"only believe in the first 3 letters of the acronym anyway."
"I like watching birds!" / "Sorry, I don't believe in bird-watchers."
"Hi, my name is Scott." / "No, your name is Tom." / "What do you mean? I'm Scott." / "Scott isn't a real thing. You're Tom."
"Do you want to go eat pasta?" / "I only believe in Mexican food."
"I would get on this Uber, but the car is grey and I only believe in dark blue cars."
Do you see how ridiculous that sounds?
"You like what you like, but why do you need to make up a label for yourself that most people can't pronounce and force me to call you that?"
The same goes for religion, ethnicity, even hobbies. Take a glance at Wikipedia's list of Christian denominations, for example - I certainly think that "Presbyterian", just to pick out a random one, is a pretty difficult-to-pronounce label. Would you say someone is being ridiculous if they're a Canada-born Japanese-American? Or perhaps a fan of soft sci-fi mystery novels with nonlinear narratives is making up labels?
None of those specific examples matter, of course: my point is, labels are things we create to better describe who we are and what other things might be. It's language. Your seemingly irrational hatred of sexual orientation and gender-related "labels" is a reflection of your bigoted thinking.
I'm guessing that you're imagining a world in which a failure to identify someone as an aromantic demigirl (which, by the way, is a perfectly valid identity) would lead to an angry witch hunt, which is a world that does not, and hopefully will not ever, exist. Don't judge liberals by the extremists you see mocked online.
I live in a very liberal area, and I've misgendered people quite a bit - it's like mispronouncing someone's name: a little awkward, sure, but you just correct it and move on and nobody thinks lesser of you. What's up with this "forcing me to call you that?" If you wouldn't hesitate to call someone an Orthodox Christian or an Indian, what problem do you see here?
Wow! Didn't expect a serious response, but fair enough. First allow me to elaborate on my stance. The part about forcing me to call them something I can't pronounce was mostly a joke. I said it because I worked with a guy a few years ago who was 'demisexual' and he heard me pronounce it wrong a few times and hated my guts for it. And to be brutally honest, I can't even remember what demisexual means. But I thought that was pathetic that he got so worked up about that.
Also, I do believe that for simplicity sake, people who think there are like a gazillion different sexualities should not expect everyone else to respect that. It is making something that should be simple, complicated. That is also why all your examples except for the religion one, don't apply at all. I could explain why they don't work individually, but I will spare my time.
Also, PLEASE TAKE NOTE, that I am not opposed to unique sexuality. I am quite a kinky fucker myself, and have had what I reckon are similar challenges. I just don't see why people of all these obscure and detailed sexual identities even give two shits about what other people think? Sexuality is far too complex to sum up for a unique individual in a single word, no matter how long you make it. Within sanity and legality, you can be whatever the fuck you want, and even call yourself whatever you want. But the only things I will recongnize about you, are the two distinct genders, and the sexual orientations or staright, gay, lesbian or bi. Also asexual, if that counts.
Well, that guy does sound pretty pathetic. I'd like to hear why it's okay for religion, but not sexuality, though.
It just doesn't make much sense to me for you to "refuse to recognize" more than four sexualities. I get what you're trying to say - that everyone's sexuality is different in some way anyways, so making specific labels is pointless - but why impose that judgement on others? If someone else (who isn't being unreasonable, like the guy you mentioned) wants to use more specific terms, why not just roll with it?
So first, to adress the religion anaology. You have a point in that people make it complicated and what you to know all about it, ect. It is quite similar. But some things are different. Usually religious people don't take it as seriosly, at least from what I can see. With sexualities, people usually take it more personally, because it affects them in the short term. What I am saying, is that what religion you are, does not USUALLY affect your everyday life and social interactions as much as sexuality.(with the exception of extreme religious zealots) Like if I found out a friend of mine was protestant or whatever, that does not really change how I see him as much as If I find out he has some unique sexuality.
The whole recongnition thing is kind of a grey area, but bear with me. I do not think that all these sexualities don't exist, merely that they should not be recognized by everyone. No two peoples sexualities are the same, and so trying to come up with a name for every possibility is unnecessary. In my opinion of course! So I think instead of making new identities, people should understand that you can be a straight male, and have vastly different tastes of fixations than others. I just don't think it us something we should make complicated. And that is my opinion, and you can disagree without us hating eachother!
"What I am saying, is that what religion you are, does not USUALLY affect your everyday life and social interactions as much as sexuality.(with the exception of extreme religious zealots) Like if I found out a friend of mine was protestant or whatever, that does not really change how I see him as much as If I find out he has some unique sexuality."
Why?
"I do not think that all these sexualities don't exist, merely that they should not be recognized by everyone. No two peoples sexualities are the same, and so trying to come up with a name for every possibility is unnecessary."
A lot of distinctions are technically unnecessary - that doesn't mean they aren't useful. You acknowledge sexuality is complicated - then say that "we shouldn't make it complicated." Why shouldn't these sexualities be recognized? If you just want to describe yourself as a straight male, that's perfectly fine - but maybe other people don't want to describe themselves that way.
Who here is LGBT?
