I tend to disagree on what constitutes a disaster...

I don't believe there is a such thing as a "natural disaster". If it's natural, how is it a disaster? If the "natural disaster" causes damage to human structures or life, it's still not a disaster to the natural world, only to this false society we have made. A volcano erupting isn't a disaster, it's a volcano doing what it does. Just because people (stupidly) decide to live below a volcano does not make it a disaster. The ocean eroding land or built structures is not a disaster, a flood is not a disaster, a tornado isn't a disaster-it happens in nature. The disaster is that people put themselves in the way of such uncontrollable forces of nature and don't expect to be wiped out. Even forest fires NEED to occur every so often to clear brush and release seeds (some seeds ONLY release when burned).

Help us keep this site organized and clean. Thanks!
[ Report Post ]
Comments ( 19 ) Sort: best | oldest
  • humans are the only "natural disaster" to happen on this planet.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • Yes yes humans are horrible we've all heard it. Yet here we are on the computer asking meaningless questions and ranting about things we don't plan to do anything about.
    Besides they CAN be dissaterous to the natural world, lest we forget the dinosaurs- bless their stupid little brains
    Just imagine what could have been

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • I disagree with your decisions on what is and isn't a natural disaster.

    If nature causes something that destroys stuff we need, it's a natural disaster. That includes destruction of man made property and resulting issues from that destruction.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • Only to this "False society" we have made? There's nothing false about society. What does that even mean? If this is a "false society" than that suggests there is a "true society"... What's a true society?

    Anyway, I agree that there are unavoidable natural occurrences which destroy both human and non-human life as well as the environment. Whether or not these are deemed disasters is subjective; if your entire family was wiped out because of a natural event I imagine you'd deem that a disaster. If you've spent your life protecting a species from extinction and their habitat is destroyed suddenly, I imagine you'd deem that a disaster. If your house is ruined by flood waters, I imagine you'd deem that a disaster.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • I'm undecisive on this. The situation in a "disaster" Can be changed by the facts shown, or the cause. Yes, a forest fire can happen if it gets to warm. But, can happen if a manmade object ignites a forest. Then it becomes a manmade disaster. Some of the disasters that happen today were caused by humans.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • A disaster isn't the function of a human being, but is the active incident of an accident or weather, thus natural disaters are not only existing, they're good because a derelict house you don't need while someone has money can be the upstart of building a new derelict house elsewhere, again this is good because only pleasure seekers would want beauty and charm instead of love and what truly matters in a home: books, water, food and clothes.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • I don't think there's any place where people can be completely safe from natural forces, so they're not putting themselves in the way, they're simply living.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • You're taking the term and spinning it entirely too literally. What people mean when they say "natural disaster" is something that happens naturally (nature related) that destroys or incredibly disrupts life. Example: earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes. These are a few natural disasters that, when they hit, cause a disaster (destroyed buildings, injury, death, etc)

    Comment Hidden ( show )
      -
    • Oh and P.S., sometimes we do put ourselves in the way of disasters, but natural disasters can occur ANYwhere at ANY time. They are not always avoidable.

      Comment Hidden ( show )
  • The point that you fail to make, OP, is that "nature" has been sooo compromised by man at this point in time, that there is really nothing "natural" about a lot of the earthquakes,volcanic eruptions,tsunamis, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, glacial ice cap melting, increase in the Northern lights display, increasing damage to the ozone layer, and so forth.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • Logically, you are right. But when were other human beings ever so logical as you? When people say "natural disaster", it should mean exactly what you say and, as such, it'd be a nonsense.

    I think there's a subtlety that you're missing and it's a subtlety which highlights the utter self-obsession humanity fosters. We pick and choose whether words apply to us. In the phrase "natural disaster" we choose the word disaster to imply us only (poor us) and we choose natural as the perpetrator (evil nature). Howaminotmyself was very subtle in pointing this out (probably too subtle for most) and she did what I often do and turned it on its head (i.e. humans being a disaster for nature).

    You have no idea how much I wish I could draw out a simple truth table to illustrate this, because everyone is right. We all just chose a different box on the 2x2 truth table. I'd be weirded out if anyone posted and chose the last remaining box which implies nature is being evil to itself, though. It's true, but very strange for a human to consider because we're a bit too self-involved.

    Also, I didn't explain this well. I really need to draw a diagram.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
      -
    • "and we choose natural as the perpetrator (evil nature)"

      I think "natural" serves as a basic explanatory adjective. Like "Humanitarian Aid" informs us of the TYPE of aid. "Natural" is there just to let us know it wasn't a direct action on the part of people, not so we know who to direct our hatred towards.

      Comment Hidden ( show )
        -
      • It was a play on words. Is a natural disaster a disaster for nature, or a disaster caused by nature? That's what I thought the OP was getting at.

        As you noticed, I added to this by talking about the culpability of nature. This is obviously fatuous. I was talking about humans. And I did what I often do; use the diametrically opposed to make a point.

        I think I made the point just about badly enough (I still want the truth table and a Powerpoint presentation) but I stand by what I said. You're picking on a strand of that and you are more than welcome to. Actually, I'm glad you are. I've seen your posts around and I respect your opinion.

        I'm not always right. Same as anyone. I do very much like it when someone points it out, though, because I learn something by that.

        Comment Hidden ( show )
    • LMAO

      Comment Hidden ( show )
  • It isn't a disaster in and of itself. It creates disruption to our way of life. It happens. How we choose to live with the reality of these forces can be disasterous. Humans often forget that we can be a "natural disaster" to the earth itself.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • it causes a human disaster. but were not going to say "flood which caused human disaster."

    Comment Hidden ( show )