Racial tension will always exist but it's heavily amplified by income inequality. We don't need socialism, we need young blacks to be able to get jobs. Improving the economy will improve race relations.
Blacks are incompatible with western civilization as they are two standard deviations below white levels intelligence wise. Of fucking course there will be income inequalities. Blacks should just live among other blacks to balance things out on a level playing field. Whites with whites, blacks with blacks.
Never want to go full /pol/. Differences in aptitude for learning are not the source of gang violence or incarceration rates. Your parent's tax bracket, the wealth of your neighborhood, your current state of employment--these hold far more sway over your behavior and interests than an IQ deviation will.
We both know that 'political correctness' is a bunch of bull. Doesn't make the extreme opposite viewpoints correct. Realtalk is an easy slippery slope to fall down, and at some point it no longer portrays reality.
Yup... here come the mental gymnastics, as expected. Of course everything would deflect off of your thick skull.
Your IQ determines how well you do in life, not the other way around. Historical patterns prove it over and over again. Blacks have higher testosterone level, which causes them to be predisposed towards violent behavior. This is why men are more violent whan women. Correlation does equal causation in this case. Smart people tend to do a lot better in life than utter morons who usually end up on the bottom of the social barrel. Which happens to be common place for blacks. But yea... brainwashed dweebs will come with the same redundant excuses to justify their asinine ideology. Things like "Systemic racism" and "racial profiling" don't exist since the 40's. On the other hand, affirmative action, reverse discrimination and racial quotas, do exist. And they are condoned and enforced within the boundaries of law. There are more poor whites than blacks in the US and they still commit less crimes. So your crappy socio-economic argument doesn't hold water.
Why is the whole black community an epitome of human counterachievement?
Why did Detroit become a basket case, rife with crime, famine and corruption?
Why is every country inhabited by mostly blacks a roach infested, famine riddled, desease plagued shithole.
Why does every beautiful, thriving place that was previously inhabited by whites, turn into banana republic once the demographic shifts towards black majority?
If backing up claims with data, statistics and scientifically proven facts and common sense means going down a slippery slope, then we might as well believe in fairies and leprechauns.
Please come up with a logically coeherent retort next time, instead of making use of unnecessary verbiage. It doesn't help at all. Your whole argument is just a well packaged turd.
You've attributed to me a slew of positions and stances I never claimed to uphold. You then went on to disprove those straw man arguments. But you also complimented me on my tact, in your own way, and so I won't hold it against you. If I can't convince you of anything else, then at least learn from the way I use my words. Your personal attacks weaken what is really a well thought-out perspective.
I'll repeat the original argument I made: racial tension and poor race relations is due most in part to income inequality. I believe the phrase 'income inequality' might have provoked you because of how misused it is these days. The way I am using it simply means a vast difference in income, without the 'everyone is equal' political connotation.
You've given arguments as to why there is an income inequality in the first place. That's perfectly fine. But do we both agree that income inequality (regardless of the factors that cause it) is biggest reason for racial tension? I think we do.
From what I gather the only difference in opinion we have is that you believe IQ to play a greater role in this matter than I do. Regardless of predispositions, we don't see many well-off blacks joining gangs or doing crack. Testosterone levels may hold some merit over aggressiveness, but wealth seems to be a far greater behavioral factor.
My original solution that I offered was that young blacks needed jobs. There are tons of industries in which a 20 IQ difference is not going to make or break your career. Jobs in service, manufacturing, and construction. Tons of positions in accounting, health and every business in between.
This is the crux of why I believe IQ is not the determining factor for income inequality and therefore, racial tension.
I never said there were no innate differences. My point is that the tension and frustration stems moreso on economic problems. Do you personally know any black families who are middle income or higher? Are they really that different?
It's just too tempting to generalize demographics when you aren't familiar with many members of that demographic. It's a trap you don't want to fall into.
Individuals don't make statistics, you fucking buffoon. What you're espousing is a typical politically correct stance. Well, let me shed some light on your darkened, make-believe world of universal equality.
There are distinct biological patterns that amount to each particular race which was determined by the climate and habitat. Those things are mosly innate, hereditary and are subject to change only to an extent. Intelligence, for example, is 80% hereditary and environment has very little influence on the congnitive developement of an individual.
I know this is difficult to grasp for someone like you who's been indoctrinated by the system to renounce reality and embrace eternal guilt, but just try for once to remove your rose tinted glasses and see the world for what it is. It's for your own good.
Just for the record, saying intelligence is 80% hereditary isn't the same as saying that 80% of a person (or group's) intelligence is due to genetics.
It means that 80% of the *variation* in intelligence within a specific population - (usually white middle-class people, for heritability studies, as it happens) - is due to genetics. The other 20% due to environmental factors.
So, the difference between the dumbest and smartest person in a group is 60% - 80% due to genetic difference, 20% environmental difference ..but even then, people dispute this.
And if you think environment has little influence on individual cognitive development, just imagine a child raised in a cardboard box, or a kid raised by wolves. It's going to have a pretty big impact...
I'm not commenting on race relations, I don't really care. This is purely a comment on the statistic, that - the way it was presented seems pretty misleading to me.
