I hope we also teach the next generation of boys how to treat women. Not just not to assault them, beat them to the point of hospitalization, or murder them...but how to defend themselves when a woman gently smacks or pinches them instead of retaliating by putting them in a hospital or a grave.
We also need to teach the next generation to stop being so entitled. Boys feels so entitled to women's bodies and attention that they think it's abusive to be denied that. They think crazy bullshit that women are allowed to stand up for themselves and say no. They think women are super emotional anytime they get angry or yell because they're treated poorly, again, because boys think they're entitled to do whatever they want.
Thank you for that response, not too different to mine. Someone had downvoted you and I voted you back up to a zero score, which is totally inappropriate in my opinion!
Thanks! The misogynist slugs always come crawling out from under their rocks eventually, don't they, with their high standard of debate (NOT) plus all the capitals and exclamation marks....
Those are abusive men who behave like that. Women are constantly taught how to avoid abusive men, stalkers, predators, and more from an early age, with sayings like, "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is," to use your keys as a weapon, and more.
Men aren't taught those things. They're mostly taught that showing emotion is weak, being a man means being strong or some shit like that, not to hit women, etc.
My issue is, I'm tired of GOOD (not abusive) men having to put up with bullshit. Women have shelters and more to help, while abused men have little to nothing.
I jump from forum to forum reading and helping, and it pissed me off when one guy was so sad that his girlfriend of years refuses to show him any affection, berates him, and more because she thinks his penis is small. That's the same as a guy saying a girl's breast are small, and treats her like shit for.it. However, the advice given to him was truly horrible, from, "Get an enhancement," "you shouldn't date cause your baby dick," "you're not a real man," and many more. No one... NO ONE, told this guy to leave that abusive bitch, but made it seem like it's his job to please her and keep her happy, like a servant.
Yeah, I get what you're saying, but as I said, women have a ton of help, it's just having the strength to leave the guy. If a woman refuses to leave her abusers, then isn't much those programs can do to help.
Oh you poor poor abused and battered men with nowhere to go ...... if the need is so great to escape from all these abusive women, what's stopping you from doing what we women had to start doing in the 70's and setting up refuges for yourselves? Why don't you get together with other men and do exactly that if you believe it's such a huge problem?
It's true women are taught a lot about stranger danger but too many still grow up in households where the father dominates the mother and abuses her and this becomes the norm.
I hope you told the man in question to leave the nasty woman he was with, but you've come up with ONE example of a weak man putting up with verbal abuse: how does that balance against the stats on abuse and murder of women by male partners?
Women's support programs can help women to realise there's an alternative to living in an abusive situation but they obviously can't do rescue operations, although I must admit when I worked in women's refuges back in Women's Liberation days we were sometimes tempted to do so and some women died because they just couldn't get themselves out in time or were conned by the man with apologies and promises of reform. Women and sometimes children are still living in fear and sometimes dying because in spite of the rhetoric governments still do not provide adequate funding for refuges and other support services.
I respect what you're saying, but I just can neither be so one-sided, nor so angry toward men.
I was abused in multiple ways by family and partners, even went to a women's shelter for a little bit. However, I'm not going to look at men and go, "well, you're bigger and stronger than women, you should be able to handle yourself from a little verbal abuse and a slap on the face," when we, women, who are known for getting abused and murdered by our partners should know how strong emotional and psychological abuse are and the hold it can have. It's not about how strong a man is physically, or what other men do to women around the world and in the past, it's about the individual. Everyone is different, and everyone can feel pain. Men aren't immune to emotional/psychological abuse, as well as physical and sexual abuse.
How do you work out that I'm angry towards men in general? Not that it would be a crime if it were true, but it's not: all I was doing was pointing out facts and statistics and in fact in spite of surviving child sexual abuse, domestic violence and rape I do not hate all men.
Men are in fact usually bigger and stronger than women and I refuse to believe they are innately unable to deal with verbal abuse from women without resorting to physical violence.
Of course each individual situation is about the individuals involved, but that doesn't alter the fact that in a patriarchal society men have power over women, including physical power to the extent of life or death or permanent disability.
No-one, including me, said men are immune to abuse but the facts speak for themselves: women are overwhelmingly more likely to experienced male violence than the reverse.
Domestic violence stats are 50/50 - and child abuse is committed by mothers more than fathers. And LESBIANS have the HIGHEST RATE of domestic violence of any orientation! That big butch dyke beast can look like a man but not exercise masculine self control! So stop spewing your FEMINIST LIES you fucking dyke beast!
Why do some girls take advantage of boys?
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I hope we also teach the next generation of boys how to treat women. Not just not to assault them, beat them to the point of hospitalization, or murder them...but how to defend themselves when a woman gently smacks or pinches them instead of retaliating by putting them in a hospital or a grave.
