I'm an atheist because of how insanely obvious it is that there's no god.
This is actually the only good thing about texts like the Bible being so horrible. Otherwise this would be quite the blow, losing the potential for eternal life, but fortunately the texts are so horrible that it's actually better not to have eternal life than to discover you live in the sort of world described, ruled by such an unthinkable evil in absolute control.
The Bible specifically reads about like what you would get if you asked a pissed off Trump supporter who is 100% convinced his wife is cheating on him and who has a weird obsession with his daughter's virginity to make up a religion. It's absolutely fucking horrible. If a woman doesn't scream when raped, she loved it, and you should stone her to death. If a man sleeps with his wife for the first time and thinks she doesn't feel like a virgin, he should stone her to death on her father's doorstep and the father should participate for giving this poor man such a shitty daughter. Gay? Get the stones. Wrong god? Stones. Wife smashes another dude's balls to stop him from killing you? Cut her hand off (yes I'm fucking serious, it actually felt the need to address this unlikely scenario). She wanted to touch that dick. Either way, she did, so the hand has to go now because obviously it's completely worthless now just like her entire being would be if she'd had sex before meeting you.
And I don't want to hear all that "that was the old law" bullshit. We can argue all day about the fact that Jesus says he doesn't come to change it or that the New Testament is still pretty bad, but at the end of the day it doesn't fucking matter. Know why? Because for one it's completely unthinkable that an all-powerful deity fucked up the first time anyway. It is completely unacceptable. Whoops! Sorry guys. You don't get to change your goddamn mind after that big of a fuck up and still act like there's still anything special about you. That's shit most humans don't fuck up that badly. Whoops. I was accidentally Hitler for a minute there. Sorry about being a sexist piece of shit and making you kill your daughter that time. My bad. By the way I'm still bad fucking ass. Bow down and worship me.
That's not a loving god! That's just the motherfucker in charge like in any dictatorship.
All of that's really irrelevant though. I can't simply _decide_ what to believe. If it looked like any of it were remotely true it's what I'd have to believe even if I hated it. The reality is that it's just not true at all. Thank God, pun intended. It's an alternate reality that defies science and history. It didn't happen.
Now there's a scale that rates disbelief which says a 7 is an atheist and anything less is technically an agnostic. Some of the world's greatest minds call themselves agnostic and say they're a 6.9 and I wish they would just can it and say 7 because it confuses the general population who grossly overestimate their uncertainty. It creates a false narrative. Scientists do this because they're so damn technical, but what people don't know is they say this because all we can technically know is that we exist; I think therefore I am. If I'm thinking, there's no way that I don't exist. But I technically can't even be 100% I'm typing this comment. It's technically possible that I'm fucking severely insane, strapped down in a padded room imagining that I'm using a site that doesn't even exist. Technically, I'm a 6.9 on if this is even happening. But let's be real; it is.
People need to understand that this is the uncertainty they're dealing with. If I'm dating a woman and she asks if I'm cheating on her, I'm not going to say, "You know darling, I really can't stress enough how strongly I feel I'm not but I could have had multiple personality disorder for my entire life and my other personality is constantly cheating on you. You might not even exist for all I know."
I'm going to fucking say that I'm not. Sometimes technicality is far from practicality and applicability. It's so tacky to apply such outlandishness to anything else, like the cheating, so I'm not going to here either. Certain truths can be taken as granted, and when they are, yes, I'm a hard fucking 7. So while I might be a 6.9 if answering as technically as some do, it should be known that I would bet my entire life on this for a quarter. If I'm wrong I get tortured to death. If I'm right I get 25 cents. I'd take the bet. That's the kind of certain I am.
The flying spaghetti monster was imagined to help 6.9s explain their position. We're not 100% the Christian god isn't real like we're not 100% the universe wasn't created by a flying spaghetti monster. When you drop the bullshit, we're sure. I'm dropping the bullshit.
That shit didn't happen. Interesting fact: atheism rises with intelligence on average. Can anyone think of anything at all that people are actually more likely to be _wrong_ about the more intelligent they are? Show of hands?
