Pity. Just like most people, you think that I see every woman beneith every man, regardless of me saying otherwise. I have always said, as a gender males are superior, not that every single man is better than every single woman.
You are implying me a sexist when you are saying a foreign female is an oppurtunity and a foreign man is a nuisance? Erm, excuse me? You are implying I'm sexist? I could sit there and say the same about women, since they "need" inventions made by men to do even half the work they do today, but that would be sexist, right?
A man is an oppurtunity, a woman is a nusiance...Oh, it's only sexist when men get seen in the better light?
Are we reading the same comment here? Nothing about what Neuro said implied that you're "sexist" or that she thinks that you "see every woman beneath every man". She (pretty calmly) explained that there are many more parts of the world in which women are seen as inferior to men, and as such, it tends to be dangerous for women more often than for men. Nobody is saying that only women get persecuted.
Also, you entirely misunderstood her nuisance/opportunity comment. She was saying that in other parts of the world, a female tourist is seen by criminals as an opportunity to sexually harass, whereas men are often seen as impediments to that. She was not saying that men are inherently nuisances or that women are full of opportunities. I realize English isn't your first language, but try not to jump to conclusions.
Furthermore, your original comment is off topic. OP is asking as a woman, which countries may be harshest on women. You cannot seriously argue that South Africa is just as dangerous for men as it is for women. It has one of the highest male-on-female rape statistics in the world. So no, this isn't another story you can turn into a gender flame war.
I think ItDuz can turn anything into a gender flame war.
"How do you feel about peanut butter"
ItDuz: Men are not given enough peanut butter in society. Peanut butter is an invention made by men which others tend to overlook as they let their emotions dictate their logic. When I wrote a poll about peanut butter, most women disagreed that chunky peanut butter was better, therefore proving my theory that women are too afraid to admit their wrongs, when logically chunky peanut butter is better.
"I would imagine that parts of the world that see women as property and men as superior to them (much like you do)"
If you don't see someone as thinking the other gender is property or superior to the other, then I am amazed.
I never denied that it is worse for women in some areas, I was simply stating that it is bad for males in those areas aswell, not worse.
If that is what she meant, then I was wrong, and I apologize to you NeuroNeptunian for not understanding that.
English is my first language, both conclusions were not clear. She didn't mention what she meant, she didn't mention what the woman is an oppurtunity for, so wouldn't I be jumping to conclusions anyway if I was to jump to what you said she meant without her stating that it is what she meant?
I "was" trying to say that the world was dangerous for everybody, implying that we should look out for eachother, but hey, fuck you ItDuz, fuck you for thinking we should all help eachother out, this was a woman matter, when it happens to women, it only happens to women, only when men are victims of something to we change the lable "male" to "humans".
So no, this wasn't me trying to make this a gender flame war.
As for your first point - I missed that, my mistake. And I thought you told me months ago that English wasn't your first language. I guess not.
But as for the rest:
"I never denied that it is worse for women in some areas, I was simply stating that it is bad for males in those areas aswell, not worse."
And I'm saying that's completely irrelevant. OP is asking because she is a woman who is presumably weighing these choices for herself. That's why it's absolutely unnecessary to bring this debate in here when OP is basically just asking for travel advice. For herself, who is a woman. I can't see how you don't understand this. So yes, this is you trying to make this a gender flame war. Just like every other time the word "female" or "male" is mentioned anywhere.
No problem, honest mistake. I will be honest and thought you were insulting me on the English not being my first language part, so if I said anything offensive on that matter, I apologize.
I see what you mean, but there is a comment from Parrish that doesn't give any travel advice, yet has the most thumbs up.
I fail to see how I am a lesser being for "needing" inventions by men? How am I a sexist by "needing" what men have created? Every time you post, you speak of women as if we are all from the same breed of trash- overly emotional and disrespectful whores whose purpose and meaningfulness in society is less than that of a disposable napkin.
A female in a foreign country is an opportunity, because that's what all females in said countries are, opportunities. They are property, they are an opportunity to get laid or being a punching bag for assholes, and foreign females are that same opportunity. Males traveling abroad are a nuisance, they are simply there and they are unwelcome but ignored, assuming average travel and political conditions in said country. Yes, these countries can be dangerous for men, but they are more dangerous for women, on average, statistically and otherwise.
