Why do so many young people sound beta?

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  • Don't know so much about the voice, but I'm from the younger generation and I'd agree that the men are a lot weaker than in past generations. It's quite pathetic really.

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    • Less traditionally masculine doesn't mean less strong??? Traditionally manly doesn't mean shit.

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      • There's a reason pretty much every civilization except this one since the dawn of time has valued it.

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        • What is the reason?? They're just made up. Things like religion, hierarchies and gender roles helped to push the belief that men are stronger, wiser, and overall just have more power. You haven't heard much about women doing these 'masculine' things because there are stereotypes, prejudices, and doubts about women. Women *are* in fact suppressed, and aren't talked about /nearly/ as much.

          Also, how do you know every civilization since the dawn of time valued masculinity? Do you know that masculinity and the things that come with being masculine change ALL THE TIME. It used to be manly the wear pink, and dresses were invented for a MAN. All of this categorization bullshit needs to stop. You cannot categorize things into feminine and masculine like that. Peoples hobbies, interests, /speech patterns/, what they wear, etc, have *nothing* to do with gender/masculine & femininity until people made it like that.

          Feminine doesn't equal woman
          Masuline doesn't equal man

          My point is that what was considered masculine a long time ago, is now considered feminine, and so on.

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          • Pretty much every society that made it to a good level of civilization had the same gender roles for men. It's almost as if evolution had something to do with it.

            Also the things assosiated with being masculine don't change all the time. That simply isn't true. I'm doing a degree in ancient history and I can tell you that there's a pretty constant base foundation for masculine values.

            Coloured clothing isn't really one of the masculine virtues though. I'm talking about being strong, brave, courageous, and willing to fight to defend whats yours. These are things that society has always held as the masculine virtues apart from perhaps in the modern day where western society is weak, decadent and decling both in IQ and fertility level.

            I agree with your very last point to a degree, but it's only in the modern world that we've basterdized gender roles, and even now there's still traditonal masculinity and femeinity.

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            • Then we are on the same page, I assumed you meant other things. Gidd talking to you.

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