I wonder if i already had covid19 and was asymptomatic

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I'm only stating what I've been wondering. I'm not asking anyone to play doctor, I just want a few opinionated guesses on what you believe may be the case with me. I sometimes think that I may have already had covid19 and was asymptomatic. Even though I only go out a couple times a week to the store and to a clinic, there have been several occasions after going there where without paying attention, I scratched or blew my nose without having washed my hands yet. My mask also came off a couple of times at the clinic, where numerous other people had been standing, possibly infected. And I'm often eating fruit from the store that who knows had breathed on, after only rinsing it with water. I've torn open things like packages of cheese with my mouth that someone at the store may've been very near. There are numerous possible risky things I've done, but I've never felt sick, had a fever, had a cough or breathing issues. I wonder if I've had it already and had no symptoms.

There is one thing that makes me think that I probably haven't had it. My elderly neighbor is the one who drives me to the clinic and the store when I go, I sit next to him in the car, but he's never been sick. If I had it but without symptoms, wouldn't I have passed it to him and he would've definitely had symptoms because he's elderly? I do always wear my mask when I'm with him though.

Anyway, what do you all think?

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SwickDinging

3 years ago

Nobody will definitely get symptoms if they have covid. Even the most at risk groups of people (elderly and diabetics) are still statistically likely to be totally fine if they get covid.

It's probably best to assume you've not had it yet, unless you know for sure.

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olderdude-xx

3 years ago

I had mild symptoms in March & April (and I assume I had it then). However, I clearly have had long term effects that have required change in my life on how I move forward (another issue to work around).

Please note that there are at least 5 different strains of Covid-19 as of 2 months ago (like there are different strains of flu and colds). Your 2nd (or 3rd, etc.) time around may be a different strain.

None of the currently used testing is as accurate as normal medical standards. Everything has been approved via "emergency" authorization without the rigorous standards normally required. At this point I believe they have weeded out the worst of the tests (some of the initial testing in March - August was found to be only about 50% accurate; which is as accurate as flipping a coin).

In the USA, the initial vaccine approvals will also short-cut normal approval standards for lack of significant side effects (I cannot speak to what other countries will do).

Usually people die or are severely disabled from vaccines that are not fully tested to modern standards; but, in this case they feel that the trade-off is necessary to try to prevent more Covi-19 Deaths. Only time will tell.

This safety and side effect testing is the reason that the fastest previous vaccine approval was 4 years; and there are diseases that researchers have worked for decades and not yet found a vaccine that is considered safe enough for normal use.

So both with testing - and the vaccine: we are moving forward with both tests and vaccines that do not meet normal levels of medical accuracy or safety.

Then no one knows what the long term effects really are from both Covid and the Vaccines they are rushing to market.

So, yes; this is a real concern.

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Boojum

3 years ago

There's no way you can know if you've had it without taking the antibody test. Even then, the tests are not perfect, so it's possible to have a false positive or negative.

As for the elderly guy not having any symptoms, that could mean that you didn't have it and so didn't pass it on, or it could mean that you were asymptomatic and he was as well. The virus does tend to cause bigger problems for older people, but it's not like every old geezer who gets it ends up dead. One of the biggest problems with this virus is that it's very difficult to predict how a particular person will be affected, and there have been suggestions that a factor as random and unpredictable as exactly how many viral particles are inhaled can make a huge difference in the course the illness takes.

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charli.m

3 years ago

It's possible. You can go and do an antibody test.

Of course, having had it doesn't guarantee you much, seeing as it's such early stages.

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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  3 years ago
  
  What do you mean early stages? What if I had it asymptomatically like 3 months ago?
  
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  - Boojum
    
    3 years ago
    
    This illness is so new that there's huge uncertainty about if people are truly immune following infection, how long that immunity lasts and if there are other factors which might mean that antibodies have only a limited effect.
    
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    - [Old Memory]
      
      3 years ago
      
      Not to mention the permanent (?) physiological changes in the lungs and brain that no one seems to care about
      
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      - charli.m
        
        3 years ago
        
        Exactly this. It's painful how many people are totally flippant about this.
        
        Cardiovascular and kidney damage have been serious factors, too.
        
        What if it's like chicken pox and has a reactivation like shingles? We just don't know, so to act like it's no big deal is just...dumb.
        
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        3 years ago
        
        All those people being flippant about this is why the number of new cases keep growing so dramatically, they don't freakin take precautions seriously and they aren't being careful at all with what they do.
        
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        Boojum
        
        3 years ago
        
        I don't find the flippancy painful; my reaction is despair at how wilful ignorance and wishful thinking always leads to irrational behaviour, along with contempt for those in power who are despicable enough to exploit this human weakness for their personal gain.
        
        The point you make about shingles is something that also concerns me. Some viral infections do indeed go into stealth mode for years or even decades, but then become acute conditions when the immune system is challenged or weakens due to age. And then there's the research that's finding that that the original cause of some cancers is a virus.
        
