I've said my bit TO you, but this was ABOUT you, agreeing with someone else.
I know you can not help your cultural shortcomings, but with the internet available to you, one would think you would make use of it to expand your knowledge beyond the education available in a country where many thought it was fun to go hunt Abos (from vehicles, no less) on the weekends, until at least 1976.
As for my excuse, child, I do not need one. That is the privilege of age. Senility, experience and wisdom all rolled up into one outspoken man.
Now where the fuck did I leave the damn toilet paper?
Fulfilling the stereotype of racist old fuck. I don't know why anyone bothers with you.
You have no idea on my personal stance about the reatment of Aboriginal people in my country, and when you're so backward you refer to them as "Abo's", an extremely derogatory term, it only highlights that you are the ignorant one.
I'm done. Go on and insult me, I ddon't care. You're pathetic tbat you go and poke where you think others won't see. Idiot.
They are Abos, I'm a Yank, there are Kiwis and POME's and Aussies. There's nothing racist about any one of those terms if there is no intention to disparage.
I did not refer to YOUR stance on the "reatment of Aboriginal people" at all, only of my personal experience in Queensland during the 13 months I was there. You are a product of your environment and you cannot help that.
I suspect I know more about your country first hand than you do about mine; what I say is based on my experiences there, not hearsay or conjecture.
What is truly pathetic is that someone raised in one of the most backward modern countries on earth, would prefer to voice an opinion based on her upbringing in that backward nation, than listen to and try to understand the opinions of others (not necessarily myself) who might have a better grasp of the subject matter.
I am sorry you turn statements of fact into personal attacks in many cases, but I cannot do anything to change that.
"go and poke where you think others won't see" Is this some Aussie colloquialism or something, because I do not understand it's meaning at all.
By the way, it might be to your benefit to learn to use a spell checker or a dictionary (though really, "ddon't" is more sloppiness than ignorance, I hope), or at the very least proofread your posts BEFORE you push "post reply", if you wish to be taken as something more than an ignorant fool.
Soooo...I just asked my boyfriend, and apparently "Abo" IS indeed a racial slur, just FYI.
Also, didn't you visit Australia like 50 years ago and never return? That's the equivalent of popping by to visit America during the civil rights movement and forming a permanent opinion of our culture based on that.
You're entitled to your opinion, but it's probably not very accurate.
Borrowing his trick and talking to someone else ABOUT him. Hah.
I'm not sure where I claimed to have vast knowledge of the US...but I certainly wouldn't be stupid enough to claim my opinion was based on a disgusting behaviour and fucked policies in the 70s (that any decent person is appalled by nowadays) when I have no further knowledge of anything since. Especially when no colonised country can say that the colonisers weren't completely wrong in their treatment of the indigenous people. Would it be helpful to bring up the way Native Americans or black people in the US were treated in the past and say that the US is made up of savages and made no progress since? That it is a "third world" country? No. To do so is laughable. And really, the opinion is based on him not liking me.
I also wouldn't tear into people about a typo, because that's just proving you know you haven't got a leg to stand on.
"(that any decent person is appalled by nowadays)" Check your human rights position at the UN right now sweetie and don't lecture me from your moral pedestal.
My gawd, what an ego! To think my opinion of a whole country is based on your comments here is way beyond the realm of reality. Get over yourself!
I didn't realise anyones personal opinion is dictated by the UN.
I don't think that, I think that you are making a pathetic and stupid comment about Australia being backward, purely because you're pissed off at me. You're so blinded by rage you can't even read, it seems. How does you saying Australia is a third world country based on something that happened decades ago and is generally considered to be WRONG any different from someone considering the US a third world country because of their treatment of other races in the past? If I were to say that you would call me an idiot, and rightly so. No sensible person would make such a ridiculous argument.
If, however, you are so ignorant as to actually believe the shit dribbling from your brain, then you are even stupider than I'm giving you credit for.
I see you have no reasonable answer. I take that as your admission that you're wrong, because we all know you're too pig headed to back down now.
It's not like I live in a bubble. I have many, many acquaintances who are Aussies and we often discuss the the changes since I was there (they are sailors, right here in the Caribbean). I'm very much up to date on their migration policies and their human rights issues, which are at this very moment being severely criticized by the UN, so I don't think they have any moral high ground.
As for Abo, It may be taken that way by some, but it isn't meant that way by me any more than an Aussie calling me a Yank, which many consider to be derogatory and unkind.