I hate to be so brutal. I honestly do and I know it means a lot to some people. And if it were the flying spaghetti monster I could just lightly bust their chops in a friendly manner and let it go, but the fact is that this stuff breeds some truly fucking horrible shit, especially for women, and I can't be asked to sit back and pretend to agree to disagree like it's a discussion about our favorite color.
If you'd rather hear the scientific reasoning for why there's zero chance, I can offer that too.
We dont have the capacity to even determine if we are in a simulation or not. I dont think being absolute about any theist vs atheist postions are both equally ignorant about the larger complexity of the universe, inherently reality itself.
The best guess we had is a giant ass explosion happening 14 billion years ago. Before that? Fuck if we know, time literally didnt exsist before the big bang.
Whatever created the big bang is by default God. Whether or not its just happenstance or creative design is difficult to ascertain.
I'm not sure if you saw my other comment on this, but exactly; the temporal dimension (time) was created with the Big Bang. So it's not that we don't know what happened "before" the Big Bang; it's that there _was_ no before the Big Bang.
Therefore _no one_ created the Big Bang because they didn't have _time_ to. That's not a pun; it/they just quite literally wouldn't have had time to. That's what we tend to point out most often, probably because it's most profound, but it's worth mentioning that the spatial dimensions (space) were created with the Big Bang as well. So no creator even had a medium or mechanism to exist at all "before" the Big Bang, and again, even if it did, this moment simply doesn't exist.
It's therefore impossible for there to be a creator. How did something come from nothing then? We don't claim to know everything yet, it's possible we never will with current human intelligence without merging with artificial intelligence in the future, but it almost certainly has something major to do with mathematics, equalities, and in particular zero, the "magic" number.
Even if nothing physically existed, mathematics will eternally conceptually exist with or without an observer. 2 plus 2 will always equal 4. It's the purest logic. So let's look at some _really_ simple equalities, paying attention to the fact that both sides of the equal sign have the same value:
4=4
2+2=4
1+1+2=4
Now let's look at the killer:
(-1)+1=0
Negative one plus one is equal to zero. This means that in terms of value, nothingness is the exact same thing as positive something plus negative something.
In fact we see this obsession everywhere. Positive charge and negative charge. Matter and antimatter. Positive spin and negative spin. It's the life blood of our universe.
Now get this: The total sum of energy in our universe really appears to be outright zero as best as we can tell when we define the positive as the energy converted to matter in the beginning and the negative is thought of as the effects of gravity. This is _not_ a coincidence.
The plot thickens: Fluctuations in quantum fields often cause particle and antiparticle pairs to seemingly spring into existence and then mutually annihilate one another, seemingly going back to "nothingness". This happens all the time.
But what would cause the spontaneous creation of our universe even if we have a mechanism for it to come from zero? The answer is that there is no cause. It's difficult for us to wrap our heads around this because of the nature of cause and effect and how deeply ingrained its usually form is in our intuition, not unlike the intuitive assumption that a particle can't exist in more than one place at a time (this is called a superposition and they very much actually do exist, intuition be damned).
Our brains evolved in Africa to do things like predict the trajectories of objects so we could throw things meaningfully. Before developing technology our brains had really only developed to _intuitively_ understand movement in the macroscopic world and little else. Due to this the microscopic world, infinities, superpositions, and causeless effects don't come very naturally for us at all.
Cause and effect is generally a temporal function. It involves time. Remembering that time was created in the instant of the Big Bang, if we define the creation of the Big Bang as the effect, there's no time for the cause to exist in.
In summary, because mathematics is perpetually conceptual, the universe manifested, as there's simply no way around it. This had to happen. It is what it is. This not only doesn't require a god, but it leaves no room for one.
A bigger question is one regarding why we even need to go this deep to debunk a god in general when virtually all the _invidual_ major ones are so easily discovered to be non-existent. At a certain point one ought to say, "If it looks like a duck, it walks like a duck, and it fucks like a duck, it's the fact that there's no god."
Every religion is already saying around 4,300 other religions are obviously BS; atheism just takes that one religion further.
