault your sister and you damn well should have slugged the guy, regardless. The woman who should have been watching her patient was a dipshit, and fuck the po-lice for getting all tangled in potential red tape in an effort to not look bad. Shallow.

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  • I think your boss must have a mental dissorder if that was his reaction to you defending your sister when you had no idea they were mentally disabled.

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  • Dmetal

    Yeah, right thing. You should have destroyed him, however, and the bitch who gave you lip. Fuck her too.

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  • blackalica

    Imagine this if you will: A mentally "slow" person in a wheel chair unable to speak going to school, so slow, they learn nothing. they are helped by teachers on tests by them writing the answers on the test sheet for them letting them pass highschool. At the end of all this, they don't even know what happened, they obviously can't go to college, can't get a job, can't even move out of there parents house. would you like to live that hell? that hell of stupidity, that hell of basically a waste of space and even if you try to reason all you want that's what that person is- a waste of life.......? In this case, if you know the kid would come out this "slow"....abort it. They won't become president, they won't contribute to the gene pool, and they certainly will NOT live a real life. It's the right thing to do even though how diabolical it sounds. Just to be coherent, I'm only speaking of severe cases, i know some cases where there are mildly mental adults teaching classes in middle, and high schools and there quite professional.

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  • BigScaryRooster

    Thanks for the responses. It's good to know I did the right thing.

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  • Angel_in_a_Glass_Dress

    "A nurse then tells me he was autistic and wandered away from the group"

    If she was in charge of him then SHE needs to keep aware of what he is doing.

    Just because he's mentally handicapped does not mean girls have to stand there submissively while he grabs their tits.

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  • Faceless

    Visualizing that made my day. Made my year even. Thats just fuckin awesome.

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  • Trunko28

    You did the right thing. Absolutely the right thing. It doesn't matter if he was autistic. If someone harasses a family member, it is COMPLETELY reasonable to sucker punch them.

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  • KnightOfChivalry

    I'm a very elderly man who is very physically disabled and if I dare attacked a girl or a woman for any reason. (Even if she hit me first) I would feel very bad about it, and wouldn't blame any guy who tried to punch me for dare doing it!

    That autistic kid is a spoiled rotten little shit who has never been raised right, and has never been spanked by his parents when he needed it! or else he wouldn't dare treat women that way!

    and if he ever did that to a woman back in MY DAYS!

    he would have not only been charged for assault, he would also been put on the rack, flogged in public and banished from the whole country!

    back in my days, men who dare raped or assaulted women were treated like chattel and they had no rights!

    Women and wives were revered, taken care of and respected and any man who tried to assault them or even touch them was arrested and put to death!

    handicapped men who assaulted women were also horse whipped by other men and they were also shot, maimed and beat up!

    those police men, that boss and that fucking caregiver need to seek some fucking help! that handicapped autistic boy who attacked your sister should be arrested, flogged locked up and put in federal prison for the rest of his life! those police men should be reported to their superiors for what they dare said to you! that boss of yours who got mad at you for what you did should have his whole company shut down and should also face a lawsuit and that caregiver who got mad at you for hitting her handicapped boy friend should be fired and sent to a mental institution for acting like a little one sided freak!

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  • jakjok

    read this..very very closely.
    commit it to memory.

    you-
    are a human. with boundarys and rational and(hopefully) a proud member of our species that has endured so much hardship from all walks of life and situations

    that guy-
    is an out of control mentally disabled person who we are made to waste our tax dollars on, giving a solitary and miserable addicted and murky life to someone who couldn't make it out of bed on his own. I mean a little uniqueness, a little stranegeness is okay, were all god children and if your born with four arms, two heads, conjointed and your ok with it, cool!

    you-

    you are not part of the borg. you are not part of the hive, you are not someones thing be pushed around or some retards property that they can yell at/touch/ take from at any given time. you are not some fugitive from the cops who should all be hanged anyway for beating old womens heads into the cement, their ''accidental'' shooting sprees that leave some poor mothers child dead and they get paid vacation- some creepy lunatic groped your sister and you punched a person who was not born with all the wiring straight in his head. is that YOUR fault? NOO. yet somehow some genius lady who has decided to devote her entire life to the deformed now thinks and expects everyone to think that they are more important, SO much more important than you or your needs or situation retards can do whatever they want.

    wrong.

