It's not like I live in a bubble. I have many, many acquaintances who are Aussies and we often discuss the the changes since I was there (they are sailors, right here in the Caribbean). I'm very much up to date on their migration policies and their human rights issues, which are at this very moment being severely criticized by the UN, so I don't think they have any moral high ground.
As for Abo, It may be taken that way by some, but it isn't meant that way by me any more than an Aussie calling me a Yank, which many consider to be derogatory and unkind.
Well, that's really the issue, is it not? SOME find it offensive; that "some" is predominately aboriginal people. I'd equate it to the use of the word "negro" in the US. Whilst it used to be a perfectly acceptable way to refer to black people, it took on a pejorative connotation due to it's historical context...
I'm just explaining...before you accuse me of being the PC police, but it's really not too difficult to avoid a simple word. Also, I wouldn't compare it to the use of the word "kiwi," which doesn't really apply because it's embraced by the population to which it refers.
With regard to your opinions on Australia, which, as I said, you are entitled to, I find them to be irrelevant. Find me a country that doesn't have a human rights blemish on the record. That really has nothing to do with you disagreeing with one persons behavior. If you have a problem with the way that someone addresses you, that's fine, but trying to attribute their behavior to a giant misinformed mess of cultural stereotypes just makes you look ignorant as fuck...
If you had some experience with their educational system, perhaps you would understand my position of saying the country is responsible as a whole for her behavior, just as the dumbing down of Americans has diminished the American public's ability to see through the idiocy of organizations like the Tea Party and allowed Dubya to be president.
As for using the term Abo, I sincerely doubt that there is one on IIN and if there is and he or she wishes to tell me that I am offending them, I would gladly apologize. You might find it interesting, as a woman, to note that until 1976 women were not allowed in public bars there. That kind of backward mentality does not just fade away in 40 years. Negros were not allowed to immigrate, and discouraged from visiting, solely based on their race. I don't think you truly understand the depth of the backwardness of the Australian mentality.
When did the word negro become a no no? What exactly are we to call the negro race; African somethings? If someone chooses to take offense at a word like that, then they are a bit thin skinned.
Several years ago I had a discussion with a Harvard anthropology professor about the term 'native American'. Professionally he considered it degrading. But was most telling was that through his research, the 'native Americans themselves, every single one he interviewed, thought it was absolutely ridiculous and they all considered themselves Indians.
So many of the PC terms are just government twaddle, and I would be most interested how the blacks on here feel about the word negro. If it is not acceptable to them (you), then please give me a suitable replacement.
Damn, next the word 'human' will be offensive to some jackass.
Please,tell me of your personal experience with the Australian educational system.
So your belief - right or wrong - that there are no abos on IIN dictates that it's fine to use the word? Mhm...
Lastly, a lot can happen in 40 years. I'm no history buff but from a quick Google search it would appear segregation in the US only ended in the early 60s?
Is 50 years really so different to 40?
So now you're saying you have enough knowledge of and first hand experience of every country's education system (or at very least the US and Aus) to adequately compare the two and you have found that Australia is at the very bottom? I say bottom because you say Im the result and I think we all know your opinion of me.
It was 1965, not 76 for the public bars. If you're really going to throw that in, you should note Australia was among the first (or the first, I don't recall exactly) to allow women in parliament. Shitty women's rights has been all through Western recent history, it's not a situation unique to Australia.
The whole racist shit...yes. Its fucked. It happens everywhere. So everywhere is now a backward third world country in your books?
I would love to see you call an Aborigine an "Abo". See where that gets you. THAT is the mentality of the cunts who treated them as animals and you are choosing to identify with it.
I ask again: are you honestly claiming this is your view on Australia? Because it really looks better for you to admit it was a knee jerk reaction to attempt to get at someone in a personal attack. You have expressed many racist views on this site before, but never such a negative view of Australia. This just magically crops up now when you think it will make you win an argument. Here's a hint: it makes you look incredibly racist and ignorant.
