Am i stupid for planning to move to europe

I am 17 and one day want to move to England. I asked for advice on whether or not I should and the responses made me feel as if I'm stupid for even thinking about doing it.
Stuff like:
"how do you think you're going to go there with no money?"
"what about your family? you're just going to leave them behind?"
"you really think you're going to get a job there?"
"why can't you just work on a better life in the US instead of moving somewhere you'll never integrate?"

I feel very strongly about going there but after hearing the backlash I feel stupid for even suggesting it. I have no money, I have no career, and I have no future. Even if I stay in the US I will have nothing. I don't know what to do or where I'm going or whether I should give a shit or not anymore.
This is the only thing that has excited me in a long time
People have talked about living your life and exploring but I'm doomed to a stupid life of nothingness because I don't have the resources to do anything.

I will be forced to slave away for the rest of my life while someone better and smarter than me will be traveling and experiencing a world I will never get to see and it makes me so angry.

Should I even waste my time dreaming about this?

Voting Results
92% Normal
Based on 12 votes (11 yes)
Help us keep this site organized and clean. Thanks!
[ Report Post ]
Comments ( 11 )
  • Grunewald

    My advice: you need to have a right to reside - and right to work, if you plan on working. Check the gov.uk website to see what that involves. I'd advise that you get a job sorted out before you come. You can change it later, but if you've no recourse to public funds (which I think you can't really get unless you're either British or a refugee or fulfill some strict criteria) you won't get unemployment benefit.

    Google how to get an NHS number (public health service). You might need to be a resident for a few years to get one, but once you do you'll have free(ish) state healthcare.

    When you get here, rock up at a church if you get stuck and have no helpful contacts. The Church of England serves the local community and might help. It's a Christian church but is very inclusive because it's the official state church, and is responsible for a lot of charity stuff - though it's by no means the Salvation Army. Each individual church is 'responsible' for a different parcel of the country, called a 'parish'. Parishes vary, but they ought to help you without expecting faith, membership or anything else in return if you were to turn up on a Sunday in dire need...

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • JustSomeGuy77

    Probably should wait to see how the Migrant Crisis unfolds

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • Pumpurrnickel

    If have the money to move there and think you can live there, go ahead. In no way is moving to another country stupid, unless you're completely unprepared.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • S12207

    If you don't go you will regret it. I made that mistake and actually let other people talk me out of it. You can always come back, but at least you won't live in regret and resentment. Its your life and you do what you want with it. As far as money goes my best friend went to Amsterdam with a backpack and a very small amount of money and is now happily married and has a successful career.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • KiwiWisdom

    You shouldn't insult yourself because you have a dream. Go watch Disney's Tangled until it sticks. Just try to actually work out a realistic plan to make your dream come true too. You know that old saying about the journey, not the destination? Your life sounds like it's literally that at the moment. It doesn't matter if it takes twenty years for you to move down the road - it matters if you spent those twenty years moving toward what you care about. You obviously care, now go do! Research flights, learn the history, get a job on a boat that sails there, do anything, just don't miss out on life because you feel too beat up to try. Also sounds dumb to people online? Who cares! I'm some dude online and my anonymous opinion is just as ridiculous. Yours is the only one that matters for your life.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • nikkiclaire

    Well I immigrated from Australia to the U.S as a kid, probably because my father was trying to run away from himself.

    If there is one thing I learned from that, is he may have traveled far, but he never got away from his demons.

    There is an old saying, "wherever you go, there you are."

    I believe you should be able to live wherever your heart desires sweety. Go and live your dream. Just remember that you can't escape yourself and a new land may offer new opportunities, but it won't do you any good if you aren't able to make the most of them.

    I'm poor. I grew up white trash and I am trying to escape at 19, through education. I've lived in many places and many states and I recently moved again. My demons, like my dads, still follow me.

    Best of luck to you.

    Oh, and jobs are everywhere, I currently have 3 😂.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • rayb12

    You're 17 you can do literally anything. I didn't try to or get a job until I was 19 so you are ahead.

    Its really easy to get work and then not spend any money and buy a plane ticket..

    But you should go on some travel websites and talk to people there. And if they say you need money find another site..

    Its most unwise to continue talking about your dreams with people who are not supportive.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
      -
    • rayb12

      But the same thing happens to me whenever I'm back in my hometown I get in this negative mindset again because I'm surrounded by people who never travel but once I'm on the road again I don't worry again.

      Maybe I should share my story a bit.

      When I was your age I dropped out of highschool then went back and graduated. Then went away to college and dropped out before I finished one year.

      That summer I went on my first trip around America which was a tour and was paid for, but gave me a taste for traveling.

