Do most democrats hate america?

Abortions up until birth, confiscating guns, transgender class teaching made mandatory, drag shows in front of kids, 70% tax rates, forced government healthcare, mourning the death of an Iranian general, free healthcare for criminal illegals, impeaching a President for a phone call.

You name it, they got it.

I did not vote for Trump in 2016, but based on how insane and left wing they are, I’m afraid that America as we know it will cease to exist if it becomes another Venezuela.

At least my vote (when it wasn’t there in ‘16) will help Trump win TX and its 39 delegates.

Yes, they want socialism, open borders and hate free speech 24
No, they somehow still like this country 18
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  • charli.m

    Maybe you could try facts instead of scaremongering?

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    • Boojum

      I think you'll find those are all FoxFacts™, and all endorsed by no less than the fantastically stable genius currently to be found in the White House - or, much more likely, on a Trump Resort golf course.

      Obviously, that's good enough for the OP. Lots of people find thinking very, very hard.

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      • charli.m

        Sounds about right.

        Came across the funniest sign last weekend. Huuuuge Trump 2020 billboard at a construction business, and under it said, "Let Trump be Trump!"

        Firstly, who exactly is stopping him? And secondly, isn't that the fucking problem? Haha. Fuckin Georgia...

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        • Boojum

          It's a demonstration of the snowflake mythology of the Trumpist right: they need to believe that, rather than them and their lickspittle allies firmly gripping the levers of power, they're the victims. Minnie Donnie's book was the same: he whines all the way through about how the evil lefties aren't allowing him to speak while he's just published a book, he's on a nationwide promotional tour and he's constantly all over the media, and meanwhile his demented fool of a windbag father never fucking shuts up for a moment.

          It's all taken straight from the first chapter of Authoritarian Government for Dummies: "Find an enemy. If you don't have one, manufacture one. Keeping your supporters focused on fighting this enemy will prevent them from noticing your shortcomings as a leader. Even if many of the aims of the enemy you've created align with the best interests of your supporters, they will remain loyal to you if you repeatedly demonise your enemy and have no qualms about lying about them."

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          • Nikclaire

            Pretty sure you just quoted saul alinsky. 🤣🤣🤣

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        • LloydAsher

          It suddenly becomes a problem with this hyper biased impeachment where the only non partisan support was trying to counter the impeachment vote.

          Bernie is now a misogynist. Warren is a snake in the grass.
          And biden... is a lost cause.

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          • charli.m

            D'awww. Lookit it pretend to be smart about shit it doesn't understand. Again. Cute.

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            • LloydAsher

              Whatever. Just because you take all your news from MSNBC doesnt make the rest of us herded animals.

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    • Not trying to cause shit but you're both a little right and a little wrong.

      To say this is nothing but scaremongering is a blatant lie and to say that all democrats think this way is also a blatant lie.

      - Bernie Sanders himself has stated he wants to confiscate a large portion of fire arms.
      - A democratic governor agrees with late-term abortion.
      - Joe Biden openly stated on the topic of open borders that unless an immigrant has committed a major crime they should be kept in the country.
      - We all know it wasn't conservatives that have allowed this crazy trans stuff to become part of children's lives, having them parade around in marches, and other sick shit.
      - Democrats blatantly sided with Iran on this one, folks like Mike Moore who essentially wrote them a love letter to Iran over Soleimani's death.

      So granted, not every democrat is like this, who knows maybe not even half (feels like atleast half) but it isn't random wack jobs which happen to be democrats that agree with the things OP brought up, it's popular figures and elected ones that have said the things OP brought up. You can't just dismiss that, just like OP can't dismiss that there are democrats struggling with how so many other democrats are the way he's described.

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      • Aethylfritha

        I cant fucking take Bernie seriously. He sounds like a caricature of a crazy old Jew.

