For trans people to still feel bad after switching genders?

My friend had lots of anxiety and issues including anorexia and body dysmorphia. I thought since becoming ftm he would feel better but a year and a half later still anxiety, agoraphobia and unable to seek relationships. Mostly a shut in. Is this normal for post trans and will it get better?

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  • d0esnormalmatter

    Yes it normal for all trans people to feel bad. It's a fucking mental disorder, a kind of body dysmorphia. That's like saying "iin for people with depression to still feel bad?" Like bitch, it's part of the mf definition. Next step is to blame society for all your problems cause their "oppressing" you and then continue your stupid fuckin life based off playing the victim card and getting gullible virtue signaling noobs to feel bad for you.

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    • FromTheSouthWeirdMan

      The medical term is body dysmorphia which is labeled a mental disorder.

      Idk how true it is but apparantly 50% of trans people kill themselves so it's obviously a big deal to THEM. There's no cut and dry answer because even with hormones you cant change sexs. You can try and maybe if you have lots of money and good genes you'll look good. But its never gonna be the same.

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      • d0esnormalmatter

        I think its 40% if I recall froma crowder video, but yes, very high. They say its cause their marginalized by society even though fucking slaves didn't have that high of suicide rate. Mentally, those people ain't right.

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        • leggs91200

          I do not know about other TG but in public and at my job, people just treat me like anyone else. I am around a pretty diverse population and very few seem to have a problem.

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          • d0esnormalmatter

            Oh well your PERSONAL anecdote doesn't disprove studies on thousands of people.

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          • FromTheSouthWeirdMan

            Are you trans too?

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            • leggs91200

              Yep, much to dnm's dismay

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            • d0esnormalmatter

              Yes he is mate where have you been?

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        • LloydAsher

          Theres also body dysmorphia that causes you to want to chop off "foriegn" limbs. They dont want to have their right arm because it doesnt feel right. Do we chop it off because it's weird to them or do we fix the underlying problem in the brain?

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          • d0esnormalmatter

            Yeah chief that's the road were headed down. Agefluid is a thing now I have seen it multiple places on reddit. "dON't fIt iNTo a SIngLe aGe idEnTiTY" Were headed further down this fucking road and it's really not good.

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          • NoLifer

            There was a guy who had this problem. They chopped off his limb because mentally his brain didn't register it was there.

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            • LloydAsher

              It's not the solution to the problem. Most people who have this disorder dilibertly cause damage to the limb so theres no choice but for amputation. That is not NORMAL.

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    • leggs91200

      I am guessing aside fro the TG you have communicated with on here or the web, you have never known one in real life. In real life, most of us do our best to blend in, live normal lives. Hey, we are actually pretty boring, just like anyone.
      I am TG and my typical day - get up, get ready for work, go to work, come home, rot away on the laptop. Sleep.

      Here is the thing -
      You are THE most outspoken member of this site when it comes to putting down TG. I am starting to wonder why that is.

      Now sure a few regulars here do not agree with how us TG choose to live (which is fine) but you are the only one who gets hell-bent out of shape about it.

      Why is this?

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      • d0esnormalmatter

        No I have never personally met a tranny in real life, and I hope it stays that way. You *think* you live a normal life cause its normal to you but 99 percent of the world thinks its fucking weird. Who gets to determine what's weird, the person doing it or everyone else?

        I am the "most outspoken" because of how strongly I disagree with everything it stands for. Modern gender theory appalls me with its idiocy. It's just a really strong opinion of mine basically. I think this way of thinking is causing more harm then people realize.

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        • leggs91200

          For people who are not in contact with anyone TG, it doesn't even affect them so why would they care about something that has nothing to do with them?

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          • d0esnormalmatter

            Well if you pay attention, I only care when it comes up. I never say outta the blue what I think about transgenders.

            Even then, should nobody care about anything unless it affects them? I think telling people to fuck it and change their bodies cause they feel a certain way is wrong. Its harmful to the person. I believe this causes the excruciatingly high suicide rate.

            I know you don't see it this way, but you asked why, I think be trans is a disorder that's harmful to ones mental health and is not being properly treated because of society and politicians trying to virtue signal. Where normalizing giving into delusion and I think that harms people! I know I don't seem like the most compassionate guy in the world on here, but stuff like this bothers me nonetheless.

