...What? How does homophobia come in to this in any way? The anus is not biologically meant for penetration, that is just a fact. I never said it can't be used, just that it is not supposed to be, and that if forced, it is far more painful.
There is a difference between forced anal sex and anal sex.
Usually there are preparations to make it easier to penetrate the anus when anal sex is used. A rapist is not going to use these preparations before raping someone.
Only if someone has originally had anal sex on a frequent basis, would it be less painful than someone that hasn't. The majority of people don't do anal, and even then, without the preparations and how anal sex is done, if forced without done correctly, even if having anal sex frequently, will still cause more pain than vaginal rape.
The fact that the vast majority of men have not tried anal penetration of themselves, their anus is not going to have experienced it, and so the anus would be stretched, causing more pain, where as the vagina is designed to fit an erect penis, and so would not feel the same pain as part of the body not meant to be stretched.
Stop jumping to conclusions. The anus was not meant for sex, just like the mouth wasn't. That doesn't mean that they can't make good ways of sexual pleasure when "properly" done, which again, a rapist is not going to properly do.
It's like how oral is also pleasuring, but if not done correctly (such as leaving the penis in someone's throat and holding them there), it can cause people to choke. Why? Because the penis is not supposed to be in the throat, that doesn't mean it can't be used as a method of pleasure when "done correctly".
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"One, child rape isnt part of the original conversation and 2, even if it was, any kind of penetration involving a kid would fucking hurt like a bitch because they aren't fully developed or meant to have sex with anyone."
1. Neither was homophobia, but that is besides the point. You have said that "all" rape is equal, and so "all" types of rapes are included in the topic.
2. Exactly, the chil's body is not developed to have sex, so if they had sex in that way, it would hurt. Just like the anus is not developed to take penetration.
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No, all rapes are as bad as one another, it's still the violent act of ruining someone's life and physically forcing them into a sexual act they dont want. When a woman is raped, there's a possibility that she gets pregnant, a guy cant get pregnant at all, but just because it was up his ass, doesn't make his rape worse than the woman's.
You have done nothing to support your point, you have only repeated yourself.
I am not saying rape is not bad, it is. I am saying there are worse forms of rape, like I explained.
Yes, it can ruin someone's life, but if a man is raped anally, he would have gone through a more painful experience due to being penetrated anally, which hurts more than being raped vaginally where the body part was designed to be penetrated. They would also have to deal with the social stigma of homosexuality, which does exist regardless of if it should exist or not. On top of all of this, he would have to also deal with the same thing female victims of rape would have to deal with, only with the added on parts women would not have to deal with by being raped by a man vaginally. So he has all of the normal elements of a rape victim plus the extended elements of being a victim under the reasons explained.
Again, you simply say "just because" and have no proof to back up your claim. If you are just going to keep stating that thinking that if you say it enough times with nothing to support the statement that I will change my mind, then you are mistaken.
If you really cannot understand that there is a difference between being penetrated in an area not designed for penetration and being penetrated in an area designed for penetration, then you are ignorant and clearly will not waver your opinion despite the facts displayed, which makes me question continuing this conversation.
Yes, a woman can become pregnant, but with so many birth control options "after" getting pregnant, it is not much of an issue. All she needs to do is get the morning after pill.
On a switch note, if a man is raped by a woman, he has no rights. That woman can have the child and the man can be forced to pay for the child that was made due to her raping him.
As a matter of fact, a fifteen year old that was raped by a woman has to pay child support now that he is an adult.
So this scenario, once again, harms men more, because they can actually have to "pay" their rapist because they were raped.
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"Okay look, I never said all crimes are equally as bad, you're just assuming that. Of course a thief isnt as bad as a rapist or a murderer. It's stupid to think they are. Some people have to steal to survive but rape and murder are just evil acts people do because they can."
I never said you did, I was implying it is what your points imply.
That's going on to a different issue, so not addressing this one.
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"Some people commit crimes just to get behind bars because in some countries prisoners get a better quality of life than those who dont have a big income of money.
Why does a rapist or murderer deserve a better quality of life than what they can get on the outside? That's just ridiculous."