Because of the virtue of your thought, that men are superior to women, I would be going to a country that would see me as property, something to be owned, an opportunity for a fuck. I have a successful job in a field dominated by men, everything I own was purchased by my money, the inventions I use, I bought and they were not invented by the male gender, they were invented by a male or group of people, don't tell me not to take credit for the achievement and oppression of females and then turn around and give the entire male gender credit for the achievements of a few males. That's bullshit. I work as hard as the men in my company, I am delaying child-bearing so that I may earn my OWN living, and if you want to talk statistics here, most men in EVERY country are my intellectual inferior, so how am I inferior to the male gender because I am a female?
If you're going to sit here and bitch about how all women are nothing but trashy, disrespectful whores, go right ahead and be my guest. If you're going to sit here and speak of us as if we sit on our asses all day long and contribute nothing to society, go right ahead! And please, do continue speaking of men as if they are weak-willed pussies that are victims of the horrible female agenda, roll tide, buddy! But don't sit here and tell me that you are not sexist in the least bit and don't sit here and tell me that the female gender can not take credit for the oppression and evils committed to us by the male gender and give *your* "superior" gender credit for all of the achievements of males! Don't piss in my face and tell me it is raining outside, pal. I know how you feel about women and so do you. The least I would think I could expect is a little honesty but if you're going to piss in my face about it then there is nothing left for you to talk about. We both know the score, here.
I never said that was why you were sexist, I said that you were sexist for saying a foreign male is a nuisence and a foreign woman is an oppurtunity. I might of got that part wrong, in which was explained to me by someone else.
When I speak on my subjects I don't mean every single woman, and I've never called women whores.
Yes, I misunderstood that part, so I apologize.
I said as a group males are better, I never said every individual male is better than every individual woman.
I never said all males should get credit for it, I am saying that men are more likely to create more complex things in technology, etc.
I have to dissagree with you there, you are saying you are one of the smartest in the world, or implying that most men aren't as smart as women. Most men in every country is not your intellectual inferior.
I have never said all women are, you took the emotional response and assumed I said all women are like that. I have never said women don't contribute to society, I have said that men progress society more with their inventions, etc.
What? Are you serious? So men that are victims of women are weak-willed pussies? Go fuck yourself. WHo do you think you are insulting all those men that are getting victimized by women because if they defended themselves they would have a strong chance of being charged? It's people like you that make me have these views.
No, we both don't. Females are still, even to thi day, the majority of my friends. If I hated women, why would I keep female friends?
You speak of men as if they are all victims of some horrible female agenda, not I.Telling me to go fuck myself and then accusing ME if giving the emotional response? No. I will respond however I seem fit, to anyone who finds it in any way logical to use the argument "Males are superior to feImales but not all males are superior to females" make up your God damn mind already. Don't generalize and then pick apart minorities and call it a valid form of argument.
And dear God do something about your interpretation of the English language. I did not say that I am smarter than all males. While I'm fucking myself, why don't you reread the statement. Statistically speaking, I am of higher intelligence by most males in every country, hell, more so than most people in every country. I states males in general to poke at the irony that they see me as inferior in such countries. If I thought you'd get so pissy and blame me for your anger at society id have clarified.
When did I say that? I don't blame feminism for how men suffer, I blame society for allowing it to continue.
I have not said all men suffer from feminism, I am saying that the men that have and could have very little defense against it, especially when society will defend their arrogance.
"Go fuck yourself" was me implying that I strongly dissagree with you due to reason and logic, not emotion and sadness. Go fuck yourself are words, not emotions. Respond however you like, you just give me more reason to have the opinions I do. How you said how men that are victims of women are weak-willed pussies? However, if I was to say that about women being victims of men, you'd sit there and shout out "sexism, inequality, wah!". Yet you and many others think "I" have to change? Please.
Where did I say "Males are superior to feImales but not all males are superior to females"? I said "as a group males are better than females", and they are. Every society and civilization was man made. Don't play pick and mix with my points, it just means it needs explained again to explain to you what you already knew before deciding to try alter what I said.
What? You're saying that you are smarter than most people in every country, but saying you didn't say that? What are you on about? Make sense.