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            • Mammal-lover

              You litterly do the exact same thing with steroids though wich invalidates this statement. Let alone your disbelief in cold hard facts. I think you just like to be angry

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    • frankspansy

      That's not how it works, dude. It's a mental disorder because the brain develops differently than the body whilst in the womb, which causes the dissatisfaction with the body. If people are feeling shitty after transitioning that's because they don't actually have gender dysphoria. Also, most trans people (including me) don't constantly bitch about everyone treating us like shit as portrayed in the media, so sit the fuck down and stop using people's questions to get your uninformed and transphobic point across.

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      • d0esnormalmatter

        I do not agree. That isn't why post OP trans people still feel bad. They feel bad because the problem isn't fixed. The problem is they think they are a different gender. That problem does not go away with operation.

        I can sit down if you'd like, but I will jot stop being transphobic. I am transphobic a lot, and its intentional. I don't treat disordered people the same sorry.

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        • frankspansy

          Where's the evidence for that? Plenty of post-op trans people are completely satisfied with their bodies. And just because someone has a mental disorder/illness doesn't make them worse in any way than you. Nobody chooses to be mentally ill.

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          • d0esnormalmatter

            Chief, you have to self identify as transgender. It is 100% a choice.

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  • SwickDinging

    I don't see how getting gender reassignment surgery is supposed to stop someone from being anorexic. I think that although the two things may exacerbate each other, they are none the less two separate issues.

    I would say the same about the other mental health issues you have mentioned here.

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  • Clunk42

    The suicide rate of transgenders doesn't decrease after transition, so it sounds like it would be normal enough.

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    • d0esnormalmatter

      THIS! Transition does not seem to help, yet its dangerous, costs a lot of money and is permanent but still everyone encourages people to "jUSt bE yOuRsELf!"

      Their interpreting it the wrong fucking way. Be yourself as in don't try to change the gender you were born with! You can't change it! Instead of looking like either gender you look like either a feminine man or a manly women, both of which are gross as fuck to 99 percent of the opposite sex and 100 percent of the opposite sex that aren't creepy desperate mouth breathers!

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      • GaelicPotato

        I think part of the reason it's a thing nowadays because society makes it so that certain behaviour is male or female.

        Just because little Timmy likes to play with barbies and wear dresses doesn't mean they're girl. They have a dick. They're still little Timmy, farmer Bob's son.

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        • d0esnormalmatter

          Yes I think that's a big reason. Take my upvote.

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      • Mammal-lover

        You are 100% right you cant change your gender you are born with nor would I want 2! Thank god you can change your sex though! I'm glad you are starting to see the light. Gotta work on your typing though you seem to try to come off as a hater rather than a supporter :)

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        • leggs91200

          I bet his dream is to be in a polyamorous marriage with an FTM and a MTF.

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          • Mammal-lover

            That would actually be kind of cute, I can see it to in his fantasy. The 2 guys hit the gym building them water clogged muscles go home and get bent over by her. While eating him out. He would be so happy haha

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            • leggs91200

              Yeah, you thought into it didn't you? Would Barry Mandalow be playing?

              I told DNM, why do some people worry about something that has nothing to do with them?

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        • LloydAsher

          I have an XXY chromosomal grouping. You know what that means?? I'm still a male. I'm a hell of alot closer to the other sex than most males that believe they are. But that doesnt change the reality that I was born with a penis.

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          • Aethylfritha

            Cool. Do you look more male or female? And are you considered a hermaphrodite? Sorry just curious

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            • LloydAsher

              I got a Male babyface, with the testaterone treatment I am maintaining any secondary male transformations. On the physical side I was born with a penis yet have a predisposition for fat to grow in excess on my chest. I am Sterile with paraspermia (I cant produce sperm not to be confused with semen

              As for your hermaphrodite question. There are no "true" hermaphrodites. The condition that hermaphrodites represents is the addition or subtraction of our two chromosomes XX for females and XY for males. People with my condition XXY are all males we just got a varied feminine looks depending how that extra X is represented in the growth in us. The growth from mine had the added benefit for my balls to remain the same size as when I was 8...

              Dont need to apologize for being curious.

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          • Mammal-lover

            Okay? Your point seems relatively moot.

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        • d0esnormalmatter

          Can't change sex either. I am quite a hater. Very transphobic.

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          • Nikclaire

            DNM. I am not a huge fan of trannies either but they really don't concern me.

            I agree with the ones on here that think there is something definately up with you, since you have such strong hatred.