"Some" do this, that doesn't mean that the rapist or murderer would. This actually depends on the prison. Most would not do this because of the risk of being in an environment with hardened criminals that most likely would be raping inmates aswell.
You are trying to condone murder for a lesser crime, which is what the above point was about, trying to have a harsher crime put on someone for a lesser crime.
If we were to comply with this, then we would have to comply with this happening with all aspects of crime.
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"Rape is as bad as murder, in fact in ways, it's worse. Because the victim has to live with the mental scars and the after effects for their whole damn lives, people who get murdered, while tragic dont have to suffer that pain for years and even decades on end."
No, it's not. Murder takes away the chance to heal, takes away the chance to live again, rape does not. Yes, they have to live with what happened, but they also get the chance to overcome their victimization, murder victims do not.
Rape is not as bad as murder. As a rape victim myself, from a young age, I know what it's like to be raped, and I would rather be raped again than be murdered.
So you are telling me that being civil and not trying to fix a problem with murder is more barbaric than thinking "here is a problem. Kill it"? No, trust me, when it comes to civility, you lack it.
That's exactly what you're doing yourself.
Despite the difference in the area's been penetrated, which I never said I dont understand, it doesn't make any difference to what act is been committed.
Just because it hurts more to be anally raped which woman can be put through too, doesn't mean that the very sin been committed is worse than the same act with less pain involved. That's what i'm saying, so stop been so ignorant to my words and acting all high and mighty.
Oh, so you're basically saying that it's fine if a man rapes a woman and gets her pregnant because it's easy to get rid of the child or prevent the development of the baby?
That's not an issue that we can exactly argue about it because that's a government/court issue and while wrong, still happens. Both genders suffer with it. Do you think a woman wants the spawn of a rapist growing inside her?
The man never has to go through the trauma of giving birth to the thing created from rape, while it's bad he can be forced to pay child support for the child, that's not nearly as bad as carrying it in the womb for 9 months and having to go through childbirth then possibly giving the thing he brought into the world be taken away from him.
That's your opinion, you'd rather be raped again than murdered but not all rape victims are going to feel that way, murder victims cant heal you're right but rape victims carry mental scars that last their lifetime, while yes they can heal and put it behind them, it doesn't mean it doesn't effect them in some way.
Look around you, problems dont fix or just go away by throwing someone in jail and hoping they'll see the error of their ways, you eliminate the problem, that's one less problem to fester and become worse. Yeah, it's pretty evil and cold hearted to murder but some people dont deserve to live at all.
The death sentence was created for a reason. Prisoners strip themselves of all human rights the moment they do something as bad as murder or rape or whatever else.
Giving them back to them by allowing them to live and expecting them to suddenly realize what they've done isnt going to solve any problems, it just creates more.
Getting rid of the problem all together doesn't.
And if you think i'm barbaric simply because I prefer not to let evil people get away with their crimes so they can live long lives behind bars rather than killing them, then just thank yourself lucky you weren't born back in the Victorian era or even earlier in history, because the death sentence is tame compared to how they punished people.
So your mentality here is that how a crime is committed means nothing? Someone shot in the hand is equal to someone shot in the gut because they were both shot?
Just because they went through the same crime does not mean they went through the same methods of the crime put upon them. You clearly do not understand this.
I know what you are saying. You have this idea that I am not understanding. I know exactly what you are saying. You think that someone that goes through the same crime as someone else went through the same ordeal and couldn't face a worse experience simply due to it being the same crime.
I know exactly what you are saying, what you are saying it wrong, though. Saying that "I" am the ignorant one for saying that having an experience more painful than someone that went through the same thing in a less painful matter, is ignorant.
I'm not acting high and mighty, I am acting rational.
"Oh, so you're basically saying that it's fine if a man rapes a woman and gets her pregnant because it's easy to get rid of the child or prevent the development of the baby?"
Where did I at all say that? This is starting to irritate me now. You know you have no points, and so you are resorting to trying to make it seem like I have said things I haven't just so you can feel like you have made some sort of point.
No, I never said a woman that falls pregnant due to being raped is fine, nowhere did I say or imply that. What I said is that there are methods to prevent going through that pregnancy, so it's not "as bad" as you were trying to imply, as if women "must" go through the pregnancy when they don't have to.
