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Why does it seem like there are so many mass-shootings nowadays? In the past, mass-shootings were pretty rare events, and got lots of media coverage when it happened. Now it's so common that you're not even shocked anymore.
Mass shootings arwnt any more common than they were theyre just reported more. And the ones that are promoted have to fit a certain narrative (crazy mentally ill person). Mass shooting is 4 people shot. Theres a mass shooting almost every day in Chicago. The ones where the gunman is shot by other civilians before he kills others is never covered. Few years ago there was a black kid who shot up a school and got shot by a civilian and it got 0 media coverage.
ITS CALLED FREE WILL AND WERE HUMAN BEINGS GOOD AND BAD GOD OR THE DEVIL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT..JUST SICK PEOPLE BEST WE CAN DO IS PRAY FOR THE VICTIMS AND THERE FAMILIES
How does that relate to 1WeirdGuy's comment? The only comment that even mentions God is mine. What you just said, though, is completely wrong. Human free will allows humans to accept the goodness of God, and the lack of sin that comes with it, or reject the goodness of God, and forever be a servant of the Devil; a servant of sin.
It used to be that a mass shooting was defined as at least 5 people killed by a stranger. Now a guy shooting his wife & her boyfriend then himself is called a mass shooting. It didn't used to be. The public wasn't in danger. (Unless you were fucking the guys wife too.) Plus now the media has an agenda and there's more competition for ratings so they play it up for all they can. The actual Gun homicide rate in the US is still far below what it was in the 1980's and 90's but it seems worse due to all the media attention and the democrats fearmongering.
Vote for us and we'll keep you safe from XY & Z.
"Vote for us and we'll keep you safe from XY & Z."
But that's literally the conservative agenda. Aside from guns, liberals have always been the ones more willing to accept things that seem dangerous to conservatives. Social conservatism is very fear based. Close the borders. Nationalism. No transgenderism.
I'm not saying there's no need for the balance but science has literally confirmed that the brains of conservatives tend to more heavily process fear of the unknown.
It's why so many conservatives believe shit like Q and think Democrats are Reptilian Satanists eating babies under pizzerias while liberals just think conservatives are selfish but don't believe crazy shit like that about them.
Liberals just thought another Trump term would suck ass. Conservatives think the end times are coming because Biden won.
Both sides use fear tactics. Just right now the topic of this post is mass shootings. I could make a long list of examples from both sides doing it.
Social conservatism is not fear based. Open borders and globalism require compromise with people of false beliefs, which is wrong. Transgenderism goes against the truth.
Because the news perpetuates them. People really aren't that original. If you're a nutter and want to make a name for yourself then there's very obvious way to do it in the modern age. If the news didn't milk every mass shooting till it was dry then I really don't see as many happening.
I understand someone downvoting me, since this website's full of atheists, but someone downvoted you, despite the fact that it is generally well known that many mass shootings happen by desperate people who do it for the attention.
Are there really that many atheists here? I only know of a few. This place feels noticably more conservative than the general population.
I'm not the one who voted you down, by the way, although I do of course disagree.
The plurality of the people on here are atheists, from what I know, followed by agnostics, then Christians. You can always make a poll if you want to check that, though, since I don't feel like doing it.
Looking at a post asking why one is an atheist, only 5 out of 22 posters claimed to be atheists, and this was a post specifically summoning us. I suspect the majority here are relatively silent Christians, just like gen-pop.
You have to remember atheists and agnostics are overwhelmingly more likely to mention it at all because they usually really have something to say about it. Most Christians aren't like you, and often aren't even entirely committed although they haven't rejected it. They tend to just pass over questions like that to avoid conflict.
As much as I'd love to think the majority are atheists here, aside from forums actually dedicated to atheism, that's a phenomenon I've only experienced in physics groups.
Which post was this? I think I remember it, but the search feature on this website is completely useless, so I can't find it. If I recall correctly, there was a post that went alongside that one calling for religious people, asking why they believe, that only got a few comments. Also, I didn't comment on the one asking why people are religious for quite some time, if I did at all, so it only makes sense that the atheist one would also have quite a few people who didn't respond.
Thanks bro, yeah I'm really surprised more people don't see this. It's pretty obvious.
Society has driven itself farther from God, and when you're farther from God, more evil is allowed to happen to you.
We didn’t know how many serial killers were not caught back then, and we don’t now. I will cite Israel Keyes as a modern example that they adapt along with the progress of technology, just like other criminals have. And far too statistically rare to draw any real conclusions on. Because it is in their interest to remain anonymous we must assume we have no idea.
Most of the time we have no idea there is a serial killer even operating until after they are caught. Often by total accident and it just unravels. New York’s most prolific serial killer was caught because he had a broken tail light, got pulled over for it with a body in the car lol.
They are a much different character to a mass killer, murder is pretty much the only thing they have in common.
As for mass shootings, it’s clearly risen with the advent of wide spread social media. Mass shooting is generally a soap box for the idiot shooter venting his frustration with the world. Frustration caused by his being an asshole who expects the world to solve his problems while he puts in no effort to fix them. Every little thing pisses them off because they are inflexible and intolerant, it builds up and they “act out on the way out.”
They were also separated from God, and different things happened to them for that.
Thank god for DNA evidence. That's the primary reasons why we dont see serial killers that often anymore. Most of those would be serial killers get caught on their first or second murder before it becomes a spree.
They get caught easier but still not usually the first time. The sad truth is that it's basically wicked easy to kill a person or two if you have no connection to them and no reason to be questioned or tested.
Because it's wicked easy to get an assault weapon and go give a big "fuck you" to society.
One of the last shooters actually left a note that said, "Thanks for making it so easy to get a gun."
The Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter also infamously joked about how easy it was.
