Is it normal that i got covid-19, despite being fully vaccinated?

I am fully vaccinated, yet I still got sick from Covid-19.

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Based on 23 votes (22 yes)
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  • Boojum

    I find it depressing that so many people lack a basic understanding of how vaccines work.

    When you got your Covid vaccine, your body didn't start to produce an invisible force field that repelled any Covid viruses that happened to waft your way on the beer-breath belched by some MAGA hat wearing idiot. If your immune system responded in the normal way (which doesn't always happen), it recognised the vaccine as something that did not belong in your bloodstream, began to produce antibodies, and stored the memory of what the invading particles "looked" like so it would be quickly noticed and promptly attacked from all sides if it appeared again.

    This means that it is entirely possible to catch Covid even if you've been fully vaccinated. Some people's immune system responds so aggressively that the viruses never replicate to the point where they notice the symptoms. With other people - and particularly with variants forms - the virus is able to sneak under the radar for a while before the immune system notices what's going on and attacks.

    What the statistics make absolutely clear is that, as a rule, the effect of the virus on those who have been double vaccinated is much less severe than it is for those who have not been vaccinated. In the UK at the moment, virtually everyone who's receiving ICU care due to Covid is either unvaccinated or vaccinated but also elderly or was suffering from serious health issues before they caught the virus.

    If the virus made you feel pretty shitty, you can be sure that you would have felt much worse if you hadn't primed your immune system to deal with it by getting the vaccine. And, as haunted mentions in their response, there's good evidence suggesting that you being vaccinated reduces the chances of you having to deal with the long-term problems that Covid is causing for very many people.

    Of course, you can't replay the last couple of years, refuse the vaccine and find out by experiment how bad you would have got when you caught the virus. And it's human nature to think that something that doesn't work perfectly is really pretty crap and worthless. But the fact is that it's entirely possible that if you hadn't been vaccinated, you could have ended up very seriously ill.

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  • olderdude-xx

    Yes, a fair number of people get another variant of Covid (D - or Delta - is the current biggest concern; L - Lima - is also popping up in certain parts of the world)

    The key thing is that your only likely to have a fairly mild case, and not require hospitalization unless your immune system is significantly challenged by other conditions you have.

    My wife works in a hospital (Part time) - which is currently full of Covid patients: Almost 100% were never vaccinated. The few who were either were undergoing cancer treatment or had multiple other major health issues.

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  • Billy247newaccount_35467829

    Because the vaccine don't really do shit. It isn't even really a vaccine.

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  • jodi1955

    every professional i talk to says you can still get the virus even if vaccinated, and the vaccine is not really a vaccine but gene therapy, look it up, it attaches itself to your dna and also lowers you immune system making you more likely to get sick.

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  • fuzzy_reader

    You can still contract Covid, but your symptoms will be minimal, unlike someone who isn't vaccinated, they are more likely going to need medical assistance or require hospital care...

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  • chuy

    The vacc wont stop you from getting it, it just makes it as if you do get sick you wont get really really sick..

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  • kelili

    The Delta variant is causing many deaths in Mauritius. Too many. The health care is no longing being able to follow. It has crashed. Babies, teenagers, people in their twenties are dying.

    Two moms died some days after giving birth to covid. It's really sad.

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  • 1WeirdGuy

    In July the british scientific advisor came out and said 40% of the people in ICUs are vaccinated (he actually said 60% but later said it was opposite because his graph was wrong). At this time 70% of the UK had already had their 2 shots. So yes you can definitely still get a bad case of covid even if you had your shots.

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    • Boojum

      My goodness. When Tucker Carlson slimed his way into your brain last summer, he welded your memory neurons firmly into place, didn't he?

      You've repeatedly cited these figures, so they're clearly firmly lodged in your head, even though you know perfectly fucking well that it's anti-vax BS.

      First, the figures were for British HOSPITALISATIONS, not patients in ICUs.

      Second, over half of the 40% of people who were HOSPITALISED with Covid after being vaccinated had only received one dose. A significant portion of those who had received double doses had received their second vaccination within a few days of them being admitted.

      If you were seriously interested in understanding what's really going on currently with regard to vaccinations and cases of Covid that are serious enough to require extreme intervention much closer to home than the UK, you could find this out from credible sources. But I'm sure you're well-shielded from facts by your Carlson Brain Armor™.

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      • dude_Jones

        Honestly, your counter argument here (which I agree with) is a bit mathematically flimsy. You need to reference Bayes Thereom of statistical inference which is what the Ph.D. researchers are expected to use in academic reviews. Basically, Bayes says the prior probability of being admitted to the hospital given that you have Covid symptoms and are fully vaccinated are likely different from the prior probability of already being in the hospital with Covid symptoms. The missing piece here is non-vaccinated people who have already gotten Covid and recovered without medical assistance.