So you're saying that a racist that "hates" blacks would like black people? That's what you're saying? Because by your logic here, you said I hate women, how or why would I like a large groups of females, yet hate females? Why would I choose to befriend women, and actually like them, if I hated women? How could I hate and like them at the same time? Your logic there is just wrong there.
That would be like saying "You're a nazi, you hate jews, but you like jews".
Have you seen a fully blown racist be friends with a black person?
Have you seen an extremely homophobic person friends with a homosexual?
Ofcourse you haven't, it would make no sense. Why would someone befriend someone that they hate due to their opinions? Like you said "that's the best you can give me?"
If I don't like something, I don't want it. If I hated women, I wouldn't want them as friends. That's what I was explaining.
Jesus H. Christ buddy, you have one hell of a way to put words in my mouth.
"What? You're saying that you are smarter than most people in every country, but saying you didn't say that? What are you on about? Make sense."
Did you even recognize the word "statistically"? According to statistical, observable data, I am more intelligent than most people. It's called the bell curve and I am nearer towards the tip than most of your precious "male gender".
Yeah, society was created by males. Females didn't have shit to do with it. Yeah, males are the superior gender, depending on how you define superiority.
If superiority is constantly having to progress out of one's own destruction of the world, if superiority is killing, raping and torturing millions of men, women and children for the sake of your precious, precious progress, if superiority is depriving minorities and women of their rights, if superiority is working children at all hours to create your precious technology, all of which amounts to little but convenience needed only because of this male driven world, destruction of natural habitats, toxic waste dumped in your oceans and smog filling the air, causing disease and sickness for the sake of your precious progress, the same one that worked millions for 40+ years and stripped their retirements and then telling them that their social security is an entitlement benefit that they don't deserve, the same one that believes "The Male Gender is Superior" and forces their cocks into innocent women and children because they are nothing but objects, property, inferior.
If superiority amounts to the insatiable need to destroy, conquer and own every tree, rock, squirrel and square foot under neath your own feet then males truly are superior. "The Male Gender" as you say, did not build society. The conqueror did. The same one that could not draw the distinction between hunting animals for food and hunting their own brothers for wealth. Don't credit the entire male gender with this character flaw, that is destroying the society that it thought it was helping. That is unfair to the millions of men that your precious "Male Gender" slayed in an effort to conquer, while those men were content to hunt, live and be free.
If you're talking about the society where child obesity runs rampant, the rich ride their private jet planes while the poor starve, where computers have become Gods and convenience is the only word that matters, where selfishness runs free, where no matter how hard a woman works she will never be paid as much as her male counterparts and society of the old world where "Progress" means little to the women that are raped and sold like mill-bred puppies every day, then thanks, "male gender". Thanks for your precious progress that makes life more convenient as society destroys itself in it's own greed.
Yeah, the male gender is superior, if that is the society and progress that you are talking about. Because that's "The Male Gender", dominate, be superior, and nothing else matters. You speak of the damage done to society because women, who were only historically recently given their rights now find it fit to complain, yet you say that we need to all "work together" while spouting that the female gender is inferior?
"I have always said, as a gender males are superior"
Yeah, you've always said that. While you are unlikely to respect me in this debate because you perceive that I am attacking males and ignore my explanation, most women will be unlikely to work with your debates so long as you continue the archaic mentality that the female gender is inferior to the male gender, why? Because you were able to fuck up the world the hardest? Because you were able to invent conveniences? Because you are the superior killers? Because you are physically stronger than us and have the right to kill female children so that you may outpopulate and outnumber women in countries such as China and the Phillipines making your domination over what was historically a gentle gender, bent on nothing more than nurturing young, caring for men, and proven to be ready and willing to pull their own weight when their lives are threatened?
Yeah, you're superior. And look at all of the good your "superiority" has gotten us. Look around you. Look at society, this is the society that the male gender created. If you're going to give credit to the male gender for it's creation of society, give credit to the male gender for society's problems, in other words, you men created this problem, like every other problem (climate change, high crime rates, the military/prison industrial complex) and now you men need to solve it, preferably without us.
But that's not how it's going to work, because as usual, us ladies will be willing to help our men no matter how badly we are beaten down. That's just the amount of loyalty we have to our society. That's the spirit of cooperation. That's what makes a woman a woman.
"males are the superior gender" mentality. Good going.