        HiddenLeaf mentions neurological problems due to Covid19; a lot of people seem to be completely unaware of this. Obviously, the main focus of research up to now has been in figuring out how to best deal with the acute phase, and it's impossible to do long-term studies since the virus hasn't been circulating for long. But there are numerous cases of relatively young, healthy people being infected, recovering from the acute phase - which might not have been that bad - and then experiencing memory loss, difficulty in concentrating and brain fog for months afterwards. Clearly, the virus is fucking with the brain in ways that the flu, cold and other common infectious viruses never do. As far as I'm concerned, anything that potentially screws up your mental processes should be treated very seriously.
        
        As you say, we know very little about this virus (apart from the fact that it's easily transmissible), so it's incredibly stupid to dismiss it as nothing more than a type of flu that only causes serious problems for old people and those with the infamous pre-existing conditions.
        
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      - Anonymous Post Author
        
        3 years ago
        
        So is there a chance that I could've had it and that I could have lung damage now and not know it?
        
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        [Old Memory]
        
        3 years ago
        
        Very well so, especially if you're asymptomatic because the disease would have time to grow before you catch it if you don't even notice anything wrong
        
        Have you ever seen videos on people who get tapeworms from sushi and stuff? A lot don't realize they have one until it has a death grip on them
        
        Same thing with psychology
        
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    - Anonymous Post Author
      
      3 years ago
      
      Right now, there have been over 9 million covid19 cases in America, and only a tiny percentage of them have reportedly caught covid19 twice. HOWEVER, that could change alot. The antibodies could wear off in almost anyone who caught it after about 6 months, or maybe a year or two. We've only had this pandemic for 6 months so far. And there have been several reported cases of someone catching covid19 twice, which means basically that anyone can get it twice, or 3 times, or endlessly. And, there's the damage to the lungs, liver, kidneys, etc. that having the illness has done to a considerable portion of those who had it. And just because there are those who can't tell that they have any damage like that, symptoms from that damage could show up just after aging a couple more years. They then get symptoms which will show them the damage done to their lungs, liver, etc. I'm taking this very seriously. That's why I'm posting on here about it, to talk with as many people as possible about my concerns.
      
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    3 years ago
    
    You can still get it again
    
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darefu

3 years ago

So I'm trying to understand this, you're worried about covid, you don't trust treatments that have been rushed, you don't trust vaccines that have been rushed. So we should all stay home locked away until we starve to death, or do you have your sacraficial people that should be out there doing their jobs so you can survive. Don't get me wrong I don't like the unanswered questions with covid either but we can't just lie down and die. I don't recall seeing any vaccines or drugs that don't have side effects even those that go through 4 years of testing. I'll take the basic precautions like masks and distance but I'm not going to hide while expecting the farmer, grocer, truck drivers, stockers, delivery drivers, medical, utility workers and all the other jobs involved to keep working. We are all in this together and I think it's going to be around in one form or another for a while. we better learn how to function with it.

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- Boojum
  
  3 years ago
  
  There's a hint in your comment of the false dichotomy pushed by Trump in the USA and right-wing nutters of the Conservative Party in the UK: it's either total lock-down and economic devastation, or everybody believing as hard as they can that there's really no problem so we can get the economy back on the rails.
  
  Masks aren't the total answer. Social distancing isn't the total answer. Regular handwashing definitely isn't the total answer. Closing places like bars, restaurants and other places where people have always been in close contact and where the environment is such that the airborne virus can readily circulate isn't the total answer. Stopping gatherings of more than a handful of people isn't the total answer. Making employees work remotely when possible isn't the total answer, and neither is requiring employers to either HEPA filter recirculated air or entirely stop recirculation in workplaces.
  
  But there's very strong evidence that all of those things combined can drastically reduce the spread of the virus.
  
  I agree that the virus is going to be around for a while - possibly even forever. When a properly tested vaccine is available, I'll be happy to take it, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for that day.
  
  And while I take your point about how some people have no option but to continue working if our society is to continue to function at a somewhat normal level, I don't get how everyone else not altering our behaviour to reduce to the minimum possible the chance of us catching it is somehow helping or expressing support for those workers.
  
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my_life_my_way

3 years ago

I had an awful in late February but it was before the lockdown here and I didn’t want to miss work/uni lectures so i probably just accidentally became a coronavirus super spreader.

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chuy

3 years ago

me too

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[Old Memory]

3 years ago

I had it and had only very mild symptoms. I experienced quite a bit of coughing but no real fever or headaches or anything like is common. I did lose my sense of smell though for about 2 days but not my sense of taste.
I only know I had it because I went to take a covid test which came back negative even though I was sneezing and coughing and had been in very close quarters with two people who were positive. The nurse that gave me the results told me I should get an antibody test and I took her advice.

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ellnell

3 years ago

I think many people has had covid without symptoms and myself included. Especially young people probably has it often without symptoms i'm guessing and then goes outside and spreads it because they think they're fine... And you can't exactly test yourself everyday, or put your whole entire life on hold. We have no clue for how long this will be going on.