    ..but since were an addictive race, and the borg-bits are infectious but not untreatable, you probably do feel some confusing guilt over something that you know in your head is in fact, not your fault. am I right? you should train yourself to let go of these feelings because they aren't healthy- they are the borgs cerebral commands and you have to unhook yourself from them or people walk all over you

    that guy-
    is defended and looked after a little too much of his adult life by a gnarled person.
    an odious, redneck rotten wench or fat balding guy, all of which who think they know they world but in actuality by the age of 30, are stupider than the people they look after(and if they aren't graying, bent and twisted yet, trust me. they WILL be sooner or later)
    lets not think for a second that because hes rogue inside the brain that this creepy foul smelling guy can run up and grab the breasts of whoever he wants, or that this haggle mouth lady has the right to pretend what just happened is somehow your fault(he cant, and its not)
    lets forget all that in fact-

    he..
    GRABBED
    your sisters
    TITS.
    not lightly-
    FIRMLY GRABBED them like this-''hey, see my chest??this is MY chest!!!HAH!''

    he did that. did it with a smile, so that when out of all these other people plugged into the matrix and addicted to whatever out of their minds in their feeble lives one person rushed and punched someone who needed to be chained down while he ate, some black toothed crone opened her decaying mouth and the pigs were called-
    showing that the others thought exactly what she was saying was right because twisted thought processes like..THAT are infectious, dangerously and needing a great deal of quarantine.

    do you know what anyone deserves regardless who runs up and grabs your sister?
    they need punching or at minimum a good push away that sends them spinning.
    I didn't do this when a big demented gorilla attempted close to the same thing years ago. I regret not spitting in his face/backhanding him/SOMETHING each, and every waking day. you should feel proud you have the will power to take action, NOT feel wrong because some hag is logically being flushed in the toilet u-bend as of her own personal choice

    you-

    I don't know why you or her didn't speak up more and tell that cop-''..hey I don't think you heard me asshole.
    that guy-grabbed, my-sis-ter. it was not the punch- THAT DOES THAT! do you know what im gonna do now?? people get arrested for less when it comes to touching girls at school- im SUEING him for sexual harassment and abuse! or that old lady! its ONE of their faults! would you like it If I ran to your house now and grabbed your WIFES body?? that's what I thought.''

    but you should have.

    either that or split because people like him and her are dangerous.

    id recommend looking out for that guy, getting his name, his address, sueing him or his wretched caretaker slave-lady because shes supposed to keep him from doing this stuff which she DIDNT.
    that's a fact.
    your sister is now traumatized for the time being for life-go after that guy for damaging sexual abuse,
    because what you did was self defense when nobody did anything to protect your sister from harm , and you had to do it. you HAD to knock him away and at the very least leave him with a stinging memory NOT to do that EVER!!! again. its for his own health and benefit besides.
    do you have any idea what bigger, MEANER people would do to him? they likely would have broke something of his after repeated kicks punches and bone crunching blows.

    the longer you wait on doing this-
    the worse it becomes.
    I KNOW. trust me, ive known my whole life.

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  • JTravers1995

    Wasn't your fault mate to be honest you did the right thing in that awkward moment, by the way I have mild autism and if I did anything like that then got punched in the face I wouldn't do it again... which is a good thing LOL u taught him a life lesson :D

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  • yourmothersir

    who gives a shit if this guy has autism. If some dude grabs and starts groping my sister I'm going to beat the hell out of him. Fuck what his handler and the cops say. He molested your sister and it's still sexual abuse. What would the cops have said if he had raped her? He's clearly dangerous and if they can't manage to keep him on a short leash he should be locked up.

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  • rabbitheart4321

    what if you hadn't helped your sister? Surely that experience would mess her up more than being punched messed the disabled guy up?

