I'm not sure if you saw my other comment on this, but exactly; the temporal dimension (time) was created with the Big Bang. So it's not that we don't know what happened "before" the Big Bang; it's that there _was_ no before the Big Bang.
Therefore _no one_ created the Big Bang because they didn't have _time_ to. That's not a pun; it/they just quite literally wouldn't have had time to. That's what we tend to point out most often, probably because it's most profound, but it's worth mentioning that the spatial dimensions (space) were created with the Big Bang as well. So no creator even had a medium or mechanism to exist at all "before" the Big Bang, and again, even if it did, this moment simply doesn't exist.
It's therefore impossible for there to be a creator. How did something come from nothing then? We don't claim to know everything yet, it's possible we never will with current human intelligence without merging with artificial intelligence in the future, but it almost certainly has something major to do with mathematics, equalities, and in particular zero, the "magic" number.
Even if nothing physically existed, mathematics will eternally conceptually exist with or without an observer. 2 plus 2 will always equal 4. It's the purest logic. So let's look at some _really_ simple equalities, paying attention to the fact that both sides of the equal sign have the same value:
4=4
2+2=4
1+1+2=4
Now let's look at the killer:
(-1)+1=0
Negative one plus one is equal to zero. This means that in terms of value, nothingness is the exact same thing as positive something plus negative something.
In fact we see this obsession everywhere. Positive charge and negative charge. Matter and antimatter. Positive spin and negative spin. It's the life blood of our universe.
Now get this: The total sum of energy in our universe really appears to be outright zero as best as we can tell when we define the positive as the energy converted to matter in the beginning and the negative is thought of as the effects of gravity. This is _not_ a coincidence.
The plot thickens: Fluctuations in quantum fields often cause particle and antiparticle pairs to seemingly spring into existence and then mutually annihilate one another, seemingly going back to "nothingness". This happens all the time.
But what would cause the spontaneous creation of our universe even if we have a mechanism for it to come from zero? The answer is that there is no cause. It's difficult for us to wrap our heads around this because of the nature of cause and effect and how deeply ingrained its usually form is in our intuition, not unlike the intuitive assumption that a particle can't exist in more than one place at a time (this is called a superposition and they very much actually do exist, intuition be damned).
Our brains evolved in Africa to do things like predict the trajectories of objects so we could throw things meaningfully. Before developing technology our brains had really only developed to _intuitively_ understand movement in the macroscopic world and little else. Due to this the microscopic world, infinities, superpositions, and causeless effects don't come very naturally for us at all.
Cause and effect is generally a temporal function. It involves time. Remembering that time was created in the instant of the Big Bang, if we define the creation of the Big Bang as the effect, there's no time for the cause to exist in.
In summary, because mathematics is perpetually conceptual, the universe manifested, as there's simply no way around it. This had to happen. It is what it is. This not only doesn't require a god, but it leaves no room for one.
A bigger question is one regarding why we even need to go this deep to debunk a god in general when virtually all the _invidual_ major ones are so easily discovered to be non-existent. At a certain point one ought to say, "If it looks like a duck, it walks like a duck, and it fucks like a duck, it's the fact that there's no god."
Every religion is already saying around 4,300 other religions are obviously BS; atheism just takes that one religion further.
why are you atheist? why are you theist?
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I'm not sure if you saw my other comment on this, but exactly; the temporal dimension (time) was created with the Big Bang. So it's not that we don't know what happened "before" the Big Bang; it's that there _was_ no before the Big Bang.
Therefore _no one_ created the Big Bang because they didn't have _time_ to. That's not a pun; it/they just quite literally wouldn't have had time to. That's what we tend to point out most often, probably because it's most profound, but it's worth mentioning that the spatial dimensions (space) were created with the Big Bang as well. So no creator even had a medium or mechanism to exist at all "before" the Big Bang, and again, even if it did, this moment simply doesn't exist.
It's therefore impossible for there to be a creator. How did something come from nothing then? We don't claim to know everything yet, it's possible we never will with current human intelligence without merging with artificial intelligence in the future, but it almost certainly has something major to do with mathematics, equalities, and in particular zero, the "magic" number.
Even if nothing physically existed, mathematics will eternally conceptually exist with or without an observer. 2 plus 2 will always equal 4. It's the purest logic. So let's look at some _really_ simple equalities, paying attention to the fact that both sides of the equal sign have the same value:
4=4
2+2=4
1+1+2=4
Now let's look at the killer:
(-1)+1=0
Negative one plus one is equal to zero. This means that in terms of value, nothingness is the exact same thing as positive something plus negative something.
In fact we see this obsession everywhere. Positive charge and negative charge. Matter and antimatter. Positive spin and negative spin. It's the life blood of our universe.
Now get this: The total sum of energy in our universe really appears to be outright zero as best as we can tell when we define the positive as the energy converted to matter in the beginning and the negative is thought of as the effects of gravity. This is _not_ a coincidence.
The plot thickens: Fluctuations in quantum fields often cause particle and antiparticle pairs to seemingly spring into existence and then mutually annihilate one another, seemingly going back to "nothingness". This happens all the time.
But what would cause the spontaneous creation of our universe even if we have a mechanism for it to come from zero? The answer is that there is no cause. It's difficult for us to wrap our heads around this because of the nature of cause and effect and how deeply ingrained its usually form is in our intuition, not unlike the intuitive assumption that a particle can't exist in more than one place at a time (this is called a superposition and they very much actually do exist, intuition be damned).
Our brains evolved in Africa to do things like predict the trajectories of objects so we could throw things meaningfully. Before developing technology our brains had really only developed to _intuitively_ understand movement in the macroscopic world and little else. Due to this the microscopic world, infinities, superpositions, and causeless effects don't come very naturally for us at all.
Cause and effect is generally a temporal function. It involves time. Remembering that time was created in the instant of the Big Bang, if we define the creation of the Big Bang as the effect, there's no time for the cause to exist in.
In summary, because mathematics is perpetually conceptual, the universe manifested, as there's simply no way around it. This had to happen. It is what it is. This not only doesn't require a god, but it leaves no room for one.
A bigger question is one regarding why we even need to go this deep to debunk a god in general when virtually all the _invidual_ major ones are so easily discovered to be non-existent. At a certain point one ought to say, "If it looks like a duck, it walks like a duck, and it fucks like a duck, it's the fact that there's no god."
Every religion is already saying around 4,300 other religions are obviously BS; atheism just takes that one religion further.