"The man never has to go through the trauma of giving birth to the thing created from rape, while it's bad he can be forced to pay child support for the child, that's not nearly as bad as carrying it in the womb for 9 months and having to go through childbirth then possibly giving the thing he brought into the world be taken away from him."
Neither does the woman, like I explained. She can use the morning after pill, and so on. The only reason she would have to give birth to the child is if she has chosen to keep the child, which means she wasn't "forced" to give birth to the child.
So it's not at all the same. The woman can choose not to have to carry the child if she does not want to, which even then she is giving birth to a child, where as the person paying child support is paying his "rapist". The woman has the choice to keep the child or not, she is not forced to have that child, where as the man is forced to pay child support to their rapist with no choice of not paying, for eighteen years.
So yes, it is worse, because women get the choice, men don't. Women get the "choice" of carrying the child for "nine months", men get "no choice" in paying their "rapist" for "eighteen years".
"That's your opinion, you'd rather be raped again than murdered but not all rape victims are going to feel that way, murder victims cant heal you're right but rape victims carry mental scars that last their lifetime, while yes they can heal and put it behind them, it doesn't mean it doesn't effect them in some way."
And that's your opinion that rape is worse. If you would rather be a victim that takes away all choice, all chance, over being a victim of something that you can overcome and live your life, then that's your choice, but I won't say it is a smart one.
"Look around you, problems dont fix or just go away by throwing someone in jail and hoping they'll see the error of their ways, you eliminate the problem, that's one less problem to fester and become worse. Yeah, it's pretty evil and cold hearted to murder but some people dont deserve to live at all."
A lot of people stop crime, a lot of people don't. Yes, throwing them in prison does make a difference, because they are locked away from society, which is the whole point of prison.
The problems with this is that prisons do not have systems to help criminals change, they simply put them in there and leave them there, in which can just make them worse off, even if you were in there for a small crime.
The prison systems need a way to change people, not kill them.
The death sentence are for people that murder continuously, not rapists. Not everyone agrees with the death sentence.
By giving them a chance to see the error of their ways makes them people that can contribute to society. So yes, it can help. Doing bad things in the past does not mean you can't do good things in the future, if actually changed.
Could you see how barbaric people would be if they ran by your reasoning? "This person is a problem to me. I should kill him, that will solve the problem".
"Also, the man has to also deal with the whole stigma of homosexual acts put upon him."
Your direct quote. What's so wrong with homosexuals?
If the anus wasn't meant to be penetrated (I'm not saying by force, i'm saying just in general) then why is the male g-spot (perineum) located in the anus?
A rapist isnt going to make preparations to rape a woman ether, just because anal rape might hurt more (Which hasn't even been studied as fact) doesn't mean it's any worse of an act to rape someone anally than in any other way. Rape is rape, all different kinds are as bad as one another.
Wait what? So you're saying that if done correctly oral can be pleasurable which I understand since it's true but you've also just said above it that the mouth wasn't designed for the penis to be inserted into right?
Yet you also claim the same goes for a man's anus so why is it you fail to mention that t can be pleasurable if done correctly as well?
Uh.. You're forgetting one thing. Both genders were raped. it was both rape, meaning both go through the same damn experience and the same damn thing. The social/political views of society dont add to their pain and trauma.
"What's wrong with homosexuals". Nothing is wrong wit it to me, that doesn't mean there isn't a stigma attached to it. Men being shamed for being homosexual is still something that happens.
Biology is not something that is all planned out. Although the male g-spot (not looked it up, I will assume you are correct) is "in" the anus, that does not mean that the actual anus itself is designed for penetration.
Anal rape causes more pain, because the anus is not designed to stretch like the vagina. If there is no study for it, it's because it is too much of an obvious fact.
You clearly are not trying to look for truth or reason here, so I am stopping here. All you are doing is repeating the same thing over and over with different words, and I lack the patience.
If something has "more" of an effect, be it physical pain or so on, then it "is" going to be worse, as it has "more" pain involved. "More, more, more, more". How is this not getting through to you?
I am starting to believe this is you knowing that anal rape is worse, but you want to preserve the idea that vaginal rape is just as bad to ensure nobody can be seen as more of a victim than a female rape victim, that is what I am getting from you here.