            You are either attracted to them or maybe once you got a suprise from someone and it shook you up.

            It's ok if you mistakenly touch a tranny dick. It doesn't mean you are gay. (Although that's another topic for you).

            Get over it.

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            • d0esnormalmatter

              1. Never met a trannie irl

              2. Never dated/been sexual, anything with tranny!

              3. I would not say I have a "strong hatred" for transgenders. I just disagree. There is a distinction there. I feel bad for them in a way because I see being trans as an untreated mental illness.

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          • Mammal-lover

            You can change sex. Its a very easy procedure. The genitals contain contain everything needed for it. Since you are do ignorant hereditary thr official definition.

            The World Health Organization states, "'[s]ex' refers to the biological and physiological characteristics that define men and women," and "'gender' refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, activities, and attributes that a given society considers appropriate for men and women."

            Translation of that is you are an idiot not knowing the differences between the 2.

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      • FromTheSouthWeirdMan

        Haha mouth breather... thats an underated insult. On a serious note ive been catching my son doing it every now and then and I put a pacifier in his mouth to make him breathe through his nose. It messes your whole face up if u mouth breathe.

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        • LloydAsher

          Mouthbreathers are just unsightly to look at.

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        • d0esnormalmatter

          Yes exactly. Its insulting cause mouth breathers are so degenerate they can't even breath right.

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          • FromTheSouthWeirdMan

            Some of them have nasal issues

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            • d0esnormalmatter

              Along with all their mental issues like thinking you can switch genders or that there's more than 2 mf options.

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        • Mammal-lover

          Haha dude mouth breathers are so uncomfortable!

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  • bigbudchonga

    Let's be honest, god bless and live however you want to live, but until the WHO were pressured to say otherwise it was classified as a mental disorder. It's really not surprising that mimicking male attributes whilst having literally every single cell in your body as female leads to problems.

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  • RoseIsabella

    I have a trans friend who has told me she feels insecure in her femininity before, I don't typically talk a lot about it with anyone out of respect for her.

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    • LloydAsher

      You can be a masculine female it's not weird. Hyper feminine males are also AOK in my book. Why do people feel the need to change their body to reflect a delusional state I have no idea.

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      • RoseIsabella

        I dunno?

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        • LloydAsher

          I think it is society doing it. It's like telling a anorexic person they are fat. Feeding a lie isnt how you help someone and it isnt compassion.

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    • Mammal-lover

      Haha that's 5he beauty of being trans. People forget to just be themselves. I've known several tomboys who were trans women. I'm not saying it's not weird I'm just saying we live in a world were we are able to make our own choices and do what we like. So why not live free and be happy?

      Transitioning isnt for everyone and many who transition probably shouldnt and or have mental problems they need help with. But for the few of us it is good for well it's the best medicine. Sending someone to get help for being trans is the same as sending a gay to a gay camp. It's a disgusting act.

      Being trans has been around as long as humans have been around weither that's millions of years or just a few thousand.

      But for me personally transitioning is the best decision I ever made. Yes there are certain hardships I eouldnt have to deal with if I hadn't transitioned. But at the end of the day one path makes you a happy functioning member of society and one makes you miserable and depressed and borderline suicidal. If you ask me that's a really freaking easy decision

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  • GaelicPotato

    That's because you have a mental disorder.

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    • LloydAsher

      It's TRUE. People need to shake off that social justice BS and actually try to HELP those suffering from the disorder rather than promote it.

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      • GaelicPotato

        Thank you so much.

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  • leggs91200

    Some TG people think transition and/or living a new role will solve all their problems.
    Transition does help with the gender issues to some extent but all of life's other problems NOT related to gender remain.

    In some cases I think it is because some TG picture their future selves as looking like a supermodel man or woman. For most of us, that will just never happen. It can suck because the TG we see in the media are often the ones who DO look perfect. Like many people, we tend to compare ourselves to the unrealistic media standard.

    The only way for him to get over all this is to go out in public on the regular. He doesn't have to be a social butterfly but just getting out. Go places, live a life. A few people may talk shit. So what? Eventually one forgets what the hell they were afraid of.

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    • Mammal-lover

      Exactly, it wasnt till I came to terms with I could very easily be a ugly woman as I was a guy. Once I came to terms with that reality a certain calm set in. That's when I was able to transition and I dont regret it for a second. You are fully right. Transitioning only fixes the self identity problems. Of anything it adds more problems to life. For me all my problems were based on my self identity so my change went very smooth. I was becoming constantly happier. Sure theres moments of gender dysphoria. But you just rock through it as you know.