      I got a job for just 3 months working part time at a music store and then quit to travel for another few months. Then that spring and summer I lived at home and didn't work. Then I left again and went wwoofing for a whole year, so I just paid for bus tickets. I did work at an oil change shop in the middle of that, but was just breaking even from the money to move out there. Then I lived at home for 2 years. I worked 4 months at a full time job. And had another job I worked at twice a week that lasted 8 months, I worked a seasonal job that was almost full time for a month, and then I worked a job very occasionally for 7 months.
      Then I left almost a year ago traveling for 2 and a half months around the country and then flew to Asia and went to a few countries here for 4 months and then went home for a month and then moved back to Asia 4 and a half months ago.

      Every job I worked was minimum wage or a couple dollars more. I didn't have experience in anything.

      I just never spent money on cigarettes or alcohol or drugs or clothes or idk whatever other shit people buy.

      England is expensive, but tickets there can be very cheap. At certain times may be cheaper to fly to Oslo and then get another flight there depending on where you're coming from.

      Using helpx or workaway or wwoof are some ways to not need to spend once you're there.

      And you'll see what the visa situation is to actually get a work permit or gain citizenship there.

      Also there are always ways to make things cheaper.

      Comment Hidden ( show )
  • Nickvey

    im sure a visit is lawful provided you have a passport but migration to England not for US citizens. I can not find a legal route a US citizen can stay in the united Kingdom looking on the internet. In fact Americans are not even on the list of lawful migrants.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • Boojum

    Just dreaming about doing something is a waste of time. If you truly want to do something, you should try to take at least one little step in that direction every day.

    Like you, I was born and grew up in the USA. I was younger than you are now when I first had a vague idea of living in Britain, and things worked out so I first arrived in Scotland when I was 22. I've lived in Europe ever since (just over forty years now), most of that in Britain, but a few years in Italy.

    I'd like to say this was all the result of a meticulously plotted plan, but it was more a matter of things just falling in place. I joined the US Navy when I was 19, ended up in a specialty where the only overseas shore postings were either Guam, Spain or Scotland, and then worked hard in technical schools to make sure I got my first choice. While in the Navy, I married a British woman, and stayed here after discharge.

    I'm not recommending the military as a way to see the world. The downsides of being in the service are considerable, and you often don't have much choice of where you end up. Still, given that your options at the moment are apparently very limited, maybe it's something you could at least look into.

    I don't know why you find Britain particularly fascinating. The UK, like every other country in the world, has its fair share of problems as well as its positive aspects. Since you've never been here, a logical first step would be to figure out a way to visit on vacation and find out how the image of the country in your head compares to the reality.

    With some planning, this wouldn't necessarily cost you a fortune, but Britain isn't really a low-cost vacation destination for people coming from the USA, and a visit obviously would cost something.

    An extremely low-cost way of exploring the country would be by using Google Earth. It has very good street-level coverage of Britain, and while it's not the same as actually being here, you could learn a lot by doing virtual drives around the place and exploring random corners.

    Immigration to Britain isn't easy for Americans these days. Even Americans who are married to Brits can have problems, because the government introduced new rules a few years back requiring British spouses to have a substantial income before their spouses are allowed into the country to live permanently. If you're not married to a Brit, you need to be either independently wealthy or sponsored by a company for a work visa.

    While I understand why you've been annoyed by the negative reactions you've had, they do unfortunately raise some valid points. Although you wouldn't have much problem communicating with British people, the culture would take some adjusting to, not everyone here views Americans in general with total approval, you would need to support yourself somehow, and you would be a long way from home.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
      -
    • Should I just not do it since people are discouraging me and its so unlikely?

      The reason why I want to go there is because I look around my current environment and feel hopeless in my or anyone else's future.
      I want a breath of fresh air. When you grow up in a certain place you meet a lot of different people, but from my perception they don't act drastically different from each other. I'm afraid that if I stay it won't matter what I do because I will still feel just as tired of people as I did yesterday, and that kills me.
      I am desperate for change, adversity, and adventure. I want to feel exhilarated to be alive rather than tired, I want to jump out of bed instead of stumble.

      Why England? I couldn't tell you. What I can say is that when I see a bit of England (or a bit of Europe, for that matter) I feel a tinge of excitement that I never felt for my own country. Whenever anyone talks about Europe it sounds like some kind of paradise on Earth. I know it sounds dumb, but that's how I feel.

      I want to believe that there is something else out there, that it isn't just the same song on repeat. You always here about how much nicer things are "over there"; lower crime, progressive people, smarter ideas, more dependable government, less corruption, and an overall better everything. It isn't perfect there,I know. Far from it, and with their own problems, but a hell of a lot better than here.

      I know that what I do isn't going to matter much either way; I'm still poor, still miserable, and still lonely. The difference between a future there and a future here is that at least there is a chance to make something more out of my time than I would here. Isn't that enough of a reason?

      (sorry for ranting)

      Comment Hidden ( show )