This.
But no. Mass spoon stabbings would totally be a think if the USA had decent gun laws. Cos you can totally stab as many people with a spoon in 5mins as you can shoot with a fuck off gun.
It was a bit harder in the 80s until 86 when a gun control act was repealed.
Either way, the problem wasn't as pronounced until it was repeatedly demonstrated to the world that this is a thing one can _easily_ do instead of merely committing suicide. It started gaining traction with would-be suicides after Columbine.
Also even if you ban guns violent people will still be violent. Get a man pissed off enough and they would do a mass stabbing with a spoon.
I kind of think the guy with the spoon would get his throat stomped by the crowd before he did terribly much.
Extreme example of the safest weapon someone could use. Nearly everything else is more dangerous. That's without going into the basic chemistry needed to make bombs and dangerous gasses. If someone wants to commit mass murder they are gonna do it, doesnt matter if they have a gun or not. Murders be murderers. Dont take the guns away from us normal people who weren't gonna break the law in the first place.
Because Americans would be deeply opressed if they weren't allowed guns, it would infringe upon their precious freedom that they totally have and is totally not an illusion.
We don't have shootings here. Guess why
Because there are crazy people out there who want to actually do something horrible whether it was intentional or not. It is also the same way that how people who kill each other are so common nowadays, I can't count how many times how people kill someone. Every minute and every second a mass shooting article comes up, from what my understanding it can happen everywhere/anywhere but as what I have understood, the USA has a lot of mass shootings throughout the past year and past years.
I don't feel like an enlargement, so I'm Not going to write my belief on the subject. I do think I'm right and I also think it's an unpopular view with a big segment of the US. I did feel like writing I had an opinion without specifying what it is
Right because mind control is more likely than people simply realizing it's a super easy "fuck you" to the world that drove soon-to-be suicides to want to die.
Haven't you yourself discussed hitting people with a car? You get it. Even if you're pro-gun there's no logically denying what's happening.
It's nuts how many shooters now basically leave LOL notes about how easy it was.
The difference there is self control, every time I think to my self “god I could just mount the pavement and tear these bitches limbs off” I always decide not to do it. Those boys who commit mass shootings would have that same self control if their minds hadn’t been weakened and altered
I'm not arguing whether or not they _should_ have that control. The point is that they don't and that's why the shootings happen.
Hey, don't give all the credit to the boys though. It was a girl who shot up an elementary school because, "I don't like Mondays."
They can play too.
As for your self-control, is that because you would feel guilty or because you don't want to do time? The central issue in the majority of cases is that more people have realized that you have a get-out-of-jail-free card you can play if you've decided on suicide. They have a brief window in which they can basically do whatever they want with absolute disregard for the law.
They _really_ count on that suicide. It's not uncommon that the more efficient ones bring two handguns in addition to their primary weapon just in case not one but two guns jam as police arrive. They're usually hardcore not planning on facing the consequences.
I don’t want to kill myself or be in prison, nor does any mentally normal person. Their minds have been fundamentally altered to the point where going a shooting spree then killing themselves seems like a valid life plan. Something has pushed them in that direction. It’s not a coincidence that historically there were almost no mass murders then then suddenly when MKUltra started, every American boy decided getting his lunch money stolen was enough to entice him to take an AK-47 to school
Of course it's coincidence, as anyone with a modicum of knowledge about neuroscience, pharmacology, or even brain-computer interfaces understands that we're nowhere even close to capable of the sort of direct mind control necessary to force someone to plan and execute a mass murder.
MKUltra in a nutshell was only successful in demonstrating the common sense fact that it's easier to get a confession out of a drugged person, especially after crippling their will with torture.
The closest they got to the sort of control conspiracy theorists like to believe in was placing electrodes in the brains of dogs. Even still the dogs were required to wear external harnesses and could only be stimulated for up to about 100 meters. The electrodes were constantly infected and the dogs were essentially no more controlled than a dog equipped with a shock collar and coerced to stay in certain areas.
The fact is that hypnosis is essentially fake for most intents and purposes and brain-computer interfaces currently have no meaningful way to translate terribly complex information between digital zeros and ones and the biological system of the brain. This is true even in 2021 with the cutting edge interfaces like Musk's Neuralink. We're as far from implanting and so complexly controlling human behavior as people in the mid 1800s were to walking on Mars. Our understanding of how the human brain works at all is pitiful, moreso our chances of remotely controlling it.
Furthermore, autopsies and mere review of their usually reclusive lives elucidates the fact that none of this has been done to them. The fact is that mass murders have been on the rise every decade for a century, a phenomenon that began before MKUltra, and we're experiencing it beginning to approach the nearly verticle ascension of an exponential curve. Perhaps a better question would be asking yourself how, given the data, we _wouldn't_ be here by now. This was the inevitable destination of the trajectory we were already on.
It's a bit like asking evolution deniers a few questions. I ask them to instead of placing the burden of proof on evolution, explain to me how evolution _wouldn't_ gradually occur given that offspring inherit genes from parents and more successful genes get passed on more. Shit is going to change. It's not a radical proposal but an inescapable outcome. This is just like that. This was inevitable.
Then, even if we pretend it's not beyond impossible, we have to ask what the motivation would be. What, taking the precious guns? The US doesn't need to take the guns because it does not give a fuck about them and the notion of the people controlling the most powerful militaristic entity in the history of the planet has been ridiculous since WWII. The musket days have been over for a while. We have smart weapons capable of utterly crushing internal insurgency and with minimal collateral damage. Even if they wanted the guns they would just force legislation from the shadows.
Cooking up something as farfetched as MKUltra to do something otherwise terribly easily done is like building a Transformer-like robot to pick up and move a car a few meters when you have the keys to the car.