Well, that's really the issue, is it not? SOME find it offensive; that "some" is predominately aboriginal people. I'd equate it to the use of the word "negro" in the US. Whilst it used to be a perfectly acceptable way to refer to black people, it took on a pejorative connotation due to it's historical context...
I'm just explaining...before you accuse me of being the PC police, but it's really not too difficult to avoid a simple word. Also, I wouldn't compare it to the use of the word "kiwi," which doesn't really apply because it's embraced by the population to which it refers.
With regard to your opinions on Australia, which, as I said, you are entitled to, I find them to be irrelevant. Find me a country that doesn't have a human rights blemish on the record. That really has nothing to do with you disagreeing with one persons behavior. If you have a problem with the way that someone addresses you, that's fine, but trying to attribute their behavior to a giant misinformed mess of cultural stereotypes just makes you look ignorant as fuck...
If you had some experience with their educational system, perhaps you would understand my position of saying the country is responsible as a whole for her behavior, just as the dumbing down of Americans has diminished the American public's ability to see through the idiocy of organizations like the Tea Party and allowed Dubya to be president.
As for using the term Abo, I sincerely doubt that there is one on IIN and if there is and he or she wishes to tell me that I am offending them, I would gladly apologize. You might find it interesting, as a woman, to note that until 1976 women were not allowed in public bars there. That kind of backward mentality does not just fade away in 40 years. Negros were not allowed to immigrate, and discouraged from visiting, solely based on their race. I don't think you truly understand the depth of the backwardness of the Australian mentality.
When did the word negro become a no no? What exactly are we to call the negro race; African somethings? If someone chooses to take offense at a word like that, then they are a bit thin skinned.
Several years ago I had a discussion with a Harvard anthropology professor about the term 'native American'. Professionally he considered it degrading. But was most telling was that through his research, the 'native Americans themselves, every single one he interviewed, thought it was absolutely ridiculous and they all considered themselves Indians.
So many of the PC terms are just government twaddle, and I would be most interested how the blacks on here feel about the word negro. If it is not acceptable to them (you), then please give me a suitable replacement.
Damn, next the word 'human' will be offensive to some jackass.
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I've said my bit TO you, but this was ABOUT you, agreeing with someone else.
I know you can not help your cultural shortcomings, but with the internet available to you, one would think you would make use of it to expand your knowledge beyond the education available in a country where many thought it was fun to go hunt Abos (from vehicles, no less) on the weekends, until at least 1976.
As for my excuse, child, I do not need one. That is the privilege of age. Senility, experience and wisdom all rolled up into one outspoken man.
Now where the fuck did I leave the damn toilet paper?
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Fulfilling the stereotype of racist old fuck. I don't know why anyone bothers with you.
You have no idea on my personal stance about the reatment of Aboriginal people in my country, and when you're so backward you refer to them as "Abo's", an extremely derogatory term, it only highlights that you are the ignorant one.
I'm done. Go on and insult me, I ddon't care. You're pathetic tbat you go and poke where you think others won't see. Idiot.
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They are Abos, I'm a Yank, there are Kiwis and POME's and Aussies. There's nothing racist about any one of those terms if there is no intention to disparage.
I did not refer to YOUR stance on the "reatment of Aboriginal people" at all, only of my personal experience in Queensland during the 13 months I was there. You are a product of your environment and you cannot help that.
I suspect I know more about your country first hand than you do about mine; what I say is based on my experiences there, not hearsay or conjecture.
What is truly pathetic is that someone raised in one of the most backward modern countries on earth, would prefer to voice an opinion based on her upbringing in that backward nation, than listen to and try to understand the opinions of others (not necessarily myself) who might have a better grasp of the subject matter.
I am sorry you turn statements of fact into personal attacks in many cases, but I cannot do anything to change that.
"go and poke where you think others won't see" Is this some Aussie colloquialism or something, because I do not understand it's meaning at all.
By the way, it might be to your benefit to learn to use a spell checker or a dictionary (though really, "ddon't" is more sloppiness than ignorance, I hope), or at the very least proofread your posts BEFORE you push "post reply", if you wish to be taken as something more than an ignorant fool.
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Soooo...I just asked my boyfriend, and apparently "Abo" IS indeed a racial slur, just FYI.