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  • jadepoet

    Simple answer, no you did nothing wrong, here is how you can test this morally in your head. go back to that moment in time. in this scenario you know the kid is handicapped how do you act different. and here is what i suspect. you do not. yes he might be at a mental disadvantage but. fact of the matter is, he sexually assaulted your sister. you are a good brother and had every right to do that and more.

    Disclaimer: i do not hate the handicapped i do not condone violence against them.

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  • t33h33

    of course it's normal. If someone starts grabbing someone u care about it's a natural reaction. If that weirdo is that sick then he shouldn't be in public places. Hope you hit him hard. Probably won't do it again...

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  • ThatUglyDoll

    I am sorry this happened to you and your sister. It is the caregivers fault that the young man got away from the group. And i think some of the above comments are not relative to what happened to you. You were just acting on instincts. I probably would have reacted the same way.

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  • nestnestnestalex

    will you should do that to him. it is you way of self defence. just be happy that guy is gone.

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  • kellstar79

    Lufa, do you have a physical or genetic disease yourself?

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  • kellstar79

    Maybe we should abort judgmental people with attitudes and beliefs such as yourself. Then maybe the world wouldn't be full of hatred and discrimination. You really can't be serious?!? This is about someone whose sister was attacked and is suffering trauma from it and the OP was asking if he did the right thing. What have the japs and nazis (in your words) got to do with any of this? I suggest you post your own question and let the OP get comments that actually would be of help to him

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  • heywhatsgoingon

    hey dude, i wouldnt worry about it man how were you to know? not being funny but its sort of a case of discrimination just because he is autistic does not give him the excuse to get away with sexually assaulting your sister if anything it should of been him in trouble with the police...

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  • alv1592

    You were in protective mode and did it on impulse, it's normal and not a bad thing. It's good that you stood up for her.

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  • ThatKidTotallyRocks

    You were being a great brother. You did absolutely nothing wrong at all. Those other people who intervened have the problems. They should have been watching their group properly.

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  • Lynxikat

    You had no idea that he was autistic. You're first instinct was to protect your sister, and I think that's awesome. You didn't do anything wrong, man.

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  • FinallyLivingLife

    Punch that m f'er in the face!! If someone is doing what he did to your sister, you don't have time to play 20 questions. You did the right thing.

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  • Shaung1

    Well its not your fault you didnt know he suffered from mental illnes but if you knew then no you shouldnt

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  • Funone1

    Who says shiverlry is dead. Honour Honour! For princess and country!

    You may think I'm being sarcastic, well im not. It is never wrong to defend a woman's Honour.

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    • PumpkinKate

      "Shiverlry" is probably the worst thing my eyes have ever witnessed :(

      I hate being a grammar Nazi, but DAMN.

      "Chivalry"

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      • tomga1

        Grammar whipped!

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      • lufa

        lol

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  • Listen to me very carefully: You did absolutely NOTHING wrong. I would've done the exact same thing, and I would not be sorry in the slightest.

    REGARDLESS of whether or not the guy was a retard, he's lucky you didn't break his f***ing arms. I can imagine that I very well might have.

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  • lufa

    Retards are an eyesore and they take up valuable space-it is better that they are aborted at birth than allowed to grow up. They are a deficit not a benefit to society.

    They exist because of leftist and Christian stupidity which thinks it is 'morally right' not to abort defective humans.

    You did the right thing-sadly it'll take a while for your sister to get over that traumatic event because of this useless freak of nature.

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    • hundredthousand

      You are a horrible person.

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      • randomperson1000000

        everyone's entitled to their opinion, regardless of how extreme it is. maybe there's a reason behind lufa's thoughts about the disabled

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    • Its_Called_Love

      I disagree with pretty much everything you said, except that his sister is no doubt tramatized by this and I feel very sorry she has to go through this. I'd sue whatever hospital or home the guy wandered away from, for the mental distress they caused her.

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      • lufa

        I think you'd agree with me if you were unfortunate enough to be born with physical diseases.

        You seem to think the worst thing that can happen to someone is death-when in fact, the worst thing possible is living a tortured existence because of being born with genetic diseases which have no cure.

