I think the 3 D Animation is really, really amazing; don't get me wrong. Stuff like Pixar and Dreamworks' movies are great. But I have noticed when I have watched older movies. You can see the limitations in them. Don't believe me? Go back and look at the first Toy Story.
I am a fan of the 2 D hand drawn animations. They are timeless and will remain timeless. Don Bluth tried so hard to return to a "Golden Age of Animation" and sadly has had to face Disney releases which coincide with the releases of all of his major cartoons. 2 D is done with tender loving care, hand drawn, hand painted and they are masterpieces of artwork done in the traditional style.
While the 3 D are masterpieces, they are done on computers and it just doesn't seem quite the same to me.
You think Don Bluth was crushed by Disney? Oh no, it was the reverse my friend. Don Bluth left Disney because the execs were in charge of story. He then made his own movies that nearly destroyed Disney Animation. Great Mouse Detective, Oliver and Company, and the Black Cauldron could not compete with any of the non Disney releases. American Tale and NIMH took the spot light and the money in the box office. Oh and Disney had to compete with Spielberg's Land Before Time as well. No wonder Disney nearly fell. Disney Animation was Bankrupt until Little Mermaid. But by the time Disney's silver age hit Bluth was making terrible movies like Rockadoodle.
And what happened after Disney's silver age? The execs pissed off Katzenberg and he left Disney for Dreamworks. Katzenberg banked on Shrek and then Disney killed it's 2D department once and for all.
Quality of cartoons has slumped for several reasons. I have for instance seen newer Warner Brothers cartoons but they haven't got the same "feel" to them. Something is missing, not quite right or something and it is difficult to articulate and say exactly what.
I think one of the major problems has to do with Political Correctness NINNIES out there who do not want cartoons to show violence because parents who choose to work instead of raising their children, blame violence depicted in cartoons, TV shows, Movies, Video Games and Computer games for incidents when their badly behaved little hell-raisers commit acts of violence against their siblings, friends or others.
Kids don't get values through osmosis; values have to be taught.
And it is ridiculous that court cases are won where parents trying to excuse the bad behavior of their kid and their own negligent parenting from seeing Bugs Bunny clobber Elmer Fudd over the head with a wooden mallet too many times.
As ridiculous as it is, they are winning and they have really toned down a lot of the antics that made those old cartoons funny.
The limits I can see are in older CGI movies. The technology changes too fast, the CGI studios of Pixar and others has to keep pace. Movies released 10 years ago are obvious. Computing power and rendering was a little different and it is apparent on older CGI based cartoons. It is the way I meant that they are limited and will appear so as time continues.
I think a whole new secondary industry will be created in re-working those older films and the owners will find ways to give you four or five editions of the same movie based upon the 3-D modeling they will use to update it.
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I think the 3 D Animation is really, really amazing; don't get me wrong. Stuff like Pixar and Dreamworks' movies are great. But I have noticed when I have watched older movies. You can see the limitations in them. Don't believe me? Go back and look at the first Toy Story.
I am a fan of the 2 D hand drawn animations. They are timeless and will remain timeless. Don Bluth tried so hard to return to a "Golden Age of Animation" and sadly has had to face Disney releases which coincide with the releases of all of his major cartoons. 2 D is done with tender loving care, hand drawn, hand painted and they are masterpieces of artwork done in the traditional style.
While the 3 D are masterpieces, they are done on computers and it just doesn't seem quite the same to me.
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You think Don Bluth was crushed by Disney? Oh no, it was the reverse my friend. Don Bluth left Disney because the execs were in charge of story. He then made his own movies that nearly destroyed Disney Animation. Great Mouse Detective, Oliver and Company, and the Black Cauldron could not compete with any of the non Disney releases. American Tale and NIMH took the spot light and the money in the box office. Oh and Disney had to compete with Spielberg's Land Before Time as well. No wonder Disney nearly fell. Disney Animation was Bankrupt until Little Mermaid. But by the time Disney's silver age hit Bluth was making terrible movies like Rockadoodle.
And what happened after Disney's silver age? The execs pissed off Katzenberg and he left Disney for Dreamworks. Katzenberg banked on Shrek and then Disney killed it's 2D department once and for all.
If it's so limited (thus easier to make), why aren't there anymore good cartoons?
What happened to Tom an Jerry? Road Runner? Pinky and the Brain?
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Quality of cartoons has slumped for several reasons. I have for instance seen newer Warner Brothers cartoons but they haven't got the same "feel" to them. Something is missing, not quite right or something and it is difficult to articulate and say exactly what.
I think one of the major problems has to do with Political Correctness NINNIES out there who do not want cartoons to show violence because parents who choose to work instead of raising their children, blame violence depicted in cartoons, TV shows, Movies, Video Games and Computer games for incidents when their badly behaved little hell-raisers commit acts of violence against their siblings, friends or others.
Kids don't get values through osmosis; values have to be taught.
And it is ridiculous that court cases are won where parents trying to excuse the bad behavior of their kid and their own negligent parenting from seeing Bugs Bunny clobber Elmer Fudd over the head with a wooden mallet too many times.
As ridiculous as it is, they are winning and they have really toned down a lot of the antics that made those old cartoons funny.
The limits I can see are in older CGI movies. The technology changes too fast, the CGI studios of Pixar and others has to keep pace. Movies released 10 years ago are obvious. Computing power and rendering was a little different and it is apparent on older CGI based cartoons. It is the way I meant that they are limited and will appear so as time continues.
I think a whole new secondary industry will be created in re-working those older films and the owners will find ways to give you four or five editions of the same movie based upon the 3-D modeling they will use to update it.