Yes, I am not responding aftger this. You clearly cannot comprehend anything that is being said. I said before that the anus can be penetrated if done "correctly" to prepare it, that doesn't mean that it's not painful, just less painful when properly done until it is done frequently, which again you need certain preperations for it when you do it even if done frequently. Fact is, the majority have not done it at all, let alone do it frequently, and just because if something is done correctly to ensure pleasure, does not mean that when forced and not done correctly, that it is incredibly painful.
The same goes for medicine. If you take the right amount, it helps, if you take too much, it kills.
"it was both rape, meaning both go through the same damn experience and the same damn thing. The social/political views of society dont add to their pain and trauma."
I am finding it extremely hard not to burst out with a ton of insults due to your reasoning.
Just because both were raped does not mean they went through the same experiences. If a woman is raped vaginally, it is not the same as a man being raped anally. I already explained why, and there has been nothing you have said that proves those reasons wrong.
Yes, social aspects to add to their problems. Incase you aren't aware, people kill themselves due to all sorts of social views upon them.
You clearly have an agenda, and I have gotten to a point in life where I realize arguing with someone such as yourself, who already have their own conclusion, despote if it complies with facts and reason or not, is a waste of time. You already have your conclusion, you do not want to see the truth or fact of the issue, you just want to see "your opinion" be seen as truth or fact, and that is obvious.
As a result, and as I was instructed would be best to do in these situations by someone I know who is quite the genius, I can see what he means about these people and why debating with them will never work, because they won't accept anything that doesn't comply with what they want to hear, so that it wouldn't matter if you are right or not, because they are not concerned on if something is truth or not, they are only concerned on how they can make themselves seem correct.
So, I responded demonstrating that I can infact respond to you (just incase you use the "I am right, which is why you aren't responding excuse), but I am choosing not to.
This is the last time I am responding to you here. You can't comprehend these things, you don't understand the differences in how an action can cause different effects if caused in different areas, or that there are different problems if you are a different group of people all together.
You have a very, very narrow view on the issues in the world.
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...What? How does homophobia come in to this in any way? The anus is not biologically meant for penetration, that is just a fact. I never said it can't be used, just that it is not supposed to be, and that if forced, it is far more painful.
There is a difference between forced anal sex and anal sex.
Usually there are preparations to make it easier to penetrate the anus when anal sex is used. A rapist is not going to use these preparations before raping someone.
Only if someone has originally had anal sex on a frequent basis, would it be less painful than someone that hasn't. The majority of people don't do anal, and even then, without the preparations and how anal sex is done, if forced without done correctly, even if having anal sex frequently, will still cause more pain than vaginal rape.
The fact that the vast majority of men have not tried anal penetration of themselves, their anus is not going to have experienced it, and so the anus would be stretched, causing more pain, where as the vagina is designed to fit an erect penis, and so would not feel the same pain as part of the body not meant to be stretched.
Stop jumping to conclusions. The anus was not meant for sex, just like the mouth wasn't. That doesn't mean that they can't make good ways of sexual pleasure when "properly" done, which again, a rapist is not going to properly do.
It's like how oral is also pleasuring, but if not done correctly (such as leaving the penis in someone's throat and holding them there), it can cause people to choke. Why? Because the penis is not supposed to be in the throat, that doesn't mean it can't be used as a method of pleasure when "done correctly".
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"One, child rape isnt part of the original conversation and 2, even if it was, any kind of penetration involving a kid would fucking hurt like a bitch because they aren't fully developed or meant to have sex with anyone."
1. Neither was homophobia, but that is besides the point. You have said that "all" rape is equal, and so "all" types of rapes are included in the topic.
2. Exactly, the chil's body is not developed to have sex, so if they had sex in that way, it would hurt. Just like the anus is not developed to take penetration.
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No, all rapes are as bad as one another, it's still the violent act of ruining someone's life and physically forcing them into a sexual act they dont want. When a woman is raped, there's a possibility that she gets pregnant, a guy cant get pregnant at all, but just because it was up his ass, doesn't make his rape worse than the woman's.
You have done nothing to support your point, you have only repeated yourself.