      I like your comment to dnm. He doesnt realize hes probably fapped to a few of us Haha. Hell I live in a minor city and one Job I had I had like 4 trans coworkers. We are common enough. Just shows how good we are at being invisible like everyone else so we can go home and puss our lives away online like everyone else Haha

      This is also directed to op. Iys normal and liks legs said transitioning doesnt fix as much as youd think. That's why I dont like all the media attention on us. Sets unrealistic standards weither good or bad

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    • Aethylfritha

      Do you think its like, people thing getting gastric bypass will fix everything but it only just fixes one problem( weight) but doesnt magically make their lives perfect ?

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  • MrMercury24

    Yes of course you still feel bad. Did you think that switching genders was gonna magically fix all the problems going on in your head? There's something wrong with the way you think about yourself as a person and you were most likely deflecting that on to your gender identity cause that's what society told you to do. You need to visit a psychiatrist who can help identify what's really wrong with you. Congrats buddy you just fucked up your body for absolutely no reason.

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  • FromTheSouthWeirdMan

    Im unqualified but i think there's no one size fits all answer to this.

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    • Mammal-lover

      Pretty much. Transitioning is case by case without a doubt. It should never be popularized. To many questioning there gender identity. It's like just live as you dont worry about the terms. Should you decide you want boobs and to change your name or vice versa do it but dont stress about it

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  • LloydAsher

    Yes the new gender rejection rate is around 60-70% that's why I'm not for pushing it younger and younger.

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    • bigbudchonga

      Wow, dude, that's so high

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  • Mammal-lover

    This. I support this. People mistake the 2 all the time.

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  • BleedingPain

    There is no cookie cutter solution to gender and body identification. I do not belong in the body I have. I want to remove my breasts permanently, but fear that even after surgery People will not accept me. That I couldnt be a woman, but I will also never be a real man. People are so judgmental (especially in my field) that it would also crush any credibility in my career path.

    Transitioning is so glorified, and sure its right for some, but society is still not truly accepting of it yet.

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    • RoseIsabella

      What is your career path?

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      • BleedingPain

        Broadcast Engineering. A woman in a man’s field. I have lost out on so many job offers because those men are still misogynistic.

        They give me the runaround for weeks, and then I find out that they hire someone else who physically cannot do parts of the job, in less than a weeks worth of consideration.

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        • LloydAsher

          If they are that misogynistic why do you even want to work with those assholes?

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          • BleedingPain

            I don’t. Not all men who are broadcast eng’s are, but a lot of the older generation still are.

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            • LloydAsher

              Let the natural selection of bias vs capitalism take its hold. Companys that refuse to have any diversity represented tend to have a harder time selling thier services to those of other diverse backgrounds than the company. Leading to boycotts and the eventual switching to letting everyone in because of capitalism.

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    • LloydAsher

      Your bone structure in your face is also a massive give away. Mental disorders are not attractive in any society. Hard truth is that life sometimes fucks up our brains from the get go.

      To change yourself into what you want doesnt mean you can force change in the rest of societies minds. If anything forcing it ingraines hatred. If it took 100 years for african americans to go from the slave caste to regular people for just the color of their skin and are 13% of the population, imagine how long it's going to take for a rare mental disorder to work it's way into mainstream society without forcing it that makes it worse.

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      • BleedingPain

        How does facial structure correlate to mental health? I agree that sometimes body dysmorphia is a mental issue , like people who think they are fat but are in fact really anorexic, but sometimes people who successfully transition are happy after. They are not sick.

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        • LloydAsher

          Key word there "sometimes" theres a majority that ain't happy afterwards and most often than not kill themselves.

          As for the bone stucture argument. Humans have sexual characteristics such as male bone structure being thicker. This leads to more pronounced features on the face. You got to look past the half centimeter of skin and muscle.

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      • NoLifer

        Are you sure about those statistics? I'm pretty sure a larger majority is African American.

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        • LloydAsher

          Might be off by a few percentage points but the original point still stands. How long did it take for a very common person to become ingrained in society? It was a slow progression and slow progression is the only way to bring change. Let the racists die off by old age and shun the new ones. But actively forcing those to change will cause the inverse.

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