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  • Boogienights

    This abhorrently ignorant perspective is the exact reason the world is laughing at the USA. If all the people you want to leave actually left, the USA would completely collapse because 50%+ would leave and your economy would be even more fucked than it already is. Nobody needs to ruin it for you because youre doing a really good job of that yourself. Your schools are the centre of endless shootings. Innocent children being murdered yet you still want guns. Getting sick causes millions of Americans to go bankrupt because of your disgustingly inhumane healthcare system. You think people are jealous of your "freedom" but you fail to see youre not free. You live in a plutocracy/oligarchy. The 1% have people like you by the balls. Its already ruined buddy. Your sociopathic leaders are responsible. But youre so brainwashed you still think its the best country on earth. Wake up.

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    • If you really think even 50% of Americans want socialism then you're sorely mistaken.

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      • Boogienights

        I think most sane rational Americans (that excludes any trump supporters) are probably compassionate towards their fellow Americans and would want equality, fairness and egalitarianism. If you call that socialism, well thats just yet another symptom of your toxic delusional mindset. And by the way that is more than 50% because the orange troll only won the election by cheating.

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        • Aethylfritha

          But we also dont think its ok that some people work hard and get no free stuff, while the lazy/ indolent/ irresponsible do nothing but burden society. How about if you are capable of working, everyone contributes and nobody gets left out.

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  • Boogienights

    The world hates America. USA is a laughing stock. Delusional narcisstic orange troll president and brainwashed fat idiot population

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    • Aethylfritha

      But everyone is coming here right? Why is that?

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      • noneoftheabove

        Yes we are all jealous of your so called “freedoms” and your “American dream”. We all want to be you. ROFLMFAO.
        The major problem with the USA is that the majority of the population believes in USA#1 A tag that has been invented by politicians, advertisers, army leaders and religious leaders. The idea of superiority is so deep rooted that there is a term for it - ‘merica.
        You cannot change a problem, social, cultural or anything else if you believe that the problem does not exist in the first place. This misconception is nurtured by the people in power. They exploit the population to their advantage. Considering the USA is a developed first world country you have a big under educated population who struggle to make ends meet every month. You also have a lot of neglected elderly people living below the poverty line.
        A good way to keep them ‘under’ is to feed them bullshit that their way of life is not just acceptable but is the way ‘freedom’ works (the land of the free). If a child constantly gets praise from his parents and told he is the best at everything he does he won’t ever make progress. He will just love his parents. There are many things wrong with the USA, healthcare, education, elderly population living under poverty line, medieval religious beliefs, financial disparity, gun laws, misuse of military, the president etc. but things aren’t going to change anytime soon because the people are convinced that everything is fine. So they wave their flags , tote their guns, tell everyone how great the USA is and continue to love their government despite the fact that their government is populated by sociopaths who will lie, cheat and even kill to achieve their means. The only people the USA really benefits are rich old white men. Everyone else has been duped.
        But yeah we all wanna come there right! Keep telling yourself that hon.

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        • Aethylfritha

          Im not saying YOU want to come here but millions of immigrants sure do. You can talk about old white men but pretty much anybody of any color, especially women, are better off here than in many countries i dont feel like naming. Were far from perfect but im glad i wasnt born in pakistan or saudi arabia or somalia.
          I do think plenty can be done to improve things. Dtop funding the military so much for one.

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  • Hubbard

    Do most republicans hate America?

    Denying Abortions even if the mom’s life is at stake, giving guns to kids for free and having daily school shootings, anti trans propaganda taught at school, videos of trump grabbing women by the pussy shown to kids, 70% death rates (the only thing certain other than tax) destruction of all hospitals, calling for the death of all arabs, no healthcare for anyone but criminals in power, supporting a President with a shady track record.

    You name it, they got it.

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    • Aethylfritha

      Most republicans i know are not anti abortion they just think people should have to pay for it if its out of convenience. I dont know anyone who thinks it shouldnt be allowed if a womans life is at risk. Thats crazy.