So you're probably going to tell me to fuck off, because you seem like a bit of a dick!
Whites are just re-segregating themselves anyway.
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Blacks are incompatible with western civilization as they are two standard deviations below white levels intelligence wise. Of fucking course there will be income inequalities. Blacks should just live among other blacks to balance things out on a level playing field. Whites with whites, blacks with blacks.
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Never want to go full /pol/. Differences in aptitude for learning are not the source of gang violence or incarceration rates. Your parent's tax bracket, the wealth of your neighborhood, your current state of employment--these hold far more sway over your behavior and interests than an IQ deviation will.
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Yup... here come the mental gymnastics, as expected. Of course everything would deflect off of your thick skull.
Your IQ determines how well you do in life, not the other way around. Historical patterns prove it over and over again. Blacks have higher testosterone level, which causes them to be predisposed towards violent behavior. This is why men are more violent whan women. Correlation does equal causation in this case. Smart people tend to do a lot better in life than utter morons who usually end up on the bottom of the social barrel. Which happens to be common place for blacks. But yea... brainwashed dweebs will come with the same redundant excuses to justify their asinine ideology. Things like "Systemic racism" and "racial profiling" don't exist since the 40's. On the other hand, affirmative action, reverse discrimination and racial quotas, do exist. And they are condoned and enforced within the boundaries of law. There are more poor whites than blacks in the US and they still commit less crimes. So your crappy socio-economic argument doesn't hold water.
Why is the whole black community an epitome of human counterachievement?
Why did Detroit become a basket case, rife with crime, famine and corruption?
Why is every country inhabited by mostly blacks a roach infested, famine riddled, desease plagued shithole.
Why does every beautiful, thriving place that was previously inhabited by whites, turn into banana republic once the demographic shifts towards black majority?
If backing up claims with data, statistics and scientifically proven facts and common sense means going down a slippery slope, then we might as well believe in fairies and leprechauns.
Please come up with a logically coeherent retort next time, instead of making use of unnecessary verbiage. It doesn't help at all. Your whole argument is just a well packaged turd.
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You've attributed to me a slew of positions and stances I never claimed to uphold. You then went on to disprove those straw man arguments. But you also complimented me on my tact, in your own way, and so I won't hold it against you. If I can't convince you of anything else, then at least learn from the way I use my words. Your personal attacks weaken what is really a well thought-out perspective.
I'll repeat the original argument I made: racial tension and poor race relations is due most in part to income inequality. I believe the phrase 'income inequality' might have provoked you because of how misused it is these days. The way I am using it simply means a vast difference in income, without the 'everyone is equal' political connotation.
You've given arguments as to why there is an income inequality in the first place. That's perfectly fine. But do we both agree that income inequality (regardless of the factors that cause it) is biggest reason for racial tension? I think we do.
From what I gather the only difference in opinion we have is that you believe IQ to play a greater role in this matter than I do. Regardless of predispositions, we don't see many well-off blacks joining gangs or doing crack. Testosterone levels may hold some merit over aggressiveness, but wealth seems to be a far greater behavioral factor.
My original solution that I offered was that young blacks needed jobs. There are tons of industries in which a 20 IQ difference is not going to make or break your career. Jobs in service, manufacturing, and construction. Tons of positions in accounting, health and every business in between.
This is the crux of why I believe IQ is not the determining factor for income inequality and therefore, racial tension.
agreed.
100% correct.
The young blacks you talk about are vastly outnumbered by another example of that same race that begins with the letter "N".....
I'm sorry it's just the way it is. Differences between races extend beyond just skin color. Attitudes and cultures are VASTLY different as well.
Pretending otherwise is just that....pretending.
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I never said there were no innate differences. My point is that the tension and frustration stems moreso on economic problems. Do you personally know any black families who are middle income or higher? Are they really that different?
It's just too tempting to generalize demographics when you aren't familiar with many members of that demographic. It's a trap you don't want to fall into.
I'm white, and my attitude seems to be VASTLY different than your own. Differences between PEOPLE extend beyond just skin color. Stupid.
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Individuals don't make statistics, you fucking buffoon. What you're espousing is a typical politically correct stance. Well, let me shed some light on your darkened, make-believe world of universal equality.
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I know this is difficult to grasp for someone like you who's been indoctrinated by the system to renounce reality and embrace eternal guilt, but just try for once to remove your rose tinted glasses and see the world for what it is. It's for your own good.
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Just for the record, saying intelligence is 80% hereditary isn't the same as saying that 80% of a person (or group's) intelligence is due to genetics.
It means that 80% of the *variation* in intelligence within a specific population - (usually white middle-class people, for heritability studies, as it happens) - is due to genetics. The other 20% due to environmental factors.
So, the difference between the dumbest and smartest person in a group is 60% - 80% due to genetic difference, 20% environmental difference ..but even then, people dispute this.
And if you think environment has little influence on individual cognitive development, just imagine a child raised in a cardboard box, or a kid raised by wolves. It's going to have a pretty big impact...
I'm not commenting on race relations, I don't really care. This is purely a comment on the statistic, that - the way it was presented seems pretty misleading to me.
So you're probably going to tell me to fuck off, because you seem like a bit of a dick!
But whatever, take it easy!