I am not saying rape is not bad, it is. I am saying there are worse forms of rape, like I explained.
Yes, it can ruin someone's life, but if a man is raped anally, he would have gone through a more painful experience due to being penetrated anally, which hurts more than being raped vaginally where the body part was designed to be penetrated. They would also have to deal with the social stigma of homosexuality, which does exist regardless of if it should exist or not. On top of all of this, he would have to also deal with the same thing female victims of rape would have to deal with, only with the added on parts women would not have to deal with by being raped by a man vaginally. So he has all of the normal elements of a rape victim plus the extended elements of being a victim under the reasons explained.
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Again, you simply say "just because" and have no proof to back up your claim. If you are just going to keep stating that thinking that if you say it enough times with nothing to support the statement that I will change my mind, then you are mistaken.
If you really cannot understand that there is a difference between being penetrated in an area not designed for penetration and being penetrated in an area designed for penetration, then you are ignorant and clearly will not waver your opinion despite the facts displayed, which makes me question continuing this conversation.
Yes, a woman can become pregnant, but with so many birth control options "after" getting pregnant, it is not much of an issue. All she needs to do is get the morning after pill.
On a switch note, if a man is raped by a woman, he has no rights. That woman can have the child and the man can be forced to pay for the child that was made due to her raping him.
As a matter of fact, a fifteen year old that was raped by a woman has to pay child support now that he is an adult.
So this scenario, once again, harms men more, because they can actually have to "pay" their rapist because they were raped.
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"Okay look, I never said all crimes are equally as bad, you're just assuming that. Of course a thief isnt as bad as a rapist or a murderer. It's stupid to think they are. Some people have to steal to survive but rape and murder are just evil acts people do because they can."
I never said you did, I was implying it is what your points imply.
That's going on to a different issue, so not addressing this one.
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"Some people commit crimes just to get behind bars because in some countries prisoners get a better quality of life than those who dont have a big income of money.
Why does a rapist or murderer deserve a better quality of life than what they can get on the outside? That's just ridiculous."
"Some" do this, that doesn't mean that the rapist or murderer would. This actually depends on the prison. Most would not do this because of the risk of being in an environment with hardened criminals that most likely would be raping inmates aswell.
You are trying to condone murder for a lesser crime, which is what the above point was about, trying to have a harsher crime put on someone for a lesser crime.
If we were to comply with this, then we would have to comply with this happening with all aspects of crime.
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"Rape is as bad as murder, in fact in ways, it's worse. Because the victim has to live with the mental scars and the after effects for their whole damn lives, people who get murdered, while tragic dont have to suffer that pain for years and even decades on end."
No, it's not. Murder takes away the chance to heal, takes away the chance to live again, rape does not. Yes, they have to live with what happened, but they also get the chance to overcome their victimization, murder victims do not.
Rape is not as bad as murder. As a rape victim myself, from a young age, I know what it's like to be raped, and I would rather be raped again than be murdered.
So you are telling me that being civil and not trying to fix a problem with murder is more barbaric than thinking "here is a problem. Kill it"? No, trust me, when it comes to civility, you lack it.
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That's exactly what you're doing yourself.
Despite the difference in the area's been penetrated, which I never said I dont understand, it doesn't make any difference to what act is been committed.
Just because it hurts more to be anally raped which woman can be put through too, doesn't mean that the very sin been committed is worse than the same act with less pain involved. That's what i'm saying, so stop been so ignorant to my words and acting all high and mighty.
Oh, so you're basically saying that it's fine if a man rapes a woman and gets her pregnant because it's easy to get rid of the child or prevent the development of the baby?
That's not an issue that we can exactly argue about it because that's a government/court issue and while wrong, still happens. Both genders suffer with it. Do you think a woman wants the spawn of a rapist growing inside her?
The man never has to go through the trauma of giving birth to the thing created from rape, while it's bad he can be forced to pay child support for the child, that's not nearly as bad as carrying it in the womb for 9 months and having to go through childbirth then possibly giving the thing he brought into the world be taken away from him.
That's your opinion, you'd rather be raped again than murdered but not all rape victims are going to feel that way, murder victims cant heal you're right but rape victims carry mental scars that last their lifetime, while yes they can heal and put it behind them, it doesn't mean it doesn't effect them in some way.