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  • DIO

    I haven't seen so much ignorance and stupidity in a post for a long time. And forced government healthcare? Wtf even is that?

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    • Boojum

      Haven't you heard? Britain, France and Sweden all have government-funded and controlled healthcare systems, and in every one of those countries you're expected to have treatment if you're diagnosed with a life-threatening disease! What's more, they don't let you pay for your care, no matter how much it costs. That's obviously contrary to God's will.

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      • Boogienights

        This is not true. There is no expectation at all. If you get sick you can get free public health care if you choose. If you dont want to its your choice. Most people dont want to be sick or die though so theres not even a need for an expectation. No idea where you heard that but its fake news. Its not actually free anyway because we pay for it with taxes. Many people have private health care because they prefer to be able to choose their doctor and have a private room and wait less time. With the public system only emergency surgeries have priority, everything else theres a waiting list. With private care you still end up with a bill. You have to pay the gap between the cost and the amount your insurance pays. However people do not end up in deep debt or go bankrupt like in the USA. The USA system is a fucking disgrace

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      • DIO

        I do like your sarcastic joke but there is a actually misconception. In France, you do have to pay to get treated and it can be free under certains circumstances. Otherwise, you get a partial refund but still have to pay something.

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      • Nikclaire

        "What's more, they don't let you pay for your care."

        Wow that's might white of them considering they use tax money, you know YOUR money, to pay for it. Government doesnt make money Booj. They collect it through taxation. I have a hard time believing you are this much of an imbecile. Seriously, are you being sarcastic??

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        • Aethylfritha

          Good point. They seem to forget.

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      • Boogienights

        Australia has a great public system.

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        • Nikclaire

          🤣🤣🤣🤣

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      • Nikclaire

        "you're expected to have treatment"

        That right there. Ummm my body my choice. Not a fucking beaurocrats.

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        • Boogienights

          Your body your choice so then why has your government still not decriminalised drugs?

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        • GaelicPotato

          Jesus.

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    • GaelicPotato

      A good system.

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  • Boojum

    Virtual army of straw-men there, brah.

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    • Bernie Sanders stated he wants to confiscate a large portion of guns.

      Democrat Governor agrees with late-term abortion.

      Joe Biden stated that unless an immigrant commits a "major crime" they should be kept in the US.

      Michael Moore sent a love letter to Iran over Soleimani.

      We all know Conservatives aren't behind the crazy introduction of trans subjects in schools.

      An argument can be made that most democrats disagree with those things stated but they weren't brought in by nobodies that happen to be democrats, they were started or stated by democrats that were elected, have power, and/or influence with other democrats.

      Literally not a straw-man argument.

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      • RoseIsabella

        Yes!

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        • I didn't get a response from either people I responded to with this so I assume they realize where they went wrong. Haha.

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          • RoseIsabella

            👍🏻

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      • Nikclaire

        Exactly correct.

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        • Yup. Took me two minutes to find the things I listed. I doubt I'll get a response in regards to the topic, but heyho.

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    • Nikclaire

      Wow, that's about the most idiotic response I have ever seen from you. I guess you have nothing to say in defense of the liberal dem party. You are usually so verbose and well spoken but when it comes to defending dems, well this is what you came up with. It says a lot.

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  • charli.m

    Exactly.

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  • Clunk42

    Every single thing you said in that first paragraph is massively unconstitutional.

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    • Nikclaire

      Liberals don't believe in the constitution.