If you wish to keep this debate up, then at least do me the courtesy that you do every other competitor and give me something more than half-assed insults like "go fuck yourself" and "you're emotional" or "your sexist" or bullshit anecdotal evidence compiled with false and poorly researched sociological assumptions as well as personal blame for your "view on society" and angry dribble. At least do me the common courtesy of giving me a halfway decent, logically put together debate that I can work with. You love putting your all into these debates, but all I have seen here is blatant lack of regard for the argument at hand, which is this:
In no way, do men have it "just as hard" in said countries, than women. Men may have it hard, but not "just as hard". There is no way, theoretically, statistically or realistically, that a man would have it "just as hard" in a country that feels the way you do (that the male gender is superior) and treats women as property by virtue of their gender. The male risk factors are there, but due to this violation of rights that don't exist in this country, the risk factors for women are automatically doubled, because now, not only are we foreigners, but we are property the second we step across that border. Unclaimed. Property. No matter which situation you speak of, unless the man has his face and a price for it plastered all over every wall, he only need assume the usual amount of caution anyone would have to assume in your average ghetto. Whilst I would be unclaimed property and an opportunity should I travel alone. All thanks to your
"Statistically" how are you smarter than most men in most countries?
Funny, how you are trying to imply that men's negatives are only what progressed humanity, yet you have no problem using such things that may have required such things? I don't see any of those things happening legally in our society nowadays, do you? I have never dissagreed that males are the leading cause of the negatives of the world, but I also believe they are the ones that have made the positives in the world.
You've complained about all those things, yet you are happy to use such things; progress of the human species.
Oh, so nearly every building you see today was not built by men? Jeez, a lot of concuerers in the construction industry nowadays, eh? Killing their brothers and all. Typical builders, right?
You are linking the negatives with the positives of what men have done. Yes, men have donw many evil things, just like they have done good things. Tell me, do you benefit more than you don't benefit from male contributions? Exactly.
The rich are rich because they earn it, the poor are poor because they never strived as much, unless they are countries in which pverty and famine are natural, in which I agree, we should help them more.
Is your idea here that since they are poor, the rich should be ppor, and that the ones that worked to get rich shouldn't be paid the amount they work for because the ones that aren't working as hard aren't getting the same amount of payment? The pay gap is a myth. There is just as much evidence that suggests that the majority of times women get paid less, is because males work longer, work harder conditions, and/or work in areas of more risk. If you think women deserve to be paid equal when they aren't doing as much as listed as the men, then that's your problem.
Where does this happen to women? Where the hell do you get this impression that this happens "legally", in which is connected with our society?
If our progress has caused so much harm and disaster, then why be a part of it? You like to sit there and say how evil men's progress is, yet like to sit and reap the benefits of such evil?
Incase you haven't noticed, the world is divided, we are focused on our own little areas of the world, and as much as I dislike it, it's how it is. Technology is humanity's greatest achievement, it makes us do what we originally thought impossible. Yes, casualties happen, but that is life, and nobody is forced to work to death unless they signed up for it in out legal system.
Yes, the male gender's superiority that you benefit from. If males haden't done what they done to progress humanity, we would most likely still be in an un-civilized world, and murder, rape, theft, brutality would all be increased incredibly, and the women would want this to happen, because just like most female animals in the animal kingdom, they want partners that show strength and dominance. Just like how women, as you imply, hated our ways of progression and dominance, your gender shunned males that didn't want to be part of it. During the wars, if a male wouldn't sign up for wars, females, it could be any female, would give them a white feather to symbolize being a coward. So don't act like your gender wasn't for this progression, because the majority of women were, not to mention you are aswell, otherwise you wouldn't like using so much of the inventions made by men today.
Honestly? I don't hate women, most of my friends are women, all of your great debates and that's the best you can give me? By the way, I'm not racist, I have hispanic and black friends! I'm also not a homophobe, I have gay friends, but I'm against gay marriage because straight people have contributed more to society! Took that one too far but I couldn't resist. I expected better than go fuck yourself you sexist reason why I am way I am I don't hate women I have chick friends. I am disappoint.
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Pity. Just like most people, you think that I see every woman beneith every man, regardless of me saying otherwise. I have always said, as a gender males are superior, not that every single man is better than every single woman.
