Why are the genders at war?

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  • The problem is some modern day "feminist" believe that it's about hating men and there are lots of them that do.

    Those are the ones that get noticed because they are very...hmmm....what's the word...outspoken? Yeah lets go with that. They are pushing their message with their hatred and those words tend to carry farther than the ones said in moderation.

    I'm not a feminist, I don't pretend to be nor do I allow people to think that because the word has taken on a bit of an extreme connotation in today's world. I tell people the real message, the message behind traditional feminism.

    I'm looking for equality for everyone.

    Not just for me, but for everyone regardless of their gender or their skin color or where they are from. I want people to be happy and healthy.

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    • Why do you say you're not a feminist and then make a statement which is pure feminism?

      This rubbish has been going on at least since the 70's, when women would say "I'm not a women's libber, but ........." and then come out with quite radical feminist statements.

      Who are all these modern day feminists who believe feminism is about hating men? You are letting right wingers and the media brainwash you, sister

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      • Because it goes beyond what feminism is, that and I just don't much care for the label when I want human equality, not just equality for women.

        And...I'm not quite as much of a sister as you might think...I was born a boy and though I'm not exactly one still I'm also not exactly a girl.

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        • Well that explains a lot. In my experience the vast majority of m2f people take on all the "feminine" stereotypes feminists have been trying to break down for centuries.

          As far as "equality" goes, I just have to quote an old bumper sticker from the 70's: Women who want to be equal to men lack ambition."

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          • You're not wrong, I'm far more girly than most every girl I've ever met and I enjoy the super girly things that are stereotypical girl things. For instance Pink, I love like pastels and baby pink stuff. I like Lace and ruffles and those sorts of things. Skirts and dresses especially the overly feminine ones. It's not to say I'm basically taking a page out of the perfect housewife book or anything because there are lots of things I like that aren't stereotypical girl things or things that I just don't care for. For Instance I Like cars and working on cars and I suck at cooking and baking.

            That being said however I don't think Equality is a wrong way to approach things either and your quote from the old bumper sticker is exactly the problem a lot of people have with feminism and how it is today. There are plenty that seek superiority and I refuse to support that.

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            • The bumper sticker wasn't about feminists wanting to be superior to men, it was questioning the concept of women wanting to be "equal" in an exploitative inherently unequal system.

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    • HUMANITARIANISM! Hoorah!
      Sorry, just felt like saying that.

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