Everytime someone mentions god, my body burns

Everytime someone mentions god either to me or on social media, I will get extremely angry and my body will start to feel like it's on fire. I have previously belong to a church that outsiders would consider a cult because they believe that there is not only a god the father, but a god the mother. You can Google the church online, it's called the world mission society church of God.

Ever since I left that church, my whole entire views on religion completely changed and in the end I became athiest. Suddenly it felt like I had so much hatred towards Christianity, I absolutely despised them and would mock Christians online.

I can't even read a scripture without trying to ignore it. Yesterday when I visited my mother's house I found that she had a Qur'an that her friend let her read, even though she's not Muslim. She's Catholic. I don't judge her for being Catholic and I don't care if she was Catholic, but if she did mention one thing about god to me, I can literally feel the rage boiling inside me.

Also just to make a disclaimer, the church did not perform any satanic Ritual or any ritual of any kind but it's weird that I feel like some demon is inside me.

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  • Clearly, the heretics have led you astray. The Devil has used the false claims of the heretics to turn you against God. That is what has happened here. Through your experience with those horrendous blasphemers, you have been able to see that they are clearly false; this is good. However, you have seen too far, so far that you have seen into untruth. You have seen that Christianity is false, which is not true. This is the true issue; you have, perhaps subconsciously, conflated those blasphemers with Christianity, which is a dangerous thing, indeed. So, whenever you think of Christianity, you think of those evil teachings instead of the truth that you should be thinking about.

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    • Ive noticed some of them atheist are ANGRY people man. If you question anything related to evolution they got all mad. I was talking to one the other day he said particals from another planet came down to earth through lightening and this allowed cells to evolve into worms then fish then we became humans from fish and there was no intelligent force guiding it it was just mutations that passed their genetics. I said that sounds like a ridiculous religion.

      They always straw man to say theres fossils. But the fossils dont explain the mechanism behind it. To me its possible we did evolve from fish but I dont believe natural selection was the only force at play. And you can tell they are emotionally invested because they get angry about it and resort to insulting abrahamic religions as a response. But they believe something even dumber.

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      • I say this as a preface: I don't reject evolution; I reject human evolution. There's a question that I've always had about evolution, though. However, it may be more of a language issue than an evolution issue. Lets see you have a turtle; it's parents, logically speaking, must have been turtles, for a non-turtle cannot produce a turtle. Logically speaking, then, at one point, there must have been a first turtle. However, if evolution is true, that means that a non-turtle gave birth to a turtle, and that is just absurd. A non-turtle cannot give birth to a turtle, just as a turtle cannot give birth to a non-turtle. Now, some might suggest that there were intermediate stages involved between the turtle and whatever ancestor it had, but that ancestor is still not a turtle. Thus, it cannot logically give birth to a turtle. Unless animals are on some sort of spectrum, where the extremes can somehow lead to an animal birthing another animal that it is not, then it makes no sense. Of course, again, this may be a problem with how our language classifies animals, rather than the theory of evolution.

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        • My understanding is natural selection is basically that a fish had a mutation like a little nub near the fins. And over generations these nubs slowly became legs. And this all happened without any intelligent force at play these were just mutations basically by accident. These mutations eventually made the fish evolve into different creatures.

          Honestly dude its really fuckin stupid. I think the problem is people are so closed minded and they appeal to authority to think for them. They look the other way when the authority is constantly wrong on different things because to them scientists are their god.

          They also point to obvious things like the fact that we are evolving and pretend that since natural selection exists and can be proven to an extent that this explains everything.

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    • Preach just like how lemons are addicting!

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  • Demon possession is real. You can get possessed by being in a cult. The fact that demons have an aversion to the Bible strenghten's my faith that it is most likely true. I did not believe in this stuff until it happened to me. Id seek a deliverence program to get an exorcism. Possession is not like in the movies. The Bible describes it quite accurately.

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    • I looked up that church. That is a cult and the leaders are likely possessed.

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    • Just out of curiosity, what happened to you?

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      • I worked in the music industry and played in metal bands. One guy I was in a band with was consulting in a witch on how to get famous and he was rude to the witch who instructed me to curse him to be nice. That was about 15 years ago. People have become demon possessed and I am confronted by people who are possessed. I previously thought everyone was mentally ill. Working in the music industry a lot of it was Satanic and people are into witchcraft and Satanism and there were obvious results and it is not good.

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  • Makes sense if you feel like they've kind of ruined/taken years of your life. And either something in fulfillment or your own (including mental) needs were lacking, or it conflicted with your own true values. Religion tend to look nice on the surface (and do genuinely have some good aspects), but have a lot of bad things when you look deeper into it. And cults are bad because they take away your freedom and free thinking. I dont have the same feelings (unless I really start to overthing it), but understand, and would probably feel the same if I had been in a religious cult.