You are implying me a sexist when you are saying a foreign female is an oppurtunity and a foreign man is a nuisance? Erm, excuse me? You are implying I'm sexist? I could sit there and say the same about women, since they "need" inventions made by men to do even half the work they do today, but that would be sexist, right?
A man is an oppurtunity, a woman is a nusiance...Oh, it's only sexist when men get seen in the better light?
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Are we reading the same comment here? Nothing about what Neuro said implied that you're "sexist" or that she thinks that you "see every woman beneath every man". She (pretty calmly) explained that there are many more parts of the world in which women are seen as inferior to men, and as such, it tends to be dangerous for women more often than for men. Nobody is saying that only women get persecuted.
Also, you entirely misunderstood her nuisance/opportunity comment. She was saying that in other parts of the world, a female tourist is seen by criminals as an opportunity to sexually harass, whereas men are often seen as impediments to that. She was not saying that men are inherently nuisances or that women are full of opportunities. I realize English isn't your first language, but try not to jump to conclusions.
Furthermore, your original comment is off topic. OP is asking as a woman, which countries may be harshest on women. You cannot seriously argue that South Africa is just as dangerous for men as it is for women. It has one of the highest male-on-female rape statistics in the world. So no, this isn't another story you can turn into a gender flame war.
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I think ItDuz can turn anything into a gender flame war.
"How do you feel about peanut butter"
ItDuz: Men are not given enough peanut butter in society. Peanut butter is an invention made by men which others tend to overlook as they let their emotions dictate their logic. When I wrote a poll about peanut butter, most women disagreed that chunky peanut butter was better, therefore proving my theory that women are too afraid to admit their wrongs, when logically chunky peanut butter is better.
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I lol'd.
LOL, that's great, man. Loved it xD
I actually found that pretty funny myself. Thumbs up to you.
"I would imagine that parts of the world that see women as property and men as superior to them (much like you do)"
If you don't see someone as thinking the other gender is property or superior to the other, then I am amazed.
I never denied that it is worse for women in some areas, I was simply stating that it is bad for males in those areas aswell, not worse.
If that is what she meant, then I was wrong, and I apologize to you NeuroNeptunian for not understanding that.
English is my first language, both conclusions were not clear. She didn't mention what she meant, she didn't mention what the woman is an oppurtunity for, so wouldn't I be jumping to conclusions anyway if I was to jump to what you said she meant without her stating that it is what she meant?
I "was" trying to say that the world was dangerous for everybody, implying that we should look out for eachother, but hey, fuck you ItDuz, fuck you for thinking we should all help eachother out, this was a woman matter, when it happens to women, it only happens to women, only when men are victims of something to we change the lable "male" to "humans".
So no, this wasn't me trying to make this a gender flame war.
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As for your first point - I missed that, my mistake. And I thought you told me months ago that English wasn't your first language. I guess not.
But as for the rest:
"I never denied that it is worse for women in some areas, I was simply stating that it is bad for males in those areas aswell, not worse."
And I'm saying that's completely irrelevant. OP is asking because she is a woman who is presumably weighing these choices for herself. That's why it's absolutely unnecessary to bring this debate in here when OP is basically just asking for travel advice. For herself, who is a woman. I can't see how you don't understand this. So yes, this is you trying to make this a gender flame war. Just like every other time the word "female" or "male" is mentioned anywhere.
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No problem, honest mistake. I will be honest and thought you were insulting me on the English not being my first language part, so if I said anything offensive on that matter, I apologize.
I see what you mean, but there is a comment from Parrish that doesn't give any travel advice, yet has the most thumbs up.
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I think Parrish's comment is thumbed because it's sarcastic and funny. You're right that it's pretty irrelevant though.
I fail to see how I am a lesser being for "needing" inventions by men? How am I a sexist by "needing" what men have created? Every time you post, you speak of women as if we are all from the same breed of trash- overly emotional and disrespectful whores whose purpose and meaningfulness in society is less than that of a disposable napkin.
A female in a foreign country is an opportunity, because that's what all females in said countries are, opportunities. They are property, they are an opportunity to get laid or being a punching bag for assholes, and foreign females are that same opportunity. Males traveling abroad are a nuisance, they are simply there and they are unwelcome but ignored, assuming average travel and political conditions in said country. Yes, these countries can be dangerous for men, but they are more dangerous for women, on average, statistically and otherwise.