Also, didn't you visit Australia like 50 years ago and never return? That's the equivalent of popping by to visit America during the civil rights movement and forming a permanent opinion of our culture based on that.
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Borrowing his trick and talking to someone else ABOUT him. Hah.
I'm not sure where I claimed to have vast knowledge of the US...but I certainly wouldn't be stupid enough to claim my opinion was based on a disgusting behaviour and fucked policies in the 70s (that any decent person is appalled by nowadays) when I have no further knowledge of anything since. Especially when no colonised country can say that the colonisers weren't completely wrong in their treatment of the indigenous people. Would it be helpful to bring up the way Native Americans or black people in the US were treated in the past and say that the US is made up of savages and made no progress since? That it is a "third world" country? No. To do so is laughable. And really, the opinion is based on him not liking me.
I also wouldn't tear into people about a typo, because that's just proving you know you haven't got a leg to stand on.
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"(that any decent person is appalled by nowadays)" Check your human rights position at the UN right now sweetie and don't lecture me from your moral pedestal.
My gawd, what an ego! To think my opinion of a whole country is based on your comments here is way beyond the realm of reality. Get over yourself!
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I didn't realise anyones personal opinion is dictated by the UN.
I don't think that, I think that you are making a pathetic and stupid comment about Australia being backward, purely because you're pissed off at me. You're so blinded by rage you can't even read, it seems. How does you saying Australia is a third world country based on something that happened decades ago and is generally considered to be WRONG any different from someone considering the US a third world country because of their treatment of other races in the past? If I were to say that you would call me an idiot, and rightly so. No sensible person would make such a ridiculous argument.
If, however, you are so ignorant as to actually believe the shit dribbling from your brain, then you are even stupider than I'm giving you credit for.
I see you have no reasonable answer. I take that as your admission that you're wrong, because we all know you're too pig headed to back down now.
It's not like I live in a bubble. I have many, many acquaintances who are Aussies and we often discuss the the changes since I was there (they are sailors, right here in the Caribbean). I'm very much up to date on their migration policies and their human rights issues, which are at this very moment being severely criticized by the UN, so I don't think they have any moral high ground.
As for Abo, It may be taken that way by some, but it isn't meant that way by me any more than an Aussie calling me a Yank, which many consider to be derogatory and unkind.
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Well, that's really the issue, is it not? SOME find it offensive; that "some" is predominately aboriginal people. I'd equate it to the use of the word "negro" in the US. Whilst it used to be a perfectly acceptable way to refer to black people, it took on a pejorative connotation due to it's historical context...
I'm just explaining...before you accuse me of being the PC police, but it's really not too difficult to avoid a simple word. Also, I wouldn't compare it to the use of the word "kiwi," which doesn't really apply because it's embraced by the population to which it refers.
With regard to your opinions on Australia, which, as I said, you are entitled to, I find them to be irrelevant. Find me a country that doesn't have a human rights blemish on the record. That really has nothing to do with you disagreeing with one persons behavior. If you have a problem with the way that someone addresses you, that's fine, but trying to attribute their behavior to a giant misinformed mess of cultural stereotypes just makes you look ignorant as fuck...
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If you had some experience with their educational system, perhaps you would understand my position of saying the country is responsible as a whole for her behavior, just as the dumbing down of Americans has diminished the American public's ability to see through the idiocy of organizations like the Tea Party and allowed Dubya to be president.
As for using the term Abo, I sincerely doubt that there is one on IIN and if there is and he or she wishes to tell me that I am offending them, I would gladly apologize. You might find it interesting, as a woman, to note that until 1976 women were not allowed in public bars there. That kind of backward mentality does not just fade away in 40 years. Negros were not allowed to immigrate, and discouraged from visiting, solely based on their race. I don't think you truly understand the depth of the backwardness of the Australian mentality.
When did the word negro become a no no? What exactly are we to call the negro race; African somethings? If someone chooses to take offense at a word like that, then they are a bit thin skinned.
Several years ago I had a discussion with a Harvard anthropology professor about the term 'native American'. Professionally he considered it degrading. But was most telling was that through his research, the 'native Americans themselves, every single one he interviewed, thought it was absolutely ridiculous and they all considered themselves Indians.
So many of the PC terms are just government twaddle, and I would be most interested how the blacks on here feel about the word negro. If it is not acceptable to them (you), then please give me a suitable replacement.
Damn, next the word 'human' will be offensive to some jackass.