Look around you, problems dont fix or just go away by throwing someone in jail and hoping they'll see the error of their ways, you eliminate the problem, that's one less problem to fester and become worse. Yeah, it's pretty evil and cold hearted to murder but some people dont deserve to live at all.
The death sentence was created for a reason. Prisoners strip themselves of all human rights the moment they do something as bad as murder or rape or whatever else.
Giving them back to them by allowing them to live and expecting them to suddenly realize what they've done isnt going to solve any problems, it just creates more.
Getting rid of the problem all together doesn't.
And if you think i'm barbaric simply because I prefer not to let evil people get away with their crimes so they can live long lives behind bars rather than killing them, then just thank yourself lucky you weren't born back in the Victorian era or even earlier in history, because the death sentence is tame compared to how they punished people.
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So your mentality here is that how a crime is committed means nothing? Someone shot in the hand is equal to someone shot in the gut because they were both shot?
Just because they went through the same crime does not mean they went through the same methods of the crime put upon them. You clearly do not understand this.
I know what you are saying. You have this idea that I am not understanding. I know exactly what you are saying. You think that someone that goes through the same crime as someone else went through the same ordeal and couldn't face a worse experience simply due to it being the same crime.
I know exactly what you are saying, what you are saying it wrong, though. Saying that "I" am the ignorant one for saying that having an experience more painful than someone that went through the same thing in a less painful matter, is ignorant.
I'm not acting high and mighty, I am acting rational.
"Oh, so you're basically saying that it's fine if a man rapes a woman and gets her pregnant because it's easy to get rid of the child or prevent the development of the baby?"
Where did I at all say that? This is starting to irritate me now. You know you have no points, and so you are resorting to trying to make it seem like I have said things I haven't just so you can feel like you have made some sort of point.
No, I never said a woman that falls pregnant due to being raped is fine, nowhere did I say or imply that. What I said is that there are methods to prevent going through that pregnancy, so it's not "as bad" as you were trying to imply, as if women "must" go through the pregnancy when they don't have to.
"The man never has to go through the trauma of giving birth to the thing created from rape, while it's bad he can be forced to pay child support for the child, that's not nearly as bad as carrying it in the womb for 9 months and having to go through childbirth then possibly giving the thing he brought into the world be taken away from him."
Neither does the woman, like I explained. She can use the morning after pill, and so on. The only reason she would have to give birth to the child is if she has chosen to keep the child, which means she wasn't "forced" to give birth to the child.
So it's not at all the same. The woman can choose not to have to carry the child if she does not want to, which even then she is giving birth to a child, where as the person paying child support is paying his "rapist". The woman has the choice to keep the child or not, she is not forced to have that child, where as the man is forced to pay child support to their rapist with no choice of not paying, for eighteen years.
So yes, it is worse, because women get the choice, men don't. Women get the "choice" of carrying the child for "nine months", men get "no choice" in paying their "rapist" for "eighteen years".
"That's your opinion, you'd rather be raped again than murdered but not all rape victims are going to feel that way, murder victims cant heal you're right but rape victims carry mental scars that last their lifetime, while yes they can heal and put it behind them, it doesn't mean it doesn't effect them in some way."
And that's your opinion that rape is worse. If you would rather be a victim that takes away all choice, all chance, over being a victim of something that you can overcome and live your life, then that's your choice, but I won't say it is a smart one.
"Look around you, problems dont fix or just go away by throwing someone in jail and hoping they'll see the error of their ways, you eliminate the problem, that's one less problem to fester and become worse. Yeah, it's pretty evil and cold hearted to murder but some people dont deserve to live at all."
A lot of people stop crime, a lot of people don't. Yes, throwing them in prison does make a difference, because they are locked away from society, which is the whole point of prison.
The problems with this is that prisons do not have systems to help criminals change, they simply put them in there and leave them there, in which can just make them worse off, even if you were in there for a small crime.
The prison systems need a way to change people, not kill them.
The death sentence are for people that murder continuously, not rapists. Not everyone agrees with the death sentence.