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It's not like I live in a bubble. I have many, many acquaintances who are Aussies and we often discuss the the changes since I was there (they are sailors, right here in the Caribbean). I'm very much up to date on their migration policies and their human rights issues, which are at this very moment being severely criticized by the UN, so I don't think they have any moral high ground.
As for Abo, It may be taken that way by some, but it isn't meant that way by me any more than an Aussie calling me a Yank, which many consider to be derogatory and unkind.
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Well, that's really the issue, is it not? SOME find it offensive; that "some" is predominately aboriginal people. I'd equate it to the use of the word "negro" in the US. Whilst it used to be a perfectly acceptable way to refer to black people, it took on a pejorative connotation due to it's historical context...
I'm just explaining...before you accuse me of being the PC police, but it's really not too difficult to avoid a simple word. Also, I wouldn't compare it to the use of the word "kiwi," which doesn't really apply because it's embraced by the population to which it refers.
With regard to your opinions on Australia, which, as I said, you are entitled to, I find them to be irrelevant. Find me a country that doesn't have a human rights blemish on the record. That really has nothing to do with you disagreeing with one persons behavior. If you have a problem with the way that someone addresses you, that's fine, but trying to attribute their behavior to a giant misinformed mess of cultural stereotypes just makes you look ignorant as fuck...
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If you had some experience with their educational system, perhaps you would understand my position of saying the country is responsible as a whole for her behavior, just as the dumbing down of Americans has diminished the American public's ability to see through the idiocy of organizations like the Tea Party and allowed Dubya to be president.
As for using the term Abo, I sincerely doubt that there is one on IIN and if there is and he or she wishes to tell me that I am offending them, I would gladly apologize. You might find it interesting, as a woman, to note that until 1976 women were not allowed in public bars there. That kind of backward mentality does not just fade away in 40 years. Negros were not allowed to immigrate, and discouraged from visiting, solely based on their race. I don't think you truly understand the depth of the backwardness of the Australian mentality.
When did the word negro become a no no? What exactly are we to call the negro race; African somethings? If someone chooses to take offense at a word like that, then they are a bit thin skinned.
Several years ago I had a discussion with a Harvard anthropology professor about the term 'native American'. Professionally he considered it degrading. But was most telling was that through his research, the 'native Americans themselves, every single one he interviewed, thought it was absolutely ridiculous and they all considered themselves Indians.
So many of the PC terms are just government twaddle, and I would be most interested how the blacks on here feel about the word negro. If it is not acceptable to them (you), then please give me a suitable replacement.
Damn, next the word 'human' will be offensive to some jackass.
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Please,tell me of your personal experience with the Australian educational system.
So your belief - right or wrong - that there are no abos on IIN dictates that it's fine to use the word? Mhm...
Lastly, a lot can happen in 40 years. I'm no history buff but from a quick Google search it would appear segregation in the US only ended in the early 60s?
Is 50 years really so different to 40?
So now you're saying you have enough knowledge of and first hand experience of every country's education system (or at very least the US and Aus) to adequately compare the two and you have found that Australia is at the very bottom? I say bottom because you say Im the result and I think we all know your opinion of me.
It was 1965, not 76 for the public bars. If you're really going to throw that in, you should note Australia was among the first (or the first, I don't recall exactly) to allow women in parliament. Shitty women's rights has been all through Western recent history, it's not a situation unique to Australia.
The whole racist shit...yes. Its fucked. It happens everywhere. So everywhere is now a backward third world country in your books?
I would love to see you call an Aborigine an "Abo". See where that gets you. THAT is the mentality of the cunts who treated them as animals and you are choosing to identify with it.
I ask again: are you honestly claiming this is your view on Australia? Because it really looks better for you to admit it was a knee jerk reaction to attempt to get at someone in a personal attack. You have expressed many racist views on this site before, but never such a negative view of Australia. This just magically crops up now when you think it will make you win an argument. Here's a hint: it makes you look incredibly racist and ignorant.