Can people get over gender dysphoria?

Asking for myself. I feel heartbroken that I wasn't born a girl, but at the same time I know objectively that the things I feel regarding gender are silly; I shouldn't feel this way, and I should stop being a bitch about it. I don't plan on ever transitioning. Is it possible to just get over it or am I just always gonna feel this way?

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  • Absolutely. I am glad that people are beginning to realise that all this trans ideology is harmful to the youth.

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  • I can't help wondering if life would be easier on people if we all had fewer expectations for different genders to do certain things. If that were the case, I wonder if gender dysphoria would cause so much distress.

    I spent my childhood wondering if I should have been a boy and feeling like I didn't deserve to be a girl, or like I wasn't a 'proper' girl. People didn't talk about that sort of thing in those days so the only time I really felt bad was when I saw a bunch of girls doing impossibly 'girly' things in groups, like whispering secrets and doing each other's hair. I would look at them then look at myself and feel like a sort of fraud. I also felt like an outsider in so many ways besides this that I didn't see changing genders as a solution that would make things better. It wasn't that I didn't want to be a girl: it was more that I didn't think I deserved to be one. In any case, the boys wouldn't have accepted me either: I wasn't a fast runner and I cried too much.

    Life has taught me so far that it helps to not think about what I'm doing as 'girly' or 'boyish', but just to do it, and if I like it then it becomes a 'me' thing, irrespective of what gender people 'assign' to it. I have seen women so masculine-looking that I thought they were male, and to me, they were very, very beautiful.

    Could that constitute a helpful addition to your collection of perspectives?

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  • HSTS: accept that you're gay
    AGP: stop watching porn
    "real" gender dysphoria: IDK, self-assess on this one, but definitely don't mutilate your body. You aren't the opposite gender periodt. Saying that dysphoria means you should transition is the same as saying that being anorexic means you should lose weight.

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  • The fact you don’t plan on transitioning is a good start. The data on mental health looks significantly more grim for transgender people who either have transitioned or want to.

    As far as how gender dysphoria might be overcome, sadly there’s not much research on that because of the times we live in. What I would say is working on identifying with your body (rather than having a mental identity that’s separate from the body) and building your self esteem so that you’re confident in being your actual physical self.

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  • Quit consuming mainstream media, get off social media, just stick to cross dressing in the bedroom if thats your fetish. Remember you'll look ridiculous as a woman. Everyone will be able to tell. You'll never pass. There's a very good chance you'll regret it later and then you'll be thrown under the bus and shamed by all those who had encouraged you to do it.

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    • Your so full of shit lol.

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      • Look at this

        http://lookwhatyoudidtoyourkid.com/gallery

        Theres no coming back from that and theres hundreds of videos of people regreting in interviews and no one in the LGBT gives a shit about them.

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        • Lol yea ftms have it a bit rougher

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          • No neo"vaginas" are NASTY as hell, they smell like a colon, it's literally a festering wound that your body tries to close so you have to dilate 🤢 Let's not act like mtf transition isn't gross

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            • Lol except for the fact that about 95% of cannot afford srs. Transitioning is so much more than bottom surgery.

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        • I can handle animal gore but this goes too far for me. Sickening

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        • That's not true though, lots of LGB people hate transgenderism. #LGBdroptheT is a thing. /sperg

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        • Is that how they make salami?
          I'm never gonna eat that again.

          (Oh, and that one picture looks like an edited scene from Dumbo.)

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    • I get what you’re saying, but other than being short trans men look more like a man than trans girl looks like girl.

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  • You'll probably get over it as you grow.

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  • Some can, some cannot.

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  • I got over it by transitioning

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  • If this site has taught me one thing it's that it's very easy to ignore a problem and deny that it exists if you don't personally experience it. I appreciate that you have a fresh perspective on this rather than simply "trans people aren't real and I'm going to ignore all of the evidence proving that it's possible because of my personal bias" or "let me just ignore the fact that I could potentially be wrong about me being trans and undergo all kinds of surgeries and medications because the internet told me to".

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    • I think it is very real. But I also thing ppl treat it as a fad. It confusing not just the youth but ppl who haven't found them selves.
      I agree. Turn your phone off, and avoid ppl that talk about it. Go into the woods/farm/nature and hide from the world for a bit. Clear your head.

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  • You don't objectively know that your feelings are silly, that's just an opinion you have. At the end of the day, you're going to die. The only real regret you'll have then is not doing everything you could to achieve happiness, not that some people thought you were silly. I'm not saying to definitely transition, just that you really shouldn't stop yourself from doing things you think would make you happy just because you think it'd be silly.

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  • there is no real permanent cure for gender dysphoria, even people who have fully transitioned sometimes still get gender dysphoria from time to time however transitioning does vastly improve a trangender persons quality of life, mental health and overall well-being. transgender people are more likely to feel depression and commit suicide when hormone therapy/surgery are unavailable for them for whatever reason.

    depending on how long you've been feeling like this and your age it could just simply be a phase and pass in time, i wouldn't worry too much about it unless you've been feeling like this for years or something then i'd consider talking to a therapist.

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    • “ however transitioning does vastly improve a trangender persons quality of life, mental”

      Not at all. Transitioning or wanting to transition predicted a higher suicide attempt rate than not transitioning in Haas et al. (2014), Chen et al. (2019), and Rood et al. (2015). Not transitioning only predicted a higher suicide rate in people who wanted to transition but couldn’t for whatever reason (ie. it was their belief that transitioning would help them, not that it actually would).