We also need to teach the next generation to stop being so entitled. Boys feels so entitled to women's bodies and attention that they think it's abusive to be denied that. They think crazy bullshit that women are allowed to stand up for themselves and say no. They think women are super emotional anytime they get angry or yell because they're treated poorly, again, because boys think they're entitled to do whatever they want.
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Thank you for that response, not too different to mine. Someone had downvoted you and I voted you back up to a zero score, which is totally inappropriate in my opinion!
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Thanks! The misogynist slugs always come crawling out from under their rocks eventually, don't they, with their high standard of debate (NOT) plus all the capitals and exclamation marks....
Those are abusive men who behave like that. Women are constantly taught how to avoid abusive men, stalkers, predators, and more from an early age, with sayings like, "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is," to use your keys as a weapon, and more.
Men aren't taught those things. They're mostly taught that showing emotion is weak, being a man means being strong or some shit like that, not to hit women, etc.
My issue is, I'm tired of GOOD (not abusive) men having to put up with bullshit. Women have shelters and more to help, while abused men have little to nothing.
I jump from forum to forum reading and helping, and it pissed me off when one guy was so sad that his girlfriend of years refuses to show him any affection, berates him, and more because she thinks his penis is small. That's the same as a guy saying a girl's breast are small, and treats her like shit for.it. However, the advice given to him was truly horrible, from, "Get an enhancement," "you shouldn't date cause your baby dick," "you're not a real man," and many more. No one... NO ONE, told this guy to leave that abusive bitch, but made it seem like it's his job to please her and keep her happy, like a servant.
Yeah, I get what you're saying, but as I said, women have a ton of help, it's just having the strength to leave the guy. If a woman refuses to leave her abusers, then isn't much those programs can do to help.
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Oh you poor poor abused and battered men with nowhere to go ...... if the need is so great to escape from all these abusive women, what's stopping you from doing what we women had to start doing in the 70's and setting up refuges for yourselves? Why don't you get together with other men and do exactly that if you believe it's such a huge problem?
It's true women are taught a lot about stranger danger but too many still grow up in households where the father dominates the mother and abuses her and this becomes the norm.
I hope you told the man in question to leave the nasty woman he was with, but you've come up with ONE example of a weak man putting up with verbal abuse: how does that balance against the stats on abuse and murder of women by male partners?
Women's support programs can help women to realise there's an alternative to living in an abusive situation but they obviously can't do rescue operations, although I must admit when I worked in women's refuges back in Women's Liberation days we were sometimes tempted to do so and some women died because they just couldn't get themselves out in time or were conned by the man with apologies and promises of reform. Women and sometimes children are still living in fear and sometimes dying because in spite of the rhetoric governments still do not provide adequate funding for refuges and other support services.
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I respect what you're saying, but I just can neither be so one-sided, nor so angry toward men.
I was abused in multiple ways by family and partners, even went to a women's shelter for a little bit. However, I'm not going to look at men and go, "well, you're bigger and stronger than women, you should be able to handle yourself from a little verbal abuse and a slap on the face," when we, women, who are known for getting abused and murdered by our partners should know how strong emotional and psychological abuse are and the hold it can have. It's not about how strong a man is physically, or what other men do to women around the world and in the past, it's about the individual. Everyone is different, and everyone can feel pain. Men aren't immune to emotional/psychological abuse, as well as physical and sexual abuse.
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How do you work out that I'm angry towards men in general? Not that it would be a crime if it were true, but it's not: all I was doing was pointing out facts and statistics and in fact in spite of surviving child sexual abuse, domestic violence and rape I do not hate all men.
Men are in fact usually bigger and stronger than women and I refuse to believe they are innately unable to deal with verbal abuse from women without resorting to physical violence.
Of course each individual situation is about the individuals involved, but that doesn't alter the fact that in a patriarchal society men have power over women, including physical power to the extent of life or death or permanent disability.
No-one, including me, said men are immune to abuse but the facts speak for themselves: women are overwhelmingly more likely to experienced male violence than the reverse.
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Domestic violence stats are 50/50 - and child abuse is committed by mothers more than fathers. And LESBIANS have the HIGHEST RATE of domestic violence of any orientation! That big butch dyke beast can look like a man but not exercise masculine self control! So stop spewing your FEMINIST LIES you fucking dyke beast!
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Where did you get those stats from? They're certainly not Australian ones.
I'm not a Lesbian, by the way
Feminism is a MENTAL ILLNESS!!
Shut the fuck up with your MISANDRIST LIES, you DISGUSTING OBSCENE FEMINIST CUNT BITCH!! Your kind belongs in CONCENTRATION CAMPS!!