I've had mild symptoms. Sometimes i've felt a heaviness in my chest but it doesn't last for long. I had unusually frequent headaches during the spring and that is back again now, though the headaches are mild they are very frequent. I've also had lots of random muscle aches and still do. Hurts like hell some days like i've had the worlds most intense exercise the day prior and I can't find any logical reason for it but I do know that muscle aches are a somewhat common symptom in covid19.
My close family has had symptoms as well, the more common covid19 symptoms, and i've been around them so if they've had it it's pretty much impossible that I haven't. I took a test in the summer though, and it came out negative.

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- Boojum
  
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  The random symptoms you mention sound a lot like what other people who have tested positive for the virus have described. And, as I'm sure you're aware, it's unfortunately the case that these problems can continue for many months.
  
  Your negative test is troubling for a couple of reasons. First, it's never good when a diagnostic test returns a false negative. I know some of the tests used in the early months were found to be pretty crap, so maybe that's the explanation in your case. Even more worrying is that it seems that some people's antibody count falls so rapidly that a test a couple of months after the acute phase will not detect any antibodies. The consequences this has for immunity is troubling, but my understanding is that it's hoped that other mechanisms of the immune system will remain primed to attack any further appearances of the virus.
  
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    3 years ago
    
    Is it possible that if you catch covid19 a second time, it may be less severe than the first time?
    
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[Old Memory]

3 years ago

I had covid one month ago, the most common symptoms are tiredness, mild to moderate fever and a dry cough(i had all three). I rested and it passed in seven days. Its a pretty mild disease if you are healthy.

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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  3 years ago
  
  How old are you? I'm 45, so I may not get it mildly, even though I don't have any real notable illnesses. Unless I've had it already asymptomatically like I've questioned in this post. I guess that one of the reasons I've posted this page is because I've been hoping that I've already had it and had it symptom-free, because that idea clears my mind of the worry of catching it and getting it severely, being on a ventilator, etc. It's kind of a cop-out idea. Unfortunately, what makes it look like I've not already had it asymptomatically is that I'm sure I would've passed it to my elderly neighbor if I had, I've sat next to him in the front seat of his car twice a week for the past 5 months. Then again, is it possible that I could've had it but not passed it on to him simply because I'm always wearing my mask when sitting in the car with him? Would a mask be enough to keep from spreading it to someone that you're sitting right next to in a car?
  
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  - [Old Memory]
    
    3 years ago
    
    Im 34 years old with many rare illnesses.
    My whole family caught covid one month ago, my mom( 61 years old with hypertension, diabetes, mental illnesses, sedentary lifestyle) landed in hospital, she developed covid pneumonia and was put on antibiotics and steroids. She was discharged after a week and is doing much better now.
    
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    - Anonymous Post Author
      
      3 years ago
      
      That's good that your mom got better. Do the worst symptoms of covid19 usually last less than a month? Because there are some people on here saying that really bad symptoms can stay for many months.
      
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      - [Old Memory]
        
        3 years ago
        
        My fever lasted for three days, while the dry cough and tiredness lasted for seven days or so.
        I do not know about the duration of milder symptoms (if u get them).
        
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donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

3 years ago

im pretty sure i had it in mid february

if not it was an awful coughy flu i had

i was fucked for a week or so

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jodi1955

3 years ago

covid is the flu! it effects everyone different, some get really sick some just minor symptoms no way to know for sure unless you are tested while sick

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- Boojum
  
  3 years ago
  
  Yes, and a porcupine is an elephant because they both have four legs, a tail and a human encounter with one can end very painfully.
  
  The flu is caused by the influenza virus; Covid19 is caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Both are viruses and both primarily attack the respiratory system, but anyone who says "covid is the flu" is clearly so wilfully ignorant that anything else they say should be disregarded.
  
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  - Anonymous Post Author
    
    3 years ago
    
    Right. The percentage of people who catch covid19 who die is much higher than the percentage of people who catch the flu die. About 1 out of every 11 to 12 people who catch covid19 die, about 1 out of every 50 to 100 people who catch the flu die. Between 1/12 and 1/50, which is the smaller fraction? Also, a much higher percentage of covid19 victims end up with lung or brain damage than flu victims. They are definitely not the same. Were people having to wear masks all the time and get very serious about social distancing during all of our regular annual flu seasons? Nope.
    
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    3 years ago
    
    The porcupine and elephant comparison is too similar because they're both mammals. Comparing flu to covid19 is more like comparing an elephant to a fish because they both have eyes.
    
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LloydAsher

3 years ago

I'm pretty sure I had covid. It's just I had a bad cough in the first two days and then boom gone. Still felt like shit for a week. Idk if I just got unlucky on got the normal flu or something. It hit me in march and my father was a doctor going in every day for the covid response.

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I wonder if i already had covid19 and was asymptomatic