Intense meditation and the tree. iin?!

Okay, whenever I see a tree, I think of tree hugging. I once hugged the tree, and it felt right. I'm not a hippie, but I do admire the passion. After I hugged the tree, I sat beneath it and started to meditate. I'd say about..... 5 minutes into the meditation, my mind was flashing the tree off and on I'd lose my focus for a second think, what a pretty world. Then my mind popped the image of the hippie I once picked up that was hitch hiking. Well when I got my reigns back on the here and now, I look up at the tree, and i noticed it was waving. Either from the wind, or my mind was playing games with me, but i noticed, I wasn't looking at the same tree I was sitting under earlier. I was sitting under a completely different tree. I was meditating for about an hour and a half that I remember. When I got up and looked around at my surroundings, i was in a field. I thought to myself, is this astral projection? Am i in some sort of astral plane? But as I sat back down to meditate a little more hoping to get my grip back on reality, I saw the original tree flashing in my head again. I open my eyes look up, and once again, the branch above my head is waving at me. I climb to the top of the tree, and fall out, when I got up, i was back under the original tree i was sitting under in my back yard, I notice the indent from my ass from sitting so long. I look around, and my sister comes out and says she couldn't find me anywhere. I told her I was here the entire time. She said she had just looked a minute before and i wasnt out there. so what I want to know is... where the hell was I????
Is this normal? (I don't do LSD, mushrooms, or smoke pot.)

Is It Normal?
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  • I've had some weird experiences with things like that; pauses in the day where the world seems to curve suddenly away from you and it's suddenly so simple.

    Brains are terribly terribly fickle, strange things. I can't even begin to explain this, but I can tell you that that is the type of odd mental behavior highly complex but perfectly normal brains are known to produce.

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  • Maybe she looked outside when you were in the tree, people have been known to have a sixth sense I am not saying you teleported but maybe you became so sure this was real (btw some background things there is this type of meditation that is so powerful I would be raining with a tornado and you would not notice, but with that power you must be careful an animal could be attacking you and in your astral plane you would get hurt by nothing and in a few cases people have never come out of the meditation) that your body will get up and try to find a land that looks like the land your in. His is very dangerous stuff but it helps the body so much I think you should continue to try it.

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  • Sites with the Tripitaka:

    http://sites.google.com/site/dharmadaana/tripitaka-pali-studies/english

    http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/index.html

    The link below is what you really need at the moment (might help with your current situation):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaNO09cPS6c&feature=share

    Some links on related topics:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj_i7YqDwJA&feature=share

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3oz9S84us4&feature=share

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWDiyGAOKk4&feature=share

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4gTXjg1g1s&feature=share

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VF93uYZFFgQ

    http://anmolmehta.com/blog/2007/01/25/silent-mind-meditation-the-sm-meditations-chapter-12/

    http://www.buddhanet.net/cbp1_f3.htm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Gk_Ddhr0M

    http://reluctant-messenger.com/reincarnation-buddha.htm

    http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/God_and_Religious_Toleration/What_is_God

    http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/God_and_Religious_Toleration/Afterlife

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CauF1rAHJfU&feature=share

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epictetus

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parmenides

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monadology

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7QwxbImhZI&feature=bf_next&list=ULYrtANPtnhyg&lf=mfu_in_order

    http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DfJiPTCtAPAY%26feature%3Dfvwrel&h=DAQHor0Y-AQGM2JZpXIzoXUrrwmVOtWVng3tTKv5Q5QGm7w

    http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DxFZrSPUoH3I&h=VAQFeWEEtAQHXduMpwYy-kiE9rElGYv40u1iVR1Gy_qKwSQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn85MTzy3Pg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7kixg7E3Pk

    Also...read up on Russian authors like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky (I think that's how his name is spelt). They paint a very clear picture of human emotion and interaction. War and Peace is the best and most honest book I have ever read (Tolstoy), and Crime and Punishment is also a very good book (Dostoyevsky).

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  • I've got a lot of links that I could put on here if you're interested on getting extra information on meditation and Buddhism. They're youtube links, but I suggest that you read up on some books. I used to read a huge amount (not just on Buddhism, but on other religions too for perspective). Never just rely on one source or one way of thinking, these days I'm doing some investigation into Islam, and I've learnt a LOT, though you need to spend a lot of time on deciphering religious texts or whenever you see people giving sermons since humans are fallible.

    Meditation is a powerfull tool and if you use it in the wrong manner you can get into a real fix. You'd be doing yourself a favor if you did a whole lot of research to get real insight into how it can be used and what things to keep away from. A good start would be the 'Tripitaka' which were the guidelines that are in Buddhism. This doesn't mean that you follow all of it, it means that you give it due thought so that your actions have the benefit of previously tested knowledge.

    Whatever you do, make sure that any text you read you do so with a skeptic mind. Think it out on your own and figure it out yourself. Any insight is insight that comes from within.

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  • I actually have meditated for 1.5 hours. You don't lose consciousness...you gain more awareness. None of that crap's ever happened to me when I meditate or any of the other people that I know.

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    • I meditate for 1.5 hours every time i meditate. I have been meditating everyday for 4 years. I never lost consciousness.. I believe i was deep inside my subcounscious. I lost touch with this form of reality, and gained insight, of what it is like to feel real peace.
      Or astral projection. I guess. It seemed different then that though. It was more controlled.

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      • I haven't been doing it every day, but I've meditated for aroudn 15 years. Did a concentrated bit for around three months six months ago and I meditated an hour to 3 hours every day (insight, concentration and compassion meditations) though I usually meditate only for 30-40 minutes usually. Peace and insight I gain every time I meditate (and most other serious meditators).

        The astral projection thing is interesting, care to describe it a little more? What type of meditation do you do? Any possibility of explaining how your mind works when you meditate?

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        • Oh surely, that is awesome to hear how long you have been meditating! I get insight here and there, but i have never had anything like this happen to me before. It was almost an awakening.
          The astral projection is a spiritual out of body experience, from what i grasped out of it. I haven't had a lot of situation like this but one tme in particular, it was as if i were being held down, I lost feeling in my body, and i felt myself drift out of my body and into what felt like just, space. A wide open area. What ever form it felt like i was in, i could see myself laying down, i could see many people working on what looked like a construction site. On top of that i could here multiple voices all jumbling together, as if there were hundreds of people. Until I 'woke up' so to speak.
          I do a lot of tantric meditation or zazen. I know I sound crazy, but I ,assure you i am very sane. Just some weird experiences. Hah I'm not sure what to make of them.

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          • I didn't know what zazen meant so I looked it up, and that's the 'insight' meditation that I mentioned in my previous post. It's interesting that you had that experience. The only similar things I can think of is that I know who's calling my phone or SMSing me before they do (sometimes), and if someone I have had emotional ties to thinks of me I can sometimes feel it, but then other people who don't meditate say that they feel those things too.

            I remember when I was in my mom's womb, and also before that, a spirit-like existence. That's as weird as it gets for me. Anyway, good luck with the meditation and always remember that you need to stick to the rules when meditating and keep your ego small, it can lead you to a lot of trouble especially when your concentration powers are much better than that of people around you.

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            • Your comment, really opened my eyes on something.
              My ego, has been getting in the way for months now. You pointing that out, turned a light bulb on in my head. Thank you very much crudhouse. I have now sought after diminishing my ego. If you have any tips, i am all ears.

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  • Damn, that disclaimer at the end definitely got me...

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