Because of the virtue of your thought, that men are superior to women, I would be going to a country that would see me as property, something to be owned, an opportunity for a fuck. I have a successful job in a field dominated by men, everything I own was purchased by my money, the inventions I use, I bought and they were not invented by the male gender, they were invented by a male or group of people, don't tell me not to take credit for the achievement and oppression of females and then turn around and give the entire male gender credit for the achievements of a few males. That's bullshit. I work as hard as the men in my company, I am delaying child-bearing so that I may earn my OWN living, and if you want to talk statistics here, most men in EVERY country are my intellectual inferior, so how am I inferior to the male gender because I am a female?
If you're going to sit here and bitch about how all women are nothing but trashy, disrespectful whores, go right ahead and be my guest. If you're going to sit here and speak of us as if we sit on our asses all day long and contribute nothing to society, go right ahead! And please, do continue speaking of men as if they are weak-willed pussies that are victims of the horrible female agenda, roll tide, buddy! But don't sit here and tell me that you are not sexist in the least bit and don't sit here and tell me that the female gender can not take credit for the oppression and evils committed to us by the male gender and give *your* "superior" gender credit for all of the achievements of males! Don't piss in my face and tell me it is raining outside, pal. I know how you feel about women and so do you. The least I would think I could expect is a little honesty but if you're going to piss in my face about it then there is nothing left for you to talk about. We both know the score, here.
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I never said that was why you were sexist, I said that you were sexist for saying a foreign male is a nuisence and a foreign woman is an oppurtunity. I might of got that part wrong, in which was explained to me by someone else.
When I speak on my subjects I don't mean every single woman, and I've never called women whores.
Yes, I misunderstood that part, so I apologize.
I said as a group males are better, I never said every individual male is better than every individual woman.
I never said all males should get credit for it, I am saying that men are more likely to create more complex things in technology, etc.
I have to dissagree with you there, you are saying you are one of the smartest in the world, or implying that most men aren't as smart as women. Most men in every country is not your intellectual inferior.
I have never said all women are, you took the emotional response and assumed I said all women are like that. I have never said women don't contribute to society, I have said that men progress society more with their inventions, etc.
What? Are you serious? So men that are victims of women are weak-willed pussies? Go fuck yourself. WHo do you think you are insulting all those men that are getting victimized by women because if they defended themselves they would have a strong chance of being charged? It's people like you that make me have these views.
No, we both don't. Females are still, even to thi day, the majority of my friends. If I hated women, why would I keep female friends?
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You speak of men as if they are all victims of some horrible female agenda, not I.Telling me to go fuck myself and then accusing ME if giving the emotional response? No. I will respond however I seem fit, to anyone who finds it in any way logical to use the argument "Males are superior to feImales but not all males are superior to females" make up your God damn mind already. Don't generalize and then pick apart minorities and call it a valid form of argument.
And dear God do something about your interpretation of the English language. I did not say that I am smarter than all males. While I'm fucking myself, why don't you reread the statement. Statistically speaking, I am of higher intelligence by most males in every country, hell, more so than most people in every country. I states males in general to poke at the irony that they see me as inferior in such countries. If I thought you'd get so pissy and blame me for your anger at society id have clarified.
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When did I say that? I don't blame feminism for how men suffer, I blame society for allowing it to continue.
I have not said all men suffer from feminism, I am saying that the men that have and could have very little defense against it, especially when society will defend their arrogance.
"Go fuck yourself" was me implying that I strongly dissagree with you due to reason and logic, not emotion and sadness. Go fuck yourself are words, not emotions. Respond however you like, you just give me more reason to have the opinions I do. How you said how men that are victims of women are weak-willed pussies? However, if I was to say that about women being victims of men, you'd sit there and shout out "sexism, inequality, wah!". Yet you and many others think "I" have to change? Please.
Where did I say "Males are superior to feImales but not all males are superior to females"? I said "as a group males are better than females", and they are. Every society and civilization was man made. Don't play pick and mix with my points, it just means it needs explained again to explain to you what you already knew before deciding to try alter what I said.
What? You're saying that you are smarter than most people in every country, but saying you didn't say that? What are you on about? Make sense.