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      • Clunk42

        Honestly, in my opinion, we should just wipe the government clean and start over. At this point, the government is so unconstitutional that that is the only sensical answer, from my perspective. People like to make the argument that "the world is changing," but that does not give the Federal government the right to bankrupt a man with legal fees just because they misinterpreted a law from another country. Nor does it give the state government the right to randomly search someone's house whenever they want just because the person uses a rabbit in a magic show. It also doesn't give them the right to bankrupt a woman for fixing a sewer drain, despite the fact that they said she could. These are all real stories of what happened to people. Currently, our laws are awful. If you'd like to know more about those stories, though, here's a video.

        https://youtu.be/IKVU7yXv75g

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        • noneoftheabove

          Another story I read yesterday was about a woman fighting charges for exposing her breasts in front of her step children. She is being charged with lewdness in her own home.Perfectly ok for a man to expose his chest but if a woman does it it’s lewd and illegal. Free the nipple I say. The female breast is a baby feeding organ. It’s men who have made them into a sex toy.

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        • Nikclaire

          I agree. There are so many laws in the U.S that no one person knows them all and given that ignorance of the law is no excuse, the government pretty much has carte blanche to destroy you if it sees fit.

          The second amendment gives us the right to rise up and start over but even saying that probably just got me on a watch list somewhere.

          It's way past time imho.

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  • Clunk42

    They're the very vocal minority.

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    • charli.m

      ...no. Try being informed for a change. You might enjoy it.

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      • Clunk42

        So you reject the idea that these people exist, despite the fact that they do? They are the vocal minority.

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        • charli.m

          Fuck me, learn some reading comprehension. Can you just, like...try? Just for once?

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          • Clunk42

            I'm not disagreeing with T1's comment. I'm just saying that they are the vocal minority of the democratic party. They are not most democrats, and they very well might be mentally ill.

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            • charli.m

              Ok on rereading, I was not completely right, either, and could have done with some reading comprehension too, sorry. I think the point I was aiming for was that that vocal minority of idiots is not on any one side of any argument, therefore they don't really count against anyone side.

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            • LloydAsher

              I agree with you. Charli M is just cheerleading for the leftists. Belittling those she doesnt like they are clueless children. Rather than people who have lived different lives and have come to a different conclusion on how the goverment should work.

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    • LloydAsher

      They are, especially on twitter. Unfortunately twitter has a lot of pull these days.

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  • MrMercury24

    Not all Democrats are bad, but the ones you're talking about definitely are.

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    • charli.m

      The imaginary ones?

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      • LloydAsher

        The 8% of the population that identify as far leftists. Who want to inact programs that have failed countless countries and states.

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        • noneoftheabove

          Extreme anything is unhealthy. Extreme left, extreme right. Both equally toxic.

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  • jodi1955

    i think democrats hate themself

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  • Aethylfritha

    No i dont like libtards.
    I also dont like super conservative freaks like those creepy senators who say rape isnt real. Cant anyone have sense?

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    • Buttloverboy

      Hy dear

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      • Aethylfritha

        Hi maybe show me your willie in 6 months! Lol

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  • Alegria

    They hate america as much as the average Republican does.

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  • Boogienights

    If a man dresses as a clown or an elephant or a wizard or any other kind of mythical creature in front of kids its ok but if he dresses as a woman the conservatives/christians freak out. The problem is in the narrow minds of the adults and nowhere else. They claim it will confuse the child. How is it anymore or less confusing than an adult dressed as an animal, witch, wizard etc. No one is forcing your kids to see drag queens and you have no right to tell other families how to raise their own children. Religion is nothing more than an excuse for your own prejudice.

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    • They're not remotely the same. When someone is dressing up as a clown, elephant, or a wizard they don't genuinely believe they are those things, they don't expect the world to identify them as those things (except for clowns because it's a job), and they don't involve irreversible treatment.

      If you don't understand that there is a difference between putting on a costume and a child being put on puberty blockers because teachers or parents brainwashed their child into believing something they would never of thought of on their own, possibly ruining their life later on, then that shows your narrow mindedness.

      This has nothing to do with religion, and if you think being a child's parent gives them moral authority to ruin their child's own life then that's on you, bro.