        Terminating such pregnancies are an act of kindness, because we have the wisdom to know such a life is not worth living.

        Can you honestly say that you'd want to be mentally or physically disabled for 70 years of your life? What kind of an existence is that?

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        • Its_Called_Love

          I actually have many friends with phyical disabilities, including cerebral palsy. And you're being incredibly ignorant if you actually believe they don't deserve a chance to grow up and make their own decisions and find their own happiness. No one should be able to deem if someone else's live is worth enough to keep them around.

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        • Agreed.

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    • CarsGirlsGunsMoneyMade

      Yeah, and you're on the other end of the spectrum. Sociopath. Better for a late-term, I say.

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    • charli.m

      Your comments make you sound like a pretty defective person. Should you have been aborted? Sure, we don't have tests in pregnancy to determine if the fetus is a potential arsehole, but hey.

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      • lufa

        If I had mental/physical handicaps you bet I would've liked to have been aborted-even after being born.

        I'd also rather be an 'asshole' than a mindless simpleton who bows to the wishes of a weirdo like you that thinks a world full of retards is a great place to be.

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        • InvadingPotatoLeader

          I agree, the life they lead is sad and people have to take care of them their whole life.
          They contribute nothing to society and they are unable to live their lives the way they want it, though sometimes they can't even think what kind of life they want.
          I'm talking about mental handicaps though, some people can live (on their own) with physical handicaps.
          I wouldn't want to live with mental handicaps anyway, I couldn't do anything with my life and could barely do anything on my own, it's not an existance worth living, in my opinion.

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          • lufa

            Thank you, that's what I've been pretty much saying all along-though I admit I was crass in the beginning and probably didn't win converts to my message with that approach-but sometimes it's just more fun to be rhetorical than straight.

            It's hard enough taking care of oneself and a family-let alone someone who's mentally or physically ill (genetically). I'm not including those who get injuries or develop mental disorders-that's normal and to be expected.

            I don't want to be a burden on anyone and don't want anyone to be a burden on me or society.

            We should be thinking about refining our species. For instance, people who are rapists and murders should be sterilized so they can't pass on their evil genes.

            I'm not for eugenics, but the fact that we hear of sickos kidnapping and raping women and kids means there's something wrong and we need to be proactive about wiping out predators who prey on others.

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            • Crudhouse

              Yes...that's exactly what you are

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  • Just admit it and come clean already, you made up the part about what happened to your sister and you just wanted to punch a retard in the face. I admit it is tempting, especially when you see them running around yelling and throwing things.

    But still its not right.

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    • donky3

      What the fuck is wrong with people? Why can't things be resolved without instantaneous judgement and violence (regardless of people's mental condition)? Why does everyone here think it's okay to hit strangers? How does that make anything better?

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      • What the fuck is wrong with people? Why can't things be resolved without instantaneous judgement and violence (regardless of people's mental condition)? Why does everyone here think it's okay to hit strangers? How does that make anything better?

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        • donky3

          Just admit it and come clean already, you made up the part about what happened to your sister and you just wanted to punch a retard in the face. I admit it is tempting, especially when you see them running around yelling and throwing things.

          But still its not right.

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          • He has not been abducted, I think he is having a paychotic breakdown of some sort. Aliens do not exist and they do not go around the place abducting people to experiment on them. It is just humans. When something like that really happens. Humans wearing custom swimsuits and doing weird shit using the excuse of aliens,they can't use god as an excuse because there is evidence of their doings, to get away with crimes. Since it is not likely your brother stumbled into one of these guys, I'd go for the most reasonable explanation. He is tripping. Could have been taking some acid or something, or he is just coming down with schizophrenia. Or someone played some cruel prank on him, he could not find an explanation for,whatever he witnessed, so he created this delusion about aliens to give some sense to the whole thing. Rather than blaming thin air because whoever is responsible,made sure he would not get caught. So he overwritten the real memory with a made up tale about aliens. Which,seems to make perfect sense to him. This way, no investigations can be started to figure out what really happened to him, he does not even feel the need to shed light over it,because no matter what believing in something like that makes you feel like you are a part of this big thing and you are some sort of superhero choosen for whatever sort of divine purpose to carry out whatever insane mission. But really, it is just him, tripping away. And these people, making fun of him behind his back

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            • donky3

              Nah you people are fascists for allowing the suffering of others.