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"only believe in the first 3 letters of the acronym anyway."
"I like watching birds!" / "Sorry, I don't believe in bird-watchers."
"Hi, my name is Scott." / "No, your name is Tom." / "What do you mean? I'm Scott." / "Scott isn't a real thing. You're Tom."
"Do you want to go eat pasta?" / "I only believe in Mexican food."
"I would get on this Uber, but the car is grey and I only believe in dark blue cars."
Do you see how ridiculous that sounds?
"You like what you like, but why do you need to make up a label for yourself that most people can't pronounce and force me to call you that?"
The same goes for religion, ethnicity, even hobbies. Take a glance at Wikipedia's list of Christian denominations, for example - I certainly think that "Presbyterian", just to pick out a random one, is a pretty difficult-to-pronounce label. Would you say someone is being ridiculous if they're a Canada-born Japanese-American? Or perhaps a fan of soft sci-fi mystery novels with nonlinear narratives is making up labels?
None of those specific examples matter, of course: my point is, labels are things we create to better describe who we are and what other things might be. It's language. Your seemingly irrational hatred of sexual orientation and gender-related "labels" is a reflection of your bigoted thinking.
I'm guessing that you're imagining a world in which a failure to identify someone as an aromantic demigirl (which, by the way, is a perfectly valid identity) would lead to an angry witch hunt, which is a world that does not, and hopefully will not ever, exist. Don't judge liberals by the extremists you see mocked online.
I live in a very liberal area, and I've misgendered people quite a bit - it's like mispronouncing someone's name: a little awkward, sure, but you just correct it and move on and nobody thinks lesser of you. What's up with this "forcing me to call you that?" If you wouldn't hesitate to call someone an Orthodox Christian or an Indian, what problem do you see here?
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Wow! Didn't expect a serious response, but fair enough. First allow me to elaborate on my stance. The part about forcing me to call them something I can't pronounce was mostly a joke. I said it because I worked with a guy a few years ago who was 'demisexual' and he heard me pronounce it wrong a few times and hated my guts for it. And to be brutally honest, I can't even remember what demisexual means. But I thought that was pathetic that he got so worked up about that.
Also, I do believe that for simplicity sake, people who think there are like a gazillion different sexualities should not expect everyone else to respect that. It is making something that should be simple, complicated. That is also why all your examples except for the religion one, don't apply at all. I could explain why they don't work individually, but I will spare my time.
Also, PLEASE TAKE NOTE, that I am not opposed to unique sexuality. I am quite a kinky fucker myself, and have had what I reckon are similar challenges. I just don't see why people of all these obscure and detailed sexual identities even give two shits about what other people think? Sexuality is far too complex to sum up for a unique individual in a single word, no matter how long you make it. Within sanity and legality, you can be whatever the fuck you want, and even call yourself whatever you want. But the only things I will recongnize about you, are the two distinct genders, and the sexual orientations or staright, gay, lesbian or bi. Also asexual, if that counts.
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Well, that guy does sound pretty pathetic. I'd like to hear why it's okay for religion, but not sexuality, though.
It just doesn't make much sense to me for you to "refuse to recognize" more than four sexualities. I get what you're trying to say - that everyone's sexuality is different in some way anyways, so making specific labels is pointless - but why impose that judgement on others? If someone else (who isn't being unreasonable, like the guy you mentioned) wants to use more specific terms, why not just roll with it?
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So first, to adress the religion anaology. You have a point in that people make it complicated and what you to know all about it, ect. It is quite similar. But some things are different. Usually religious people don't take it as seriosly, at least from what I can see. With sexualities, people usually take it more personally, because it affects them in the short term. What I am saying, is that what religion you are, does not USUALLY affect your everyday life and social interactions as much as sexuality.(with the exception of extreme religious zealots) Like if I found out a friend of mine was protestant or whatever, that does not really change how I see him as much as If I find out he has some unique sexuality.
The whole recongnition thing is kind of a grey area, but bear with me. I do not think that all these sexualities don't exist, merely that they should not be recognized by everyone. No two peoples sexualities are the same, and so trying to come up with a name for every possibility is unnecessary. In my opinion of course! So I think instead of making new identities, people should understand that you can be a straight male, and have vastly different tastes of fixations than others. I just don't think it us something we should make complicated. And that is my opinion, and you can disagree without us hating eachother!
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"What I am saying, is that what religion you are, does not USUALLY affect your everyday life and social interactions as much as sexuality.(with the exception of extreme religious zealots) Like if I found out a friend of mine was protestant or whatever, that does not really change how I see him as much as If I find out he has some unique sexuality."
Why?
"I do not think that all these sexualities don't exist, merely that they should not be recognized by everyone. No two peoples sexualities are the same, and so trying to come up with a name for every possibility is unnecessary."
A lot of distinctions are technically unnecessary - that doesn't mean they aren't useful. You acknowledge sexuality is complicated - then say that "we shouldn't make it complicated." Why shouldn't these sexualities be recognized? If you just want to describe yourself as a straight male, that's perfectly fine - but maybe other people don't want to describe themselves that way.