        Your argument does make this inference; and certainly Bayes Theorem is beyond WeirdGuy's horizon of comprehension. The formula is P(A|B) = P(B|A) * P(A) / P(B)

        More information is available on Wikipedia.

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    • Ellenna

      Just for your information, recent figures in Victoria, Australia are that 95% of people in ICU because of COVID are UNVACCINATED.

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    • Meowypowers

      It is disingenuous to call a gene manipulater a vaccine. Polio vaccines are perfect, in that that disease is eradicated. These modern rna gene inhibitors are great, and I have taken one myself, but it is goofy to call it a vaccine, unless you're to change the definition of the word. They are very leaky but they essentially keep you from having massive problems with covid and are particularly benefitial for older adults and/or those with compromised immune systems.

      People are getting reinfected all the time, the "vaccines" are leaky af. Ideally one could be "vaccinated", catch covid and get the massively superior antibodies without the likely problems. We should be testing for antibodies if we care, not asking for a card to board a train and surendering freedom.

      Forcing anyone, particularly children, is a sick sick cash grab by multinational pharmaceutical corporations. Like I said if you care about safety, check peoples' antibody status, not their "vaccine" card. Find out who is actually immune, not who falls into line.

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  • kikilizzo

    Yeah the vaccine is not a cure mate. If it was it would be called "the covid-19 cure", not "the covid-19 vaccine".

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  • Tommythecaty

    Yeah the vaccine doesn’t stop it, just lessens the symptoms.

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  • Meowypowers

    You are the ideal before the holidays, alot of us wish we could actually catch covid after being vacinated and then become maximum antibodied, and most no risk.

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  • hauntedbysandwiches

    Yeah normal it only reduces the chance of getting it slightly but dramatically reduces how sick you get so if you aren't vaccinated you have a much higher risk of death or long haul Covid (Covid for a month or more)

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  • techpc

    Delta variant goes through vaccines, I think. Well, obviously it does, if you got it.

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  • normal-rebellious

    No it's not normal, you might have cancer, as sickness though normal is a bad condition. What you can do when you get the virus is play mobile games and I bloody well hope I get covid so mum can see how serious the situation is.

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  • raisinbran

    It’s normal. You permanently fucked up your immune system and will probably be dependent on pharmaceuticals the rest of your life.

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  • darefu

    Boojum lays it out pretty well, and I'm not an anti vaxer, however, my problem with the vaccine is that you do still get it and you can still spread it.

    The op along with many, many people think and were told at numerous times and think, because they're vaccinated they don't need to take precautions. So they go about thinking they are invincible. They get covid, they may not even know they have it, but there out their spreading it around.

    There are people who can't take the shot or it doesn't work for. Of course majority of those in the hospital or who get it bad are those unvaccinated. The anti-vaxers and the vaxers are both out there taking no precautions giving it to who ever they may come in contact with.

    Quit looking at who's got it and look at who's spreading it. If an anti-vaxer gets it they most likely will get a case that will let them know they have it or they've already had it. It is the vaccinated that majority get such a light case they may not even be aware of it.

    That why you shut down travel, to stop those that are spreading it. Not to condemn those that get it or have it.

    Natural immunity is proving to be the best and longest lasting protection but even then there have been various breakthrough cases from three months to a year or more after the original case. But again like the vaccinated they've been normally light cases.

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    • RoyyRogers

      This is what I find stupid. Many demanding and pushing others to get vaccinated don't even know how the vaccine works. If you are pro vaccine since you want to lie and tell people getting the shot means you can not spread it you are the problem.

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    • Boojum

      I'm sure you're right, and a lot of vaccinated people (maybe even the majority) believe that since they're vaccinated, they can just stop worrying about the virus. I suspect this is due to various combinations of wishful thinking on their part, utterly crap advice floating around on social media, and an inability to actually comprehend anything more complicated than realty TV. But I suspect it's also due to those in authority being reluctant to bluntly and repeatedly say, "Take the vaccine, but you'll still be vulnerable, and so you'll need to keep taking the same precautions." That's not exactly a persuasive line, when all people want to do is get the hell back to pre-Covid normal.

      In the part of the UK we live in, around 70% of the population has been double-vaccinated now. For what it's worth - and it's not much, since it's only anecdotal - we were out today in several shops, and virtually everyone I saw was complying with the rules and wearing a mask when inside.

      My understanding is that the current thinking is that while you can indeed pass on the virus if you've been vaccinated and come down with the virus, the number of viral particles you'll spread around will be lower than if you hadn't been vaccinated, and you'll be spreading them for a shorter period. It's obviously something that's very difficult to research and quantify, but that makes sense to me. However, that could just be me indulging in some wishful thinking.

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  • jethro

    How effective do you think water is?

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    • LloydAsher

      At drowning in it? Pretty effective.

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