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I'm an atheist because of how insanely obvious it is that there's no god.
This is actually the only good thing about texts like the Bible being so horrible. Otherwise this would be quite the blow, losing the potential for eternal life, but fortunately the texts are so horrible that it's actually better not to have eternal life than to discover you live in the sort of world described, ruled by such an unthinkable evil in absolute control.
The Bible specifically reads about like what you would get if you asked a pissed off Trump supporter who is 100% convinced his wife is cheating on him and who has a weird obsession with his daughter's virginity to make up a religion. It's absolutely fucking horrible. If a woman doesn't scream when raped, she loved it, and you should stone her to death. If a man sleeps with his wife for the first time and thinks she doesn't feel like a virgin, he should stone her to death on her father's doorstep and the father should participate for giving this poor man such a shitty daughter. Gay? Get the stones. Wrong god? Stones. Wife smashes another dude's balls to stop him from killing you? Cut her hand off (yes I'm fucking serious, it actually felt the need to address this unlikely scenario). She wanted to touch that dick. Either way, she did, so the hand has to go now because obviously it's completely worthless now just like her entire being would be if she'd had sex before meeting you.
And I don't want to hear all that "that was the old law" bullshit. We can argue all day about the fact that Jesus says he doesn't come to change it or that the New Testament is still pretty bad, but at the end of the day it doesn't fucking matter. Know why? Because for one it's completely unthinkable that an all-powerful deity fucked up the first time anyway. It is completely unacceptable. Whoops! Sorry guys. You don't get to change your goddamn mind after that big of a fuck up and still act like there's still anything special about you. That's shit most humans don't fuck up that badly. Whoops. I was accidentally Hitler for a minute there. Sorry about being a sexist piece of shit and making you kill your daughter that time. My bad. By the way I'm still bad fucking ass. Bow down and worship me.
That's not a loving god! That's just the motherfucker in charge like in any dictatorship.
All of that's really irrelevant though. I can't simply _decide_ what to believe. If it looked like any of it were remotely true it's what I'd have to believe even if I hated it. The reality is that it's just not true at all. Thank God, pun intended. It's an alternate reality that defies science and history. It didn't happen.
Now there's a scale that rates disbelief which says a 7 is an atheist and anything less is technically an agnostic. Some of the world's greatest minds call themselves agnostic and say they're a 6.9 and I wish they would just can it and say 7 because it confuses the general population who grossly overestimate their uncertainty. It creates a false narrative. Scientists do this because they're so damn technical, but what people don't know is they say this because all we can technically know is that we exist; I think therefore I am. If I'm thinking, there's no way that I don't exist. But I technically can't even be 100% I'm typing this comment. It's technically possible that I'm fucking severely insane, strapped down in a padded room imagining that I'm using a site that doesn't even exist. Technically, I'm a 6.9 on if this is even happening. But let's be real; it is.
People need to understand that this is the uncertainty they're dealing with. If I'm dating a woman and she asks if I'm cheating on her, I'm not going to say, "You know darling, I really can't stress enough how strongly I feel I'm not but I could have had multiple personality disorder for my entire life and my other personality is constantly cheating on you. You might not even exist for all I know."
I'm going to fucking say that I'm not. Sometimes technicality is far from practicality and applicability. It's so tacky to apply such outlandishness to anything else, like the cheating, so I'm not going to here either. Certain truths can be taken as granted, and when they are, yes, I'm a hard fucking 7. So while I might be a 6.9 if answering as technically as some do, it should be known that I would bet my entire life on this for a quarter. If I'm wrong I get tortured to death. If I'm right I get 25 cents. I'd take the bet. That's the kind of certain I am.
The flying spaghetti monster was imagined to help 6.9s explain their position. We're not 100% the Christian god isn't real like we're not 100% the universe wasn't created by a flying spaghetti monster. When you drop the bullshit, we're sure. I'm dropping the bullshit.
That shit didn't happen. Interesting fact: atheism rises with intelligence on average. Can anyone think of anything at all that people are actually more likely to be _wrong_ about the more intelligent they are? Show of hands?