By giving them a chance to see the error of their ways makes them people that can contribute to society. So yes, it can help. Doing bad things in the past does not mean you can't do good things in the future, if actually changed.
Could you see how barbaric people would be if they ran by your reasoning? "This person is a problem to me. I should kill him, that will solve the problem".
"Also, the man has to also deal with the whole stigma of homosexual acts put upon him."
Your direct quote. What's so wrong with homosexuals?
If the anus wasn't meant to be penetrated (I'm not saying by force, i'm saying just in general) then why is the male g-spot (perineum) located in the anus?
A rapist isnt going to make preparations to rape a woman ether, just because anal rape might hurt more (Which hasn't even been studied as fact) doesn't mean it's any worse of an act to rape someone anally than in any other way. Rape is rape, all different kinds are as bad as one another.
Wait what? So you're saying that if done correctly oral can be pleasurable which I understand since it's true but you've also just said above it that the mouth wasn't designed for the penis to be inserted into right?
Yet you also claim the same goes for a man's anus so why is it you fail to mention that t can be pleasurable if done correctly as well?
Uh.. You're forgetting one thing. Both genders were raped. it was both rape, meaning both go through the same damn experience and the same damn thing. The social/political views of society dont add to their pain and trauma.
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"What's wrong with homosexuals". Nothing is wrong wit it to me, that doesn't mean there isn't a stigma attached to it. Men being shamed for being homosexual is still something that happens.
Biology is not something that is all planned out. Although the male g-spot (not looked it up, I will assume you are correct) is "in" the anus, that does not mean that the actual anus itself is designed for penetration.
Anal rape causes more pain, because the anus is not designed to stretch like the vagina. If there is no study for it, it's because it is too much of an obvious fact.
You clearly are not trying to look for truth or reason here, so I am stopping here. All you are doing is repeating the same thing over and over with different words, and I lack the patience.
If something has "more" of an effect, be it physical pain or so on, then it "is" going to be worse, as it has "more" pain involved. "More, more, more, more". How is this not getting through to you?
I am starting to believe this is you knowing that anal rape is worse, but you want to preserve the idea that vaginal rape is just as bad to ensure nobody can be seen as more of a victim than a female rape victim, that is what I am getting from you here.
Yes, I am not responding aftger this. You clearly cannot comprehend anything that is being said. I said before that the anus can be penetrated if done "correctly" to prepare it, that doesn't mean that it's not painful, just less painful when properly done until it is done frequently, which again you need certain preperations for it when you do it even if done frequently. Fact is, the majority have not done it at all, let alone do it frequently, and just because if something is done correctly to ensure pleasure, does not mean that when forced and not done correctly, that it is incredibly painful.
The same goes for medicine. If you take the right amount, it helps, if you take too much, it kills.
"it was both rape, meaning both go through the same damn experience and the same damn thing. The social/political views of society dont add to their pain and trauma."
I am finding it extremely hard not to burst out with a ton of insults due to your reasoning.
Just because both were raped does not mean they went through the same experiences. If a woman is raped vaginally, it is not the same as a man being raped anally. I already explained why, and there has been nothing you have said that proves those reasons wrong.
Yes, social aspects to add to their problems. Incase you aren't aware, people kill themselves due to all sorts of social views upon them.
You clearly have an agenda, and I have gotten to a point in life where I realize arguing with someone such as yourself, who already have their own conclusion, despote if it complies with facts and reason or not, is a waste of time. You already have your conclusion, you do not want to see the truth or fact of the issue, you just want to see "your opinion" be seen as truth or fact, and that is obvious.
As a result, and as I was instructed would be best to do in these situations by someone I know who is quite the genius, I can see what he means about these people and why debating with them will never work, because they won't accept anything that doesn't comply with what they want to hear, so that it wouldn't matter if you are right or not, because they are not concerned on if something is truth or not, they are only concerned on how they can make themselves seem correct.
So, I responded demonstrating that I can infact respond to you (just incase you use the "I am right, which is why you aren't responding excuse), but I am choosing not to.
This is the last time I am responding to you here. You can't comprehend these things, you don't understand the differences in how an action can cause different effects if caused in different areas, or that there are different problems if you are a different group of people all together.
You have a very, very narrow view on the issues in the world.