    Im agnostic. The religions could be right. But from a philosophy perspective I see atheism as better. Because it lets you actually think freely and use your own reasoning (preferably combined with compassion) when making life choices and making up your values. And lots of cruel things have been done in the name of religion, as well as many things that are just dysfunctional (like being strongly against gays, when people cant change that and in practice it harms nobody)

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  • where's the "totally normal and right, religion is cancer" option?

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  • Um yeah you possessed bruh

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  • I am not convinced christianity is the right religion but I think the values it preaches in the new testament are a great value system for a society to follow. Its so good that I understand why some people think it was created to control society. And I think christianity has a big advantage over islam because it allows for seperation of church and state which is crucial for scientific research and development.

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  • I find it strange how lots of particularly weird versions of Christianity have appeared in South Korea. I can only assume that there's something about the culture of that country that makes quite a few people susceptible to that brand of bullshit.

    In any case, I can say with absolute certainty that you are definitely not possessed by a demon. Those don't exist. Anyone who believes in demonic possession is either looking for an excuse for their own behaviour which they lack the insight to understand, or they're looking for a simple explanation for why someone else does the things they do. The reality is that there's always a non-supernatural explanation for everything people do, but our brains are complicated things, sometimes the wiring and neurochemistry goes wrong, and stuff going on at an unconscious level sometimes makes us do things which we later consider irrational, evil or just really stupid. It's difficult to accept personal responsibility for that; it's far easier to lay all the blame on some invisible external entity.

    If you're seriously considering the possibility that you're possessed by a demon, then you haven't fully moved beyond the god illusion paradigm. Some part of you still believes that we live in a universe which is controlled or at least influenced by sentient, invisible entities rather than the laws of physics and chemistry. Some part of you still believes that what goes on in your head isn't the product of the way your brain was wired up when you were born due to genetics, everything you've experienced during your life, and the worldview that has led you to now have, but rather that your mind can be invaded by an external being which has the power to make you its puppet.

    It's not uncommon for those who have accepted the falsity of the god illusion and gone through deconversion to go through a phase where they feel angry. One of the major tricks used by Christianity (and many other religions, to at least some degree) is to make people feel very guilty about the most trivial, natural stuff on one hand, and then to offer forgiveness with the other hand. It's completely rational to feel angry that a bunch of twisted control freaks have done their best to make you feel ashamed that you found it difficult or impossible to obey their arbitrary rules (rules which those leaders themselves often don't actually comply with). It's rational to feel resentment that the joy you've been able to experience in life has been limited or that you've been made to feel ashamed to even exist by those delusional, greedy or power-mad religious leaders. It's sensible to be angry that those religious leaders are still exploiting believers, doing all they can to expand their customer base and working towards inflicting their irrational worldview and their particular version of morality on the whole of society.

    As you've probably figured out by now, I have no time for Christianity or any other religion. However, I've never felt anger at the mention of a deity, whether that be Odin, Nyx, the god of Christians (whatever that secret name is) or any of the other countless deities which humans have invented over the millennia. Feeling angry at the mention of a god is as sensible as feeling angry when someone mentions Lex Luthor, Doctor Doom or Magneto. Like those comic book villains, gods are the fictitious inventions of humans, so it's pointless and silly to feel any strong emotion regarding them.

    For what it's worth, I see believers as victims. Sometimes they're the victims of a particular person or group which is exploiting their human frailty in some way, but often they're the victims of indoctrination by their parents, social pressure to conform (up to and including violence), limited intellect or poor education. Often they're the victims of simple wishful thinking. For whatever reason, they're stuck in a worldview that is in denial of reality, but if they're comfortable there, then that's fine with me. As long as they don't start trying to convert me to their irrational version of reality or trying to force me to comply with the rules of life that they believe in, they can believe whatever they want.

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  • You might be suffering from mental illness, in which case you would want to talk to a psychiatrist but more likely you're just overthinking the issue. It is understandable to feel anger at being lied to since birth about god and religion but try to channel that anger in a positive way

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    • I forgot to add before entering the church, I had previously been to other churches trying to find a true purpose in god. I'd convince myself I was a Christian until I was 29-30. At the starting of 2020 I went through severe depression and suicidal tendencies.

      That is why I felt the way I do when it comes to religion, because after I left the church I began to question everything including the existence of a god. Once I turned athiest, I guess the leftover feeling of feeling lost and empty made me an angry person. It was like something took over me and whenever someone mentioned God or the subject of God, I would respond in a very judgemental way.

      I learned soon enough that I never once did believe in God. I was in denial in fear that I would go to hell when I die.

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      • You my freind speak from trauma. Just know that not everyone has experienced what you have and are likely not trying to set you off. They know not what they do. You should forgive them. They are blind to your troubles but know that your anger is a normal reaction. Just do not let it control you.

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  • Many religions other than Christianity have gods....

    Do you get mad if mention of those other gods for other religions as well; or only the Judo-christian/Muslim god?

