"was about to relate to you some verses over here as I already had some in my mind. what kept me from it was that they were long and deep and the person reading them has to have quite much knowledge about what they're referring to.. I can now perceive you have some but not that deep :p"
That still sounds pretty weak to me. I also think it's VERY strange that apparently it's not enough to be able to just simply read what the Qur'an says. When it APPEARS vile or violent (which it very often does), it suddenly NEVER is, it can ALWAYS be excused somehow. Like I said, I think that's VERY strange.
"i know you're a good person indeed"
Do you think that I (as a disbeliever) will be tortured forever in Jahannam? Surely, I don't deserve that if I'm a good person.
"Oh I'm from Pakistan. :)"
Thanks for telling me, I've never spoken to someone from Pakistan before I think!
cause you just deny the very basic concept even, that is "the existence of a single divine creature who has created the universe and everything it contains" . yes ,you won't be able to have the gift of heavens.
BTW, regardless of any religion , don't you ever wonder about creation of universe. have you ever thought what would happen if it turns out to be true that God exists?
"cause you just deny the very basic concept even, that is "the existence of a single divine creature who has created the universe and everything it contains" . yes ,you won't be able to have the gift of heavens."
Not going to Heaven after I die is one thing, but do you ACTUALLY believe I deserve to be tortured FOREVER in Jahannam after I die? Come on...
There are people I love who have died without believing in a God. Acccording to Islam, they are now being tortured forever in Jahannam. Even IF I believed in the existence of Allah, why the FUCK would I worship such an EVIL monster?
I think the most important thing in life is to be a good person, NOT if you believe in a God or not. You don't have to believe in a God to be a good person. Besides, which God exactly? People have believed in NUMEROUS Gods throughout history. Your Allah is just a relatively new one. Also, religion has caused a LOT of harm in the world, and continues to do so to this day.
"BTW, regardless of any religion , don't you ever wonder about creation of universe."
Absolutely, I wonder a lot about the universe and how it came to exist. I've also thought a lot about the possibility of a God. However, I think it's VERY unlikely a God exists, because of all the misery in the world (diseases, war, death, crime, etc.). Also, if you believe in a God, you have to explain where said God came from. It doesn't solve anything.
"have you ever thought what would happen if it turns out to be true that God exists?"
Yes, I have. IF a God turns out to exist (which I don't think will EVER happen), I hope I'll be forgiven. I also think I'll actually BE forgiven, since I'm a good person (unless this God turns out to be a total fucking cocksucker such as Allah). Anyway, I don't think fear of eternal torture is a very good reason to believe.
BTW, no offense, but I think it's really sad when adults have an invisible friend (God). I mean, aren't invisible friends more for toddlers?
Why do feminists keep silent about the position of women in Islam?
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"was about to relate to you some verses over here as I already had some in my mind. what kept me from it was that they were long and deep and the person reading them has to have quite much knowledge about what they're referring to.. I can now perceive you have some but not that deep :p"
That still sounds pretty weak to me. I also think it's VERY strange that apparently it's not enough to be able to just simply read what the Qur'an says. When it APPEARS vile or violent (which it very often does), it suddenly NEVER is, it can ALWAYS be excused somehow. Like I said, I think that's VERY strange.
"i know you're a good person indeed"
Do you think that I (as a disbeliever) will be tortured forever in Jahannam? Surely, I don't deserve that if I'm a good person.
"Oh I'm from Pakistan. :)"
Thanks for telling me, I've never spoken to someone from Pakistan before I think!
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BTW, regardless of any religion , don't you ever wonder about creation of universe. have you ever thought what would happen if it turns out to be true that God exists?
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"cause you just deny the very basic concept even, that is "the existence of a single divine creature who has created the universe and everything it contains" . yes ,you won't be able to have the gift of heavens."
Not going to Heaven after I die is one thing, but do you ACTUALLY believe I deserve to be tortured FOREVER in Jahannam after I die? Come on...
There are people I love who have died without believing in a God. Acccording to Islam, they are now being tortured forever in Jahannam. Even IF I believed in the existence of Allah, why the FUCK would I worship such an EVIL monster?
I think the most important thing in life is to be a good person, NOT if you believe in a God or not. You don't have to believe in a God to be a good person. Besides, which God exactly? People have believed in NUMEROUS Gods throughout history. Your Allah is just a relatively new one. Also, religion has caused a LOT of harm in the world, and continues to do so to this day.
"BTW, regardless of any religion , don't you ever wonder about creation of universe."
Absolutely, I wonder a lot about the universe and how it came to exist. I've also thought a lot about the possibility of a God. However, I think it's VERY unlikely a God exists, because of all the misery in the world (diseases, war, death, crime, etc.). Also, if you believe in a God, you have to explain where said God came from. It doesn't solve anything.
"have you ever thought what would happen if it turns out to be true that God exists?"
Yes, I have. IF a God turns out to exist (which I don't think will EVER happen), I hope I'll be forgiven. I also think I'll actually BE forgiven, since I'm a good person (unless this God turns out to be a total fucking cocksucker such as Allah). Anyway, I don't think fear of eternal torture is a very good reason to believe.
BTW, no offense, but I think it's really sad when adults have an invisible friend (God). I mean, aren't invisible friends more for toddlers?