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A lot of atheists firmly believe that alien life exists. Yet, the existence of God is impossible, or at least extremely unlikely, to them. Why?
Because we know that life can exist here and therefor it stands to reason life will exist elsewhere but we're yet to see anything close to the miracles and mystical powers of a God to assume such a being is even possible.
Eh I'm agnostic and I'm not 100% sure of anything. But there is a god, whether on not it's a quantifiable entity or something else entirely is impossible to know. Something had to of created reality. Even if it was natural process the entire universe didn't exsist until the big bang. Conceptually not having a universe of all time (that didnt even exsist) and then suddenly BOOM new universe with stuff that exists is kinda weird given that nothing existed prior. Only by using the power of math do we have at least an idea of what went on before time exsisted.
That's why I'm agnostic, fuck if I know what's out there but there had to be a first power. By default that's god.
No doubt there was a cause for life but I think when people speak about the existence of God they are meaning a God from religion rather than simply the cause of our existence.
That's why I'm agnostic I simply dont know if it's an ethereal dude upstairs. Or if it's a unknowable force of nature that pushed the first domino. Either way I hope hedging my bets Grant's me at least avoidance of whatever hell exists.
I've not really made my mind up about it but I acknowledge I have no idea. On one hand I hope that the religious concept of "God" is real so that there is an afterlife but on the other hand it would be quite depressing to think we were created by a divine being because then we'd have a purpose and having a purpose kind of makes us redundant once we reach that purpose and we'd be less impressive as a species.
Yeah but at least that gives us a purpose rather than being just a very lucky species that managed to get this far. Plus an afterlife would be cool. Practically every animal avoids death for fear of death. But humans have to add an extra layer of existential dread of it. That's why I dont blame people for having religion. Not knowing, while honest. Is pretty shit of a situation to find yourself in.
If one experience supernatural events would that than warrent belief in jesus
It would certainly make it more believable, I suppose. Problem is that supernatural events tend to be normal events not understood by the common perspective.
I guess you see this as a contradiction because atheists say they don't believe in God because they see no evidence of a deity, but nor is there any solid evidence of the existence of life on other planets so they shouldn't believe that's possible either.
Sounds_Weird's reply explains well why this is not actually a contradiction.
It seems to me that Christians have two main options open to them when they consider life in the universe.
First, they can choose to believe that in all the millions and millions of galaxies that contain millions of planets, God picked this one piddling little planet in an obscure corner of a not particularly interesting galaxy as the only place where he'd create intelligent life. That would make us very special indeed, but it would suggest that God is either far more whimsical than the Bible portrays Him as being, or that He found creating life such a strain that he decided to never bother doing it elsewhere.
Alternatively, you can choose to believe that He repeated the exercise on many other planets. But that then raises the question of whether all of the aliens on those planets are perfect, sinless beings and humans are literally the biggest screw-ups in the whole frigging universe, or if they're all sinful too, but He's decided that those creations of his don't deserve the chance of salvation and eternal life with him in Heaven. I mean, the whole Jesus act with the dying/not dying thing was clearly a charade from the start, but Jesus is supposedly his only son, right? So do only humans get the benefit of that show? Or is Jesus spending his eternity being born in a series of bodies on a virtually endless succession of planets, living his life and telling people how they should live and then going through the act of pretend-dying again and again as his father works his way down his to-do list?
I suppose the last would actually be consistent with the God of the Bible. There's plenty of evidence there that God the Father is an asshat, so it would make sense that he's spent all eternity putting his son through shit.
God is s something scientists can neither prove nor disprove. So they are indifferent to it.
Aliens on the other hand, don't need any supernatural explanation.
Because those two things aren't in any way similar to each other and it's not an unlikely thought that there is life on other planets. It's not like we've explored the entire space
The ancient astronaut theory/ancient aliens
Because they're coming at it with a scientific approach, and also as an extension of a core staple of their atheism.
As an atheist, one presumes life naturally arose as a biological process which was part of a chemical process which was part of a physical process. Given the span of the universe it seems comically unlikely that this occured only once, which would be a borderline religion-like belief. The Drake equation suggests 100 million times life has started in the Milky Way.
The funny thing is that even when we discuss how many civilizations might exist, whether or not we consider temporal separation (that is, the possibility of not existing simultaneously at any given time), we're only talking about the Milky Way, _one_ galaxy. There are at least _trillions_ of galaxies and the universe is quite possibly infinite. It's almost unthinkable that life doesn't exist somewhere else.
My question is how it's possible that so many religious people don't believe in extraterrestrials; after all, any God creating the Earth is not from the Earth and by very definition an extraterrestrial.
But in a nutshell, we think extraterrestrial life exists because to deny it is to say that something science suggests has happened (at least) roughly 200,000,000,000,000,000,000 times has only happened once. Atheists tend to go with science.
Ever heard of the great barrier? Idk if I nailed the name but it's a certain set of criteria needed for life. Having life on a planet isn't guaranteed to output a lifeform that would have the same or greater inteligence than humans. Humans very well could be the only intelligent life in the milky way that has gotten this far. If the asteroid didnt wipe out the dinosaurs there is no guarantee the dinosaurs could have eventually evolved a hyper social and inteligent species. Heck the majority of the planets with life on them could just have space cows as their most inteligent species. Inteligence is a risky investment evolution wise. You need to live a long ass time to be able to make progress, at that point you need a language in order to teach the offspring so you can progress further. You need fire to make scientific progress, if fire cannot be maintained and controlled that species isnt going to go off world.
There are probably aliens but we are most likely just an ant colony to be watched rather than having an open dialogue. Not really much motivation to give us anything logically speaking. If they can already get to earth we are already outclassed in every respect. It's up to them at that point if they want to discuss things.
This is such a stupid comparison I don’t even know how to approach it...
Seems like Two totally different things? Kinda like asking: “Should people who watch Football and Sports drink beer”?? What does beer have to do with following sports? You can watch sports and not be a beer drinker?
Depends on your definition of "god" and "alien". They could essentially be the same thing to some people.
aliens as we imagine em live in the same realm/dimension/universe as us
god as described by people can be any numbera abstractions made up by people
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