I hate to be so brutal. I honestly do and I know it means a lot to some people. And if it were the flying spaghetti monster I could just lightly bust their chops in a friendly manner and let it go, but the fact is that this stuff breeds some truly fucking horrible shit, especially for women, and I can't be asked to sit back and pretend to agree to disagree like it's a discussion about our favorite color.
If you'd rather hear the scientific reasoning for why there's zero chance, I can offer that too.
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We dont have the capacity to even determine if we are in a simulation or not. I dont think being absolute about any theist vs atheist postions are both equally ignorant about the larger complexity of the universe, inherently reality itself.
The best guess we had is a giant ass explosion happening 14 billion years ago. Before that? Fuck if we know, time literally didnt exsist before the big bang.
Whatever created the big bang is by default God. Whether or not its just happenstance or creative design is difficult to ascertain.
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I'm not sure if you saw my other comment on this, but exactly; the temporal dimension (time) was created with the Big Bang. So it's not that we don't know what happened "before" the Big Bang; it's that there _was_ no before the Big Bang.
Therefore _no one_ created the Big Bang because they didn't have _time_ to. That's not a pun; it/they just quite literally wouldn't have had time to. That's what we tend to point out most often, probably because it's most profound, but it's worth mentioning that the spatial dimensions (space) were created with the Big Bang as well. So no creator even had a medium or mechanism to exist at all "before" the Big Bang, and again, even if it did, this moment simply doesn't exist.
It's therefore impossible for there to be a creator. How did something come from nothing then? We don't claim to know everything yet, it's possible we never will with current human intelligence without merging with artificial intelligence in the future, but it almost certainly has something major to do with mathematics, equalities, and in particular zero, the "magic" number.
Even if nothing physically existed, mathematics will eternally conceptually exist with or without an observer. 2 plus 2 will always equal 4. It's the purest logic. So let's look at some _really_ simple equalities, paying attention to the fact that both sides of the equal sign have the same value:
4=4
2+2=4
1+1+2=4
Now let's look at the killer:
(-1)+1=0
Negative one plus one is equal to zero. This means that in terms of value, nothingness is the exact same thing as positive something plus negative something.
In fact we see this obsession everywhere. Positive charge and negative charge. Matter and antimatter. Positive spin and negative spin. It's the life blood of our universe.
Now get this: The total sum of energy in our universe really appears to be outright zero as best as we can tell when we define the positive as the energy converted to matter in the beginning and the negative is thought of as the effects of gravity. This is _not_ a coincidence.
The plot thickens: Fluctuations in quantum fields often cause particle and antiparticle pairs to seemingly spring into existence and then mutually annihilate one another, seemingly going back to "nothingness". This happens all the time.
But what would cause the spontaneous creation of our universe even if we have a mechanism for it to come from zero? The answer is that there is no cause. It's difficult for us to wrap our heads around this because of the nature of cause and effect and how deeply ingrained its usually form is in our intuition, not unlike the intuitive assumption that a particle can't exist in more than one place at a time (this is called a superposition and they very much actually do exist, intuition be damned).
Our brains evolved in Africa to do things like predict the trajectories of objects so we could throw things meaningfully. Before developing technology our brains had really only developed to _intuitively_ understand movement in the macroscopic world and little else. Due to this the microscopic world, infinities, superpositions, and causeless effects don't come very naturally for us at all.
Cause and effect is generally a temporal function. It involves time. Remembering that time was created in the instant of the Big Bang, if we define the creation of the Big Bang as the effect, there's no time for the cause to exist in.
In summary, because mathematics is perpetually conceptual, the universe manifested, as there's simply no way around it. This had to happen. It is what it is. This not only doesn't require a god, but it leaves no room for one.
A bigger question is one regarding why we even need to go this deep to debunk a god in general when virtually all the _invidual_ major ones are so easily discovered to be non-existent. At a certain point one ought to say, "If it looks like a duck, it walks like a duck, and it fucks like a duck, it's the fact that there's no god."
Every religion is already saying around 4,300 other religions are obviously BS; atheism just takes that one religion further.