              If you don't abort a person with diseases and defects it is exactly as if you gave that person that disease and they have to suffer with it the rest of their lives.

              The fascists (nazis and japs) even Americans used to deliberately infect people with diseases.

              Because I support good health for all and the elimination of disease, then I'm the real humanitarian here.

              If I had the power to magically make you schizophrenic or mentally ill would you welcome that?

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  • hundredthousand

    What the fuck is wrong with people? Why can't things be resolved without instantaneous judgement and violence (regardless of people's mental condition)? Why does everyone here think it's okay to hit strangers? How does that make anything better?

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    • PumpkinKate

      When faced with crises situations it's not in human nature to just stop everything and attempt to approach the situation in a diplomatic manner.

      If someone is physically assaulting a loved one (yes, the mentally handicapped man was assaulting her by law, regardless of his condition) what you see is a loved one in danger, and you must react.

      It's not a matter of sitting there, thinking it over, and WILLFULLY going "You know what, upon deep consideration, I've decided to be a douche and will proceed to punch this guy in the face."

      We are programmed to react like this. It's part of the reason our species has survived for so long. We are social animals and we are driven to protect our "pack" so to speak. Gut reactions and instinct are not indicators of poor judgement or violent dispositions. They are indicators of being human.

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      • hundredthousand

        I wasn't strictly proscribing reaction. But why jump immediately to fists or (as the poster below me says: knocked the fuk out). Why can't the first reaction be to demand verbally that he puts her down, and the second reaction be to drag him off her?

        You imply that the reaction is spontaneous and in no way considered. I don't believe that. If it was true, the reaction would as likely be murderous (a knife in a throat, say). But people have enough self-control not to do that, so why not enough not to immediately for physical violence?

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        • Its_Called_Love

          You obviously don't have a younger sister then, and if you do, I feel sorry for her. I'm a girl and if a grown man groped her (15 years old), I'd lose my shit and see red. Maybe its different because I raised her so then is a little maternal inscint mixed in, but never the less. If it was your younger sibling, why would you want to let them in harms way any longer then you had to? And even though he did react quickly, his sister is now tramatized, how much worse would that have been if he just stood there trying to negotiate with the guy to let her go?

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          • hundredthousand

            People seem to be missing my point. Of course I'd try to stop the situation (even by forcefully removing the attacker from my sister). What I don't understand is instantaneous violence. If everybody thought like this, we'd be out committing manslaughter every day. People CAN control themselves and not kill others.

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            • Its_Called_Love

              He didn't kill him... He hit him. And sorry, but as a girl, maybe if perverts were punched more often, the world would actually be a little safer. I'm personally sick of men who think its okay to grab strange women and do what they want with them.

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            • PumpkinKate

              Must have missed the part where the OP wrote "So I murdered the guy instantaneously on the spot"

              My bad. I was under the mistaken impression the person sexually assaulting his sister got punched, a relatively non-lethal method with plenty of stopping power that's a normal reaction.

              I guess murder was a bit extreme... ~sarcasm~

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    • Satchmo

      Fuck you your an idiot the autistic man inititiated the violence what the op did was in self defense if your a woman how would u feel if you were being forcibly groped by someone much stronger than you you are so politically correct I want to vomit on you. Retards are strong. Guerillas are really strong so if you see a retarded guerilla run for your life

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    • lufa

      Sometimes immediate reaction is called for.

      If you saw a blind person about to get hit by a car you're noting to going to calmly explain to him what is about to transpire, you will violently pull him out of the way so he doesn't get hit.

      Retard or not, if any scumbag ever puts a finger on any of my family members then it's already way past diplomacy, he is going to get knocked the fuk out.

      and you're an idiot not to realize that the retard assaulted her. The brother was right to intervene as he did.

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