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Is homosexuality actually increasing in society, or is it just that people are more open about being gay?
There was this study I saw that showed the increase of homosexuals per generation and yes it isnt only increasing but doubling and tripling every generation. They like to use the mental gymnast arguement of basically "before people were indoctrinated into being straight but people who are gay are born gay."
So encouraging people to be themselves because they’re loved and supported no matter what is indoctrination but assaulting and killing people isn’t?
It’s actually increasing in frequency, not just due to people being more open about it. We know this because as society becomes more accepting, boomers aren’t coming out of the closet at any higher rates. Only young people are getting gayer.
Also the mean published heritability estimate for sexual orientation is pretty low. Sexual orientation is less “natural” and genetic than homophobia.
Boomers aren't coming out of the closet at higher rates because a lot of gay people don't make it to that age.
But if they're not out, they do make it to that age.. and they still haven't come out. Half their friends and family are dead and they're retired, so they also don't need to fear consequences.
What makes you think gay people who stay in the closet would make it to that age at the same rate as straight people? People living like that…probably aren’t very happy. Much higher rates of depression, drug use, overdoses, suicide.
Similar rates as younger lgbt community.
Where did you get that claim from? I'm interested in reading where the stance came from that most gay people commit suicide or are killed before they reach that age.
If it wasnt indoctrination and was just about society being more accepting wouldnt you see boomers coming out as gay too? How are the boomers less gay?
That’s what I meant, yes
It's a mix of both. For some reason a lot of zoomers think it's cool to pretend to be LGB. Look at lesbian communities, it's been overtaken by trannies in their LARP phase (people who have male genitalia mind you.) Obviously, you can't be in a lesbian relationship if you have a dick, but here we are, gay men or straight couples pretending to be lesbian.
Bisexual? It's easy for a straight person to claim they're bisexual for oppression points.
wow this is just... transphobic
yea considering the fact that i'm trans
Hey, the question was about people LARPing as homosexual, so I answered about that. Don't dismiss me as the "transphobe" when I'm bringing up the problems that occur when these deviants infiltrate LGB. Trannies talk about the "cotton ceiling" (lesbians who won't have sex with them), effectively reinforcing corrective rape. So if you call me transphobe, I'll just call you "homophobic" because apparently you don't see the issue with this.
you're legitimately calling us slurs idk how i can't call you a transphobe when you actively call us slurs???
yes, men pretending to be women should not be in lesbian spaces. no, trans women are not that (btw i'm not a trans woman, i'm a trans man, so idk anything abt lesbianism)
More people are open about it. In some of the teens open about it on social media it may be a trend though. Nowadays there is a lot of strangeness with for example straight couples where one or both of them identify as "non binary" or something else made up just so they can refer to themselves as a gay couple and seem cooler than they are.
People are just way too open about it nowadays. And on top of that, there are a lot of people identifying as gay because it's a trend.
They might identify as gay, but no boy will take it up the bum or suck dick because they think it’s trendy.
"And on top of that, there are a lot of people identifying as gay because it's a trend." If you notice, I said people are identifying as gay because it's a trend. I didn't say people that actually are gay are gay because it's a trend.
Is it trendy though? I wish it was trendy when I was 12 and the boys at my school starting calling me queer. Have things changed that much in 15 years? Maybe it has?
Yes, yes it is.
Alternative opinion: It's neither. It's not increasing, and it's also not being seen more.
It may seem like it's increasing, but remember that gay people have existed since the dawn of mankind. Due to the internet, people are exploring and expressing their sexuality more and earlier than before, but that tends to just lead to a lot of false positives*, and isn't evidence of an increasing trend.
(*By that, I mean that if you think you might be gay for whatever reason, and the people around you reinforce that idea with adamant support rather than letting you make your own decision, you're more likely to identify as gay [rather than going back and possibly being labeled as "closeted"]. For example, see the sudden spike in the transgender population.)
It may seem like we're seeing it more, but unless you're watching a gay pride parade or live in an area with a higher-than-average gay population, you're probably seeing most of your gays on the internet. Chances are, the number of gay people you're seeing in your day-to-day life, as a percentage of all of the people you see over the course of a given day, is about average with that of the greater population. Constantly hearing or reading about LGBT or inclusivity warps your perception into thinking it's more common than it actually is.
Combine that with the fact that, if you're like me, and you do see an LGBT person in real life, you tend to remember them more specifically because it's somewhat out of the ordinary.
Believe it or not its not just increasing its doubled in only a decade.
Btw I wasnt the one to downvote you
People are more open about it and the internet and social media makes us way more connected to each other.
There weren't more straight people in the past, there were just a lot more repressed gay people who hid that part of themselves.
Unfortunately that doesn't mean homophobia is gone. My niece is a lesbian and is being harassed at her middle school by a boy who sent her a death threat (a picture of someone pointing a gun at her saying, "kill all f*****ts") and the school said since it happened over the summer they couldn't do anything about it and put him in most of her classes. This is in Southern California, an area that's supposed to be super liberal.
People just feel safe to be open about it nowadays, which is good. Also the media want to make people think they're all inclusive, so they'll always make a character gay or trans, even though it'd be unrealistic since there just aren't that many gay people irl.
I think Incest can be the same way: I know a few personal people who have openly told me they are attracted to their Mom, Dad, Brother, Sister, Cousin: Whoever in their family?? I’m not one to judge them, that’s not what I’m here for. I just kind of told them: Maybe you should seek some counseling or help for that???
Something like half of gen Z believe that they’re mentally ill as well, and are under medication. Are half of young literally mentally ill? No, theyre just told they are / are encouraged to be.
Just fucking retardation of society. Used to be racism, bigotry and religion. Now its this
There is no way to know how many people were in the closet in the past. In the past, it was dangerous to be different. People don't kill the weird nearly as often as they once did because society, in general, no longer thinks it's acceptable to attack people for being different.
And I did read a study once that suggested that homosexuality is increasing as a form of mother nature's birth control. Although it's not fool proof.
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