So you're saying that a racist that "hates" blacks would like black people? That's what you're saying? Because by your logic here, you said I hate women, how or why would I like a large groups of females, yet hate females? Why would I choose to befriend women, and actually like them, if I hated women? How could I hate and like them at the same time? Your logic there is just wrong there.
That would be like saying "You're a nazi, you hate jews, but you like jews".
Have you seen a fully blown racist be friends with a black person?
Have you seen an extremely homophobic person friends with a homosexual?
Ofcourse you haven't, it would make no sense. Why would someone befriend someone that they hate due to their opinions? Like you said "that's the best you can give me?"
If I don't like something, I don't want it. If I hated women, I wouldn't want them as friends. That's what I was explaining.
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Jesus H. Christ buddy, you have one hell of a way to put words in my mouth.
"What? You're saying that you are smarter than most people in every country, but saying you didn't say that? What are you on about? Make sense."
Did you even recognize the word "statistically"? According to statistical, observable data, I am more intelligent than most people. It's called the bell curve and I am nearer towards the tip than most of your precious "male gender".
Yeah, society was created by males. Females didn't have shit to do with it. Yeah, males are the superior gender, depending on how you define superiority.
If superiority is constantly having to progress out of one's own destruction of the world, if superiority is killing, raping and torturing millions of men, women and children for the sake of your precious, precious progress, if superiority is depriving minorities and women of their rights, if superiority is working children at all hours to create your precious technology, all of which amounts to little but convenience needed only because of this male driven world, destruction of natural habitats, toxic waste dumped in your oceans and smog filling the air, causing disease and sickness for the sake of your precious progress, the same one that worked millions for 40+ years and stripped their retirements and then telling them that their social security is an entitlement benefit that they don't deserve, the same one that believes "The Male Gender is Superior" and forces their cocks into innocent women and children because they are nothing but objects, property, inferior.
If superiority amounts to the insatiable need to destroy, conquer and own every tree, rock, squirrel and square foot under neath your own feet then males truly are superior. "The Male Gender" as you say, did not build society. The conqueror did. The same one that could not draw the distinction between hunting animals for food and hunting their own brothers for wealth. Don't credit the entire male gender with this character flaw, that is destroying the society that it thought it was helping. That is unfair to the millions of men that your precious "Male Gender" slayed in an effort to conquer, while those men were content to hunt, live and be free.
If you're talking about the society where child obesity runs rampant, the rich ride their private jet planes while the poor starve, where computers have become Gods and convenience is the only word that matters, where selfishness runs free, where no matter how hard a woman works she will never be paid as much as her male counterparts and society of the old world where "Progress" means little to the women that are raped and sold like mill-bred puppies every day, then thanks, "male gender". Thanks for your precious progress that makes life more convenient as society destroys itself in it's own greed.
Yeah, the male gender is superior, if that is the society and progress that you are talking about. Because that's "The Male Gender", dominate, be superior, and nothing else matters. You speak of the damage done to society because women, who were only historically recently given their rights now find it fit to complain, yet you say that we need to all "work together" while spouting that the female gender is inferior?
"I have always said, as a gender males are superior"
Yeah, you've always said that. While you are unlikely to respect me in this debate because you perceive that I am attacking males and ignore my explanation, most women will be unlikely to work with your debates so long as you continue the archaic mentality that the female gender is inferior to the male gender, why? Because you were able to fuck up the world the hardest? Because you were able to invent conveniences? Because you are the superior killers? Because you are physically stronger than us and have the right to kill female children so that you may outpopulate and outnumber women in countries such as China and the Phillipines making your domination over what was historically a gentle gender, bent on nothing more than nurturing young, caring for men, and proven to be ready and willing to pull their own weight when their lives are threatened?
Yeah, you're superior. And look at all of the good your "superiority" has gotten us. Look around you. Look at society, this is the society that the male gender created. If you're going to give credit to the male gender for it's creation of society, give credit to the male gender for society's problems, in other words, you men created this problem, like every other problem (climate change, high crime rates, the military/prison industrial complex) and now you men need to solve it, preferably without us.
But that's not how it's going to work, because as usual, us ladies will be willing to help our men no matter how badly we are beaten down. That's just the amount of loyalty we have to our society. That's the spirit of cooperation. That's what makes a woman a woman.