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  • You are possessed😱

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  • I agree with Clunk in essence - that is one perspective from which it's possible to look at what's happening. However, I don't think it's expressed very sensitively for you. You certainly don't need Clunk or anyone else to be dictating what your thoughts 'should' be. That's for God alone to do. As for the truth, if you don't see it as truth, you don't see it. And you probably don't believe in the devil.

    Spiritual abuse does cause trauma and long-lasting damage. The emotional associations that things hold are powerful. You seem to be re-living past pain in the present - that is, having the past pain 'triggered' by the things around you. This is a trauma symptom.

    It may be hard for you to recognise when you are triggered in 'real time'. If you do, you could remind yourself in these moments that the present is not the past, and that your feelings linking the two things together, do not make the two things essentially similar in reality. Your feelings are tied to your trauma.

    My heart goes out to you. I am convinced that the Biblical story about Jesus Christ is the truth. I also believe that it could bring you peace in this life and the next. I believe that God cares about you and wants you back. I would strongly recommend that you take him up.

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    • One of the major purposes of the Church is to dictate what people's thoughts should be. Everyone needs guidance from the Church, or those within the Church who know better than them, otherwise they shall almost certainly go astray.

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      • "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom"

        I want nothing to do with a church that dictates what my thoughts should be. I'm not a Catholic and I can't help but think that Pope Francis would be horrified by that idea.

        In every single Sunday school parable, what Jesus makes an example of is individuals whose trust in God leads them to make wise or noble choices freely and of their OWN decision - the Prodigal Son deciding to go back to his father; the Shrewd Manager deciding where to invest his money, the Good Shepherd leaving 99 sheep on a hill to search for one lost sheep... nobody told them to do that. Their choice was a product of their faith.

        And the individuals who get a mention in the New Testament are the ones whose love leads them to go against the grain of what institutions in power say they should do - the Samaritan woman at the well who dared talk to Jesus as a Jewish man; the 'unclean' woman who touched Jesus' robe because she was desperate to be healed, when he was a holy teacher and it was thought that this action would 'pollute' him; the woman who poured expensive perfume all over Jesus' feet just because she wanted to; the prostitute who broke into a religious leaders' banquet because she wanted Jesus to make her clean... And it's not as if Jesus rejected those institutions! He taught in the Synagogue when he could! Although the objective of Jesus was not to have us be anarchists, we see that these people used their freedom of thought and that their choices showed that they really loved Jesus. And far from having 'dictated' to them that they should do that, Jesus was astonished by what they did of their own initiative, and marvelled at their faith!

        The unquestioning surrender of one's mental faculties to any disciple or institution is just not something you see in the New Testament. We trust whom we trust. We let them teach us because we trust them. We follow their advice because we love them, and because it is true to the spirit of Jesus, and because by following it, we are enabled to love God and people better.

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        • Jesus dictated what people's thoughts should be. Why do you think the story of the Prodigal Son even exists? Because Jesus was telling the people what the truth is, and the truth is objective. A Church that does not teach the truth is a useless institution. Why did Paul write his epistles? He wrote them because he was telling people what to believe; that's why he wrote them. As Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:

          "[12] Now if Christ be preached, that he arose again from the dead, how do some among you say, that there is no resurrection of the dead? [13] But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen again. [14] And if Christ be not risen again, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. [15] Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God: because we have given testimony against God, that he hath raised up Christ; whom he hath not raised up, if the dead rise not again.
          [16] For if the dead rise not again, neither is Christ risen again. [17] And if Christ be not risen again, your faith is vain, for you are yet in your sins. [18] Then they also that are fallen asleep in Christ, are perished. [19] If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable."

          What is this but a dictation of what people should think? People should listen to the Church, and the Church should teach definitively. The quote you have provided is misinterpreted. When Paul writes,

          "And our Lord is a Spirit, and where the Spirit of our Lord is, there is libertie."

          There is a gloss on this verse that interprets it correctly.

          "The Spirit and grace of God in the New Testament Dischargeth us of the bondage of the Law and sinne, but is not a warrant to us of fleshy licence, as St. Peter writeth (1 Peter 1,14): nor dischargeth Christians of their obedience to order, law, and power of Magistrates spiritual or temporal, as some Heretikes of these daies do seditiously teach."

          This, as a sidenote remarks, is "True Christian Libertie". The liberty of which this verse speaks is the ability to choose what is correct, and what is good, for without God's Spirit, there is only evil and desolation. People can choose what is good, but they will not know what is true without guidance. True Christian Liberty is not the ability to believe whatever one wants to believe; it is not the ability to do whatever one wants to do. True Christian Liberty is the ability to do what is good, and to believe what is rightly taught by the Church God established. To do or believe anything else is not choosing True Christian Liberty; it is, rather, choosing the opposite: the Devil's Slavery.

          Bergoglio perpetuates such an extreme amount of heresy; his opinions are irrelevant.

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