I believe in both god, and that the earth incredibly old

So, I believe that God created the universe and everything in it.

I believe that the incredible complexity(among other things) of everything on this Earth points to a God.

If you look at Genesis, where God creates the universe, it states that he creates everything in 7 "days."

The Bible was originally written in Hebrew. The word used, "yom," translates to "time," "period of light," "sunrise to sunset," and "A long, but finite span of time."

Rome wasn't built in a day. I believe that the Earth wasn't either. I think God took his sweet time creating the universe.

Of course, I don't deny micro-evolution. I just disagree with the idea that humans came from anywhere other than God.

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  • I don't get why you feel the need to mention it. Neither new nor old Earth hypotheses are condemned. Neither is heretical. I see no issue here.

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    • I had always heard/been taught that the Earth was young, never that it was accepted for it to be old.

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      • Clearly, you were taught by people who think they know more than they actually do.

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  • GODS DONT HAVE TIME, THEY CAN SEE EVERYTHING AT ONCE.

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  • Well done on taking a few steps towards a rational view of the universe.

    Next, you might consider that if the opening chapter of Genesis is metaphor and questionable translation, isn't it logical to assume that the rest of the book is more of the same?

    Of course, if you're so egotistical that you just can't accept that humans are animals with brains that are the result of evolutionary pressures that favoured the development of our brand of intelligence, then I can see how that might be a very painful step for you to take.

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    • I understand and respect your position. I don't, however, respect your ego.

      Someone who believes something other than you must be an egotistical, willfully ignorant moron? Wow, I'm sure you're fun at parties.

      I believe in the intelligent design theory. You might believe in the evolution theory. That's fine, we can agree to disagree. Just don't think you're going to change any theist's opinion if you bible-thump them with your beliefs. That's why I don't either.

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      • Meh. 🤷‍♂️

        Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be one of your strong points. I didn't actually call you egotistical, willfully ignorant or a moron, but anyone who studies the Bible must develop the skills of filling in blanks and drawing conclusions based on nothing much at all, so I guess it's understandable that you believe I did.

        FWIW, I'm fine with people believing whatever nonsense they choose. As long as you don't try to cram it down my throat or anyone else's, that's fine by me.

        I recently learned about the Great Tartarian Mud Flood and the reset of 1834. From now on, whenever I come across someone who enjoys believing in BS that lacks any credible, supporting evidence, I'm going to suggest they investigate it. Check it out, brah, it might be right up your alley.

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    • "But there's so much order in the world it's literally impossible to be an accident"

      "Wouldn't it make sense that it would happen in such a complicated and organized way on its own?"

      "No because without God there wouldn't even be a universe"

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      • This is merely the teleological argument for the existence of a deity, also known as intelligent design or watchmaker argument.

        David Hume started shooting holes in that argument more than 300 years ago, and countless philosophers have continued to shred it with logic in the centuries ever since.

        But of course people are free to ignore all that and hand-wave away the complete lack of any hard scientific evidence supporting the existence of a deity as either the prime-mover of the cosmos or the existence of life on earth. Some people really desperately need to believe that they are super-important and their existence is super-significant, even though our time on this piffling little rock orbiting one very normal star in one of a hundred billion galaxies isn't even a blink of the eye in the life of the universe.

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  • I have a Biblical theory. The "forbidden fruit" is actually the knowledge about how to control fire.

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  • same bro, I actually think the theory of evolution makes more sense if god eists

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    • I was thinking about that too... What if evolution is simply how God created all life? That would also support an old-Earth theory, since it would take billions of years for creatures to evolve in such a way.

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  • Well I don’t know about that shit yo....

    However, you have figured out that no explanation to existence has to be mutually exclusive.

    You’re officially smarter than 90% of the population.

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  • The idea that you could time god by the instruments he's creating baffles me

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  • No problem here. But good to see someone swimming against the meta-tide of: 'you believe in God so you must be a young/flat-earther'.

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    • I've never heard of there being a huge Christian flat-earth community. I've just always heard that the Earth must be young.

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      • You've "always heard that the Earth must be young".

        That makes it sound like this is an assertion that you've never actually investigated, but rather that you've simply accepted what someone who claimed some degree of expertise told you was true. And yet you say in your OP title that you accept that the earth is very old.

        Anyone who spent time studying cosmology, geology, palaeontology, archaeology and evolutionary biology would come to realise that countless indisputable facts all fit together in such logical, consistent way that the story told in the opening verses of Genesis cannot be anything more than just one of countless creation myths.

        However, such an investigation does require effort and some degree of dedication. Most people find it far easier to click Like and Subscribe, continue to put their cash in the collection plate and gulp down whatever guff allows them to believe that Earth is the true centre of the universe, humans are the pinnacle of God's creation and they are vitally important to Him.

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        • Let me rephrase it for you. Growing up, I'd always been told that the Earth is young. I disagree with that, having found out a few facts about the specific word choice in the Bible.

          Have you spent time studying cosmology, geology, paleontology, archaeology, and evolutionary biology? Can you link me some studies or articles on the subject so I can get a clearer picture?

          I don't think anybody believes that the Earth is the center of the universe.

          Also, humanity is not vital to God. He's omnipotent, and to suggest that He needs us for something would contradict that.

          Why He uses us, given that fact? No idea, I don't claim to know what motives He has.

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  • 7 days could be a representation of several million years to create the earth having a day of rest every seven million years is not practical so seven days is used

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    • Well, the original text read as "periods of time," so that's why it's not clear exactly how old the Earth is according to the Bible.

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