"males are the superior gender" mentality. Good going.
If you wish to keep this debate up, then at least do me the courtesy that you do every other competitor and give me something more than half-assed insults like "go fuck yourself" and "you're emotional" or "your sexist" or bullshit anecdotal evidence compiled with false and poorly researched sociological assumptions as well as personal blame for your "view on society" and angry dribble. At least do me the common courtesy of giving me a halfway decent, logically put together debate that I can work with. You love putting your all into these debates, but all I have seen here is blatant lack of regard for the argument at hand, which is this:
In no way, do men have it "just as hard" in said countries, than women. Men may have it hard, but not "just as hard". There is no way, theoretically, statistically or realistically, that a man would have it "just as hard" in a country that feels the way you do (that the male gender is superior) and treats women as property by virtue of their gender. The male risk factors are there, but due to this violation of rights that don't exist in this country, the risk factors for women are automatically doubled, because now, not only are we foreigners, but we are property the second we step across that border. Unclaimed. Property. No matter which situation you speak of, unless the man has his face and a price for it plastered all over every wall, he only need assume the usual amount of caution anyone would have to assume in your average ghetto. Whilst I would be unclaimed property and an opportunity should I travel alone. All thanks to your
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"Statistically" how are you smarter than most men in most countries?
Funny, how you are trying to imply that men's negatives are only what progressed humanity, yet you have no problem using such things that may have required such things? I don't see any of those things happening legally in our society nowadays, do you? I have never dissagreed that males are the leading cause of the negatives of the world, but I also believe they are the ones that have made the positives in the world.
You've complained about all those things, yet you are happy to use such things; progress of the human species.
Oh, so nearly every building you see today was not built by men? Jeez, a lot of concuerers in the construction industry nowadays, eh? Killing their brothers and all. Typical builders, right?
You are linking the negatives with the positives of what men have done. Yes, men have donw many evil things, just like they have done good things. Tell me, do you benefit more than you don't benefit from male contributions? Exactly.
The rich are rich because they earn it, the poor are poor because they never strived as much, unless they are countries in which pverty and famine are natural, in which I agree, we should help them more.
Is your idea here that since they are poor, the rich should be ppor, and that the ones that worked to get rich shouldn't be paid the amount they work for because the ones that aren't working as hard aren't getting the same amount of payment? The pay gap is a myth. There is just as much evidence that suggests that the majority of times women get paid less, is because males work longer, work harder conditions, and/or work in areas of more risk. If you think women deserve to be paid equal when they aren't doing as much as listed as the men, then that's your problem.
Where does this happen to women? Where the hell do you get this impression that this happens "legally", in which is connected with our society?
If our progress has caused so much harm and disaster, then why be a part of it? You like to sit there and say how evil men's progress is, yet like to sit and reap the benefits of such evil?
Incase you haven't noticed, the world is divided, we are focused on our own little areas of the world, and as much as I dislike it, it's how it is. Technology is humanity's greatest achievement, it makes us do what we originally thought impossible. Yes, casualties happen, but that is life, and nobody is forced to work to death unless they signed up for it in out legal system.
Yes, the male gender's superiority that you benefit from. If males haden't done what they done to progress humanity, we would most likely still be in an un-civilized world, and murder, rape, theft, brutality would all be increased incredibly, and the women would want this to happen, because just like most female animals in the animal kingdom, they want partners that show strength and dominance. Just like how women, as you imply, hated our ways of progression and dominance, your gender shunned males that didn't want to be part of it. During the wars, if a male wouldn't sign up for wars, females, it could be any female, would give them a white feather to symbolize being a coward. So don't act like your gender wasn't for this progression, because the majority of women were, not to mention you are aswell, otherwise you wouldn't like using so much of the inventions made by men today.
Honestly? I don't hate women, most of my friends are women, all of your great debates and that's the best you can give me? By the way, I'm not racist, I have hispanic and black friends! I'm also not a homophobe, I have gay friends, but I'm against gay marriage because straight people have contributed more to society! Took that one too far but I couldn't resist. I expected better than go fuck yourself you sexist reason why I am way I am I don't hate women I have chick friends. I am disappoint.
Apologies in advance for spelling error, this phone is ridiculous for touch screen controls.