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      • Boogienights

        You clearly do not understand drag in the slightest. Drag queens are usually gay men. They do not want to be women. Its done purely as performance. You are completely ignorant of the fact that transgenderism and drag are two different things and so youre blurring the lines. When you decide to step outside of that tiny narrowminded redneck bubble you exist in and learn about the real world only then can you have an opinion. Until then youre really just talking out your arse and look like an bigoted idiot who knows nothing.

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        • Granted, I made a mistake there. I thought the OP mentioned trans, not drag until I took another look there.

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  • Nikclaire

    How about you try and make a rational argument on the threads topic instead of going after me? I realize there is no defending liberalism, but at least try.

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  • Nikclaire

    Because I know she lives in australia from other posts.

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  • jethro

    Not some of them. All of them do.

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  • d0esnormalmatter

    By in large I think yes. Of course their is exceptions but yeah I agree.

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    • LloydAsher

      Its around 8% of the general population that are far leftist. Around 39% of people identify as apart of the left. 25ish% identify as on the right. The rest are independents that everyday are getting closer and closer to moderate republicans. Not because of Republican values getting more moderate but because the far left is gaining more political power thus pushing literally the entire party further to the left than what most people want to do.

      It is because of this vast divide is the reason why perceptions of who is the majority is so skewed. Most democrats 15 years ago that wanted a border fence. Most of these democrats havent moved from their original position. Thus the republican party is growing with support from the recently politically homeless moderate left.

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      • d0esnormalmatter

        Haha great breakdown buddy. I agree 100%! The left is shooting themselves in the foot by becoming to extreme.

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        • Boogienights

          And the right are allowing the of shooting their own kids because they prefer to have guns than safety for children.

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          • Aethylfritha

            In europe they do it with machetes, bombs, acid. The problem is the violence not the method.

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            • noneoftheabove

              No. You’re wrong. Guns are way more effective and quick at killing. A psycho can mow down hundreds in seconds with a gun. A psycho with a knife couldn’t do nearly as much harm before being apprehended. So your point does not hold up at all.

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          • d0esnormalmatter

            Criminals will get guns whether it's legal or not. And I believe in the right to defend oneself. School shootings kill a lot less kids than fucking car crashes so why don't we regulate that first? American schools are suuuuuper safe.

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            • Boogienights

              You have a siege mentality. A defensive and paranoid attitude that others are hostile and you need a gun to protect yourself. When millions of people walk around armed in such an environment its just a disaster waiting to happen.

              In the USA there were 434 mass shootings in 2019. This averaged 1.19 mass shootings per day. In these shootings, 1,643 people were injured and 517 died, for a total of 2,160 victims. On top of this there are 22000 gun suicides every year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2019

              If you cannot see the link between guns and violence you are delusional. No other way to put it. Its a self perpetuating and reinforcing cycle of violence. Where I live there was not a single shooting in 2019 because the large majority of people do not have guns and do not live with a siege mentality. Many other countries are gun violence free. Look outside the toxic bubble you are living in.

              Criminals will always have weapons but they are a minority. The more people who drop the weapons the safer your community will be. I would rather be dead than live in such a state of fear. For you its just normal. The USA goes on and on about freedom. The way you live is not free.

              As far as car related deaths go, thats another issue and there is no reason why more than one issue cannot be worked on simultaneously. You seem to be saying that because there is issue B therefore issue A cannot be looked at. Its a fallacy. Just really a deflection away from the problem being discussed ie gun violence.

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          • Nikclaire

            Right because the government will protect you.

            If you awoke to a government official knocking at your door, what would your HONEST first thought be??? Fear, fuck, shit?? Or hey they came for a cup of joe?

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        • LloydAsher

          Problem is that conservitives know what is too far right. Unfortunately the left doesnt have a leash on what they consider too far left.

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          • d0esnormalmatter

            Haha someone gets their information from the same places I do.

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            • LloydAsher

              You watch Tim pool? Great independent reporter. Liberal libertarian. Milquetoast fence sitter. I like watching him freakout when the democrats do something stupid (often).

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