      You should actually read the research before you make irresponsible claims like this.

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      • https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6813817/

        "No theory-guided, systematic reviews of transgender suicide risk correlates exist."

        "Regarding social transitioning, living part-time as one’s gender identity reported low suicide attempt histories (Haas et al., 2014)"

        "In addition to advocating for policy change, mental health providers and researchers should invest in educating, training, and advocating for providing transgender-affirmative care among current and up-and-coming healthcare providers across disciplines (Haas et al., 2010)"

        "It is possible that individuals with a history of suicide attempts are more likely to seek to transition as an attempt to resolve significant dysphoria or external minority stress, which would cause some of the positive associations demonstrated here between transitioning, suicide ideation, and suicide attempt history."

        "The literature review indicated several minority stress experiences that could conceivably contribute to psychological pain and thus suicide ideation. These findings were consistent across studies of varying methodological quality. External stressors of gender-based violence, discrimination, stigma, rejection, lack of social support, nonaffirmation (e.g., Bauer et al., 2015; Kattari et al., 2016; Lehavot, et al., 2016; Perez-Brumer et al., 2017; Rood et al., 2015; Testa et al., 2017; Yüksel et al., 2017; c.f., Peta et al., 2013), and internal stressors of internalized stigma, expectations of rejection, and concealment of identity were associated with suicide ideation"

        "Findings regarding transition status were equivocal. Studies that examined these factors in relation to suicide ideation ranged from poor to fair in methodological quality, which reduces the strength of the conclusions drawn from these findings. Some work demonstrated that individuals who desired to or who had already begun to transition reported greater odds of suicide ideation than those who did not plan to transition (Rood et al., 2015; Terada et al., 2011). In contrast, one study found that transition steps of hormone therapy and having one or more identity-congruent documents was negatively associated with suicide ideation (Bauer et al., 2015). However, social transition status (e.g., living part- or full-time as identified gender identity) was not associated with suicide ideation (Bauer et al., 2015)."

        "First, physical, sexual, and verbal aggression victimization were consistently associated with suicide attempt history across many studies of varying methodological quality (Bauer et al., 2015; Clements-Nolle & Katz, 2006; Goldblum et al., 2012; Grossman, & D’Augelli, 2007; Haas et al., 2014; Maguen & Shipherd, 2010; Reisner et al., 2014; Sciacca, 2014; Seelman, 2016; Testa et al., 2012)."

        "These findings emphasize and expand upon policy and clinical recommendations made by previous authors (Haas et al., 2010; McNeil et al., 2016). The hardships experienced by transgender people at macro- and micro-levels of their environment suggest a clear need for policy implementation (McNeil et al., 2016). Along with these hardships are important static factors related to suicide ideation and attempts that warrant clinical recommendations regarding assessment and treatment of transgender individuals for suicide risk."

        "Systematic reviews have examined correlates within lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people (e.g., King et al., 2008; Matarazzo et al., 2014); however, these reviews do not evaluate correlates that may be unique to transgender individuals’ experiences. Three systematic reviews have focused on suicide ideation and behavior solely among transgender people; however, only two of these reviews have explored correlates of such thoughts and behavior, with none reviewing separately correlates of thoughts and behaviors (Marshall et al., 2015; McNeil et al., 2017). Marshall et al. (2015) systematically reviewed the literature from January 1966 to April 2015 on prevalence rates of suicide ideation, attempts, and deaths among transgender people. This study appeared to review correlates of these events in an unsystematic fashion, finding that rates generally remained the same regardless of transition status (i.e., hormone therapy, gender affirming surgery) and seemed related to environmental (e.g., social support) and mental health factors."

        "External minority stress External minority stress, defined as violence, discrimination, harassment, and rejection experienced related to one’s minority identity (Meyer, 2003), was consistently positively associated with suicide ideation, at least at the bivariate level. This finding was demonstrated consistently across studies, regardless of methodological quality, lending strong support towards this association. External minority stress experiences such as nonaffirmation, discrimination, and stigma positively associated with suicide ideation (Bauer, Scheim, Pyne, Travers, & Hammond, 2015; Lehavot, Simpson, & Shipherd, 2016; Testa, Michaels, Bliss, Rogers, Balsam, & Joiner, 2017; c.f., Peta, Rincon, Gotelli, Testa, Sciacca, & Balsam, 2013)."

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        • The first part of your wall of text is just abstracts and discussion sections (ie. author’s hopes and dreams). I only care about what the data says not the author’s hopes and dreams.

          As far as bullying, discrimination, social support, etc., the effect sizes for social support are consistently either very small or not even statistically significant. Bullying/discrimination also has small effect sizes and so does not explain the vast majority of the variance in trans suicide rates… The relationship between bullying in general (not just of trans people) and suicide risk is barely even causal.

          Studies of discrimination and even studies of extreme violent or criminal discrimination against trans people find tiny and often statistically insignificant effect sizes with respect to suicide attempt risk. Here are some of them:

          Goldblum et al. (2012) OR = 3.8

          Marshall et al. (2016) OR = 2.1

          Trujillo et al. (2017) b = 0.17

          Maguen et al. (2010) b = 0.04

          Rood et al. (2015) OR = 1.83

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  • Transition. Ignore what these ignorant transphobes are saying. They literally want trans people to die. Nothing they say matters. So ignore these bigots and transition.

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  • Take some antipsychotics.

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