I wouldn't necessarily say that opinions need to be based on facts, but I do believe that accusations need to be based on facts. He calls it his opinion, but really it's more than an opinion, it's an accusation. I can see nothing in OP's post that would lead anyone to believe that she's exaggerating.
Sorry for the nitpicking there. I do think that it's bad enough that lots of abuse victims/survivors have to deal with gaslighting from their abusers, but sometimes they have to deal with attitudes of denial from their own families.
I want to let you know that I really respect, and appreciate your comments on this post! 👍🏻
I am confused! Is it a timing thing or what? You agree with me examples of suspected exaggeration in my other comment, but now you say you don't see anything in the post that would lead you to believe she is exaggerating.
That's weird, because the comments where I agree about the bit in regards to the lifting of 10 pounds was the most recent one I posted on this topic until this comment here.
You are most welcome. I honestly think my experience with my most recent ex-boyfriend has changed me a lot. I used to think how can people put up with physical abusers, and I'm glad that I didn't, but what I learned is that abusers don't start off with physical abuse, they start off with emotional, and verbal abuse, move on to gaslighting, and eventually graduate to physical violence.
It's truly diabolical the way abusers like to isolate their victims from support systems like family, friends, and any community organizations that the victim may be involved with. If the victim wants to work then the abuser wants the victim to stay home and be dependent on them, and if the victim is unable to work for some reason then the abuser instills it into the victim that the victim is lazy, and malingering. Whatever the abuser's wants to do the abuser will insist that it's wrong somehow, because it's all about control.
Your the one that took my opinion seriously to begin with! Also, in a situation like this, how are you supposed to use facts to back up your advice? There was a study done on women in this kind if abusive relationship and the had them try different rehab methods and one worked better than the others?
Why express an opinion (which as RoseIsabella has correctly pointed out is more of an accusation)if you didn't want it to be taken seriously?
And exactly, you don't have facts to back up anything, let alone an opinion, although it is possible to give advice based totally on a post without background facts.
Your last sentence/question makes no sense at all.
My last sentence was sarcasm. And If you look at my earlier replies to Rose, you can see the things OP said that made me suspect some exaggeration. And she agreed.
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To be taken seriously, opinions need to be based on facts
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I wouldn't necessarily say that opinions need to be based on facts, but I do believe that accusations need to be based on facts. He calls it his opinion, but really it's more than an opinion, it's an accusation. I can see nothing in OP's post that would lead anyone to believe that she's exaggerating.
Sorry for the nitpicking there. I do think that it's bad enough that lots of abuse victims/survivors have to deal with gaslighting from their abusers, but sometimes they have to deal with attitudes of denial from their own families.
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I am confused! Is it a timing thing or what? You agree with me examples of suspected exaggeration in my other comment, but now you say you don't see anything in the post that would lead you to believe she is exaggerating.
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That's weird, because the comments where I agree about the bit in regards to the lifting of 10 pounds was the most recent one I posted on this topic until this comment here.
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They both say 8 hours ago, but I just looked at them out of order I guess. Its all good.
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Right on.
Thank you for your "nitpicking", which is actually quite correct.
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You are most welcome. I honestly think my experience with my most recent ex-boyfriend has changed me a lot. I used to think how can people put up with physical abusers, and I'm glad that I didn't, but what I learned is that abusers don't start off with physical abuse, they start off with emotional, and verbal abuse, move on to gaslighting, and eventually graduate to physical violence.
It's truly diabolical the way abusers like to isolate their victims from support systems like family, friends, and any community organizations that the victim may be involved with. If the victim wants to work then the abuser wants the victim to stay home and be dependent on them, and if the victim is unable to work for some reason then the abuser instills it into the victim that the victim is lazy, and malingering. Whatever the abuser's wants to do the abuser will insist that it's wrong somehow, because it's all about control.
Your the one that took my opinion seriously to begin with! Also, in a situation like this, how are you supposed to use facts to back up your advice? There was a study done on women in this kind if abusive relationship and the had them try different rehab methods and one worked better than the others?
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Why express an opinion (which as RoseIsabella has correctly pointed out is more of an accusation)if you didn't want it to be taken seriously?
And exactly, you don't have facts to back up anything, let alone an opinion, although it is possible to give advice based totally on a post without background facts.
Your last sentence/question makes no sense at all.
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My last sentence was sarcasm. And If you look at my earlier replies to Rose, you can see the things OP said that made me suspect some exaggeration. And she agreed.