Well if you're dead then what's the difference? Maybe you deserved it anyway but even if you didn't you don't suffer the crime, because you are dead, and you feel nothing. There's no justification in rape EVER while there is in murder, OFTEN.
Yo. Sorry for not responding to the other comments yet. Still have to but there's so much to read and respond to. Aha. So to be fair, you don't have to respond to this, well what I mean is I wouldn't expect you to because I haven't gotten back to you on the other post yet.
I have to say I can't say I agree with your reasons here though. I never understood the idea that someone can deserve death but not rape. I can get what you mean if you mean in defense, heat of the moment and so on but if you mean pre-meditated then I would have to say that if someone deserved murder for something they've done then they could deserve rape. For example, if someone abused children physically, mentally, and sexually, then I don't think them being raped would be a harsh thing at all.
So I suppose it depends on what you mean by justifiable murder. If you mean pre-meditated then could you explain why pre-meditated murder is justifiable but rape isn't?
The thing about being dead and feeling nothing can open up to the whole "drugged rape" argument. I mean the whole saying of the biggest regrets in life is what you choose not to do rather than the things you chose to do can play in, yano? :P
Yes, I mean killing is justified in self defense, getting out of a serious situation, a bystander helping a victim, neutralizing a public threat, things like that. It can even be ok to be premeditated if you have to plan it out in order to escape. Killing can be the right response but I can't see how rape is. How is raping someone going to save anyones life?
Maybe you are talking about a karma type of thing? Like an awful person gets raped and it's ok because they are shit? I can see that in that respect but the rapist in that scenario probably had no personal interest in that individual's crimes, so we have a rapist raping but it's ok because their victim did something shitty? And if it happens in prison I am even more against it because you go to prison to serve your time, not get tortured. It's your right. Some people in prison are innocent even!
I don't think that a drugged rape is comparable to death because obviously you wake up. If you find out afterwards that you were raped, you feel. It's still a crime. It would be like (but not the same as) not discovering a stolen check out of your bank account until you got your bank statement. The theft happened weeks ago, you had no idea, but now that you know you certainly have the right to be upset and press charges.
Ah, right. I get what you mean. I was just trying to see where you were coming from and if you were saying murder was acceptable in cases like revenge to make someone suffer due to how they've made other suffer but that's clearly not what you meant.
Nah, nah. What I mean by someone raping another person for the karma thing was if someone who was victimized by the person they raped was acceptable in the same way we see murder as acceptable, but I think you don't believe that murder is acceptable incase of saving your life or your own so I don't think it's relevent. :P
I get your point about the rape thing and waking up but what if they didn't find out? Would that then be same case as the future thing? Or what if they raped someone while they were drugged and then killed them? Would that make it the same thing? :)
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Well if you're dead then what's the difference? Maybe you deserved it anyway but even if you didn't you don't suffer the crime, because you are dead, and you feel nothing. There's no justification in rape EVER while there is in murder, OFTEN.
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Yo. Sorry for not responding to the other comments yet. Still have to but there's so much to read and respond to. Aha. So to be fair, you don't have to respond to this, well what I mean is I wouldn't expect you to because I haven't gotten back to you on the other post yet.
I have to say I can't say I agree with your reasons here though. I never understood the idea that someone can deserve death but not rape. I can get what you mean if you mean in defense, heat of the moment and so on but if you mean pre-meditated then I would have to say that if someone deserved murder for something they've done then they could deserve rape. For example, if someone abused children physically, mentally, and sexually, then I don't think them being raped would be a harsh thing at all.
So I suppose it depends on what you mean by justifiable murder. If you mean pre-meditated then could you explain why pre-meditated murder is justifiable but rape isn't?
The thing about being dead and feeling nothing can open up to the whole "drugged rape" argument. I mean the whole saying of the biggest regrets in life is what you choose not to do rather than the things you chose to do can play in, yano? :P
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Yes, I mean killing is justified in self defense, getting out of a serious situation, a bystander helping a victim, neutralizing a public threat, things like that. It can even be ok to be premeditated if you have to plan it out in order to escape. Killing can be the right response but I can't see how rape is. How is raping someone going to save anyones life?
Maybe you are talking about a karma type of thing? Like an awful person gets raped and it's ok because they are shit? I can see that in that respect but the rapist in that scenario probably had no personal interest in that individual's crimes, so we have a rapist raping but it's ok because their victim did something shitty? And if it happens in prison I am even more against it because you go to prison to serve your time, not get tortured. It's your right. Some people in prison are innocent even!
I don't think that a drugged rape is comparable to death because obviously you wake up. If you find out afterwards that you were raped, you feel. It's still a crime. It would be like (but not the same as) not discovering a stolen check out of your bank account until you got your bank statement. The theft happened weeks ago, you had no idea, but now that you know you certainly have the right to be upset and press charges.
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Ah, right. I get what you mean. I was just trying to see where you were coming from and if you were saying murder was acceptable in cases like revenge to make someone suffer due to how they've made other suffer but that's clearly not what you meant.
Nah, nah. What I mean by someone raping another person for the karma thing was if someone who was victimized by the person they raped was acceptable in the same way we see murder as acceptable, but I think you don't believe that murder is acceptable incase of saving your life or your own so I don't think it's relevent. :P
I get your point about the rape thing and waking up but what if they didn't find out? Would that then be same case as the future thing? Or what if they raped someone while they were drugged and then killed them? Would that make it the same thing? :)
Hey! Don't worry about it, take your time.
I will respond to this once I get my thoughts together. I started to type but it became a jumbled mess that probably wouldn't make sense.
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Alright, thanks. My day off today but something I'm nervous and confused about's come up so not in the right mind. :(
It's fine. I'd be a right cockbag if I said it's not alright for you to take your time after you said I could. Aha. No rush. :)