Not trying to be rude here, I'm genuinely drawing a blank (but it has been a long day...thinking is hard)...what benefits do we have that men want?
Just to clarify - I totally agree with the OP...I can't stand women who expect this of dates, etc, same as I can't stand when men I date try to pay for everything or treat me like I'm fragile - I earn, so why can't I pay my own way?
You have more than you think but I do agree that you don't have as much as males.
Abortions is one. If a female isn't ready to be a parent then she gets an abortion if she wants, a male doesn't get to escape parenthood if he doesn't want to be a father yet. I'm not saying males should get the choice for females to abort the baby, I'm saying males should get the choice to be a father or not while the choice to actualy abort the child is the females.
I made this point on a poll recently and females completely bashed it. I was implying equal treatment to males on the subject as much as females have choice on the matter.
I have to say, from what you have said that you seem like a good woman. More females should be like you.
Hopefully you understand my point on the abortion thing.
Yeah, that is a good point - guys do get 'trapped' with that one (not the word I'm looking for, a bit contentious potentially, but best I can come up with right this second), which really is more unfair on the child than anything, but that's another matter.
I'm kinda stuck on that one, cos I agree a man should have a choice whether or not he wants to be a father - but then I feel the child needs to have a father where possible (to me, two parents in a loving relationship is the ideal - obviously not always the reality. Of course a father forced into parenthood would potentially be resentful of the situation/child, so that's hardly an ideal situation...in which case, one could argue that no father would be better...)
Ah life is complex...
Anyway, I'm rambling now. But thanks for answering my question.
I also agree, that's one of the points I make on the whole subject. Why would a female want to have a child with someone that doesn't want their child? What effect would that have on the child knowing that they weren't wanted? Females don't get enough wrap for bringing children into this world when they aren't in a sustainable family.
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I'm yet to hear a female say that males should get a benefit that females have.
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Not trying to be rude here, I'm genuinely drawing a blank (but it has been a long day...thinking is hard)...what benefits do we have that men want?
Just to clarify - I totally agree with the OP...I can't stand women who expect this of dates, etc, same as I can't stand when men I date try to pay for everything or treat me like I'm fragile - I earn, so why can't I pay my own way?
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You have more than you think but I do agree that you don't have as much as males.
Abortions is one. If a female isn't ready to be a parent then she gets an abortion if she wants, a male doesn't get to escape parenthood if he doesn't want to be a father yet. I'm not saying males should get the choice for females to abort the baby, I'm saying males should get the choice to be a father or not while the choice to actualy abort the child is the females.
I made this point on a poll recently and females completely bashed it. I was implying equal treatment to males on the subject as much as females have choice on the matter.
I have to say, from what you have said that you seem like a good woman. More females should be like you.
Hopefully you understand my point on the abortion thing.
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Yeah, that is a good point - guys do get 'trapped' with that one (not the word I'm looking for, a bit contentious potentially, but best I can come up with right this second), which really is more unfair on the child than anything, but that's another matter.
I'm kinda stuck on that one, cos I agree a man should have a choice whether or not he wants to be a father - but then I feel the child needs to have a father where possible (to me, two parents in a loving relationship is the ideal - obviously not always the reality. Of course a father forced into parenthood would potentially be resentful of the situation/child, so that's hardly an ideal situation...in which case, one could argue that no father would be better...)
Ah life is complex...
Anyway, I'm rambling now. But thanks for answering my question.
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I also agree, that's one of the points I make on the whole subject. Why would a female want to have a child with someone that doesn't want their child? What effect would that have on the child knowing that they weren't wanted? Females don't get enough wrap for bringing children into this world when they aren't in a sustainable family.
No problem, you asked, I answer.