Which country listed is the safest for female travelers?

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  • Anywhere that is dangerous for women are dangerous to men. If a place is dangerous, it isn't just a woman danger zone.
    The whole world is a dangerous place, you can be victimized anywhere, anytime, any gender.

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    • I would imagine that parts of the world that see women as property and men as superior to them (much like you do) would be much more dangerous, as a female could easily be put to death for refusing sex with another man, whilst a man would not likely have that trouble as no native man would admit to anyone outside of his circle of influence that he is gay, let alone ask that man for sexual favors.

      When we're talking about a country in which women can be persecuted just for speaking their opinion loudly in public? Hell yeah it's more dangerous for women. A foreign man is just a nuisance. A foreign female is an opportunity. I wouldn't dare travel alone, let alone travel alone to a country in which I could be sent to prison indefinitely because another man saw my leg, a problem that a male traveler would more than likely not have for most of these countries.

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      • Pity. Just like most people, you think that I see every woman beneith every man, regardless of me saying otherwise. I have always said, as a gender males are superior, not that every single man is better than every single woman.

        You are implying me a sexist when you are saying a foreign female is an oppurtunity and a foreign man is a nuisance? Erm, excuse me? You are implying I'm sexist? I could sit there and say the same about women, since they "need" inventions made by men to do even half the work they do today, but that would be sexist, right?
        A man is an oppurtunity, a woman is a nusiance...Oh, it's only sexist when men get seen in the better light?

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        • Are we reading the same comment here? Nothing about what Neuro said implied that you're "sexist" or that she thinks that you "see every woman beneath every man". She (pretty calmly) explained that there are many more parts of the world in which women are seen as inferior to men, and as such, it tends to be dangerous for women more often than for men. Nobody is saying that only women get persecuted.

          Also, you entirely misunderstood her nuisance/opportunity comment. She was saying that in other parts of the world, a female tourist is seen by criminals as an opportunity to sexually harass, whereas men are often seen as impediments to that. She was not saying that men are inherently nuisances or that women are full of opportunities. I realize English isn't your first language, but try not to jump to conclusions.

          Furthermore, your original comment is off topic. OP is asking as a woman, which countries may be harshest on women. You cannot seriously argue that South Africa is just as dangerous for men as it is for women. It has one of the highest male-on-female rape statistics in the world. So no, this isn't another story you can turn into a gender flame war.

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          • I think ItDuz can turn anything into a gender flame war.

            "How do you feel about peanut butter"

            ItDuz: Men are not given enough peanut butter in society. Peanut butter is an invention made by men which others tend to overlook as they let their emotions dictate their logic. When I wrote a poll about peanut butter, most women disagreed that chunky peanut butter was better, therefore proving my theory that women are too afraid to admit their wrongs, when logically chunky peanut butter is better.

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          • "I would imagine that parts of the world that see women as property and men as superior to them (much like you do)"
            If you don't see someone as thinking the other gender is property or superior to the other, then I am amazed.

            I never denied that it is worse for women in some areas, I was simply stating that it is bad for males in those areas aswell, not worse.

            If that is what she meant, then I was wrong, and I apologize to you NeuroNeptunian for not understanding that.

            English is my first language, both conclusions were not clear. She didn't mention what she meant, she didn't mention what the woman is an oppurtunity for, so wouldn't I be jumping to conclusions anyway if I was to jump to what you said she meant without her stating that it is what she meant?

            I "was" trying to say that the world was dangerous for everybody, implying that we should look out for eachother, but hey, fuck you ItDuz, fuck you for thinking we should all help eachother out, this was a woman matter, when it happens to women, it only happens to women, only when men are victims of something to we change the lable "male" to "humans".

            So no, this wasn't me trying to make this a gender flame war.

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            • As for your first point - I missed that, my mistake. And I thought you told me months ago that English wasn't your first language. I guess not.

              But as for the rest:
              "I never denied that it is worse for women in some areas, I was simply stating that it is bad for males in those areas aswell, not worse."

              And I'm saying that's completely irrelevant. OP is asking because she is a woman who is presumably weighing these choices for herself. That's why it's absolutely unnecessary to bring this debate in here when OP is basically just asking for travel advice. For herself, who is a woman. I can't see how you don't understand this. So yes, this is you trying to make this a gender flame war. Just like every other time the word "female" or "male" is mentioned anywhere.

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              • No problem, honest mistake. I will be honest and thought you were insulting me on the English not being my first language part, so if I said anything offensive on that matter, I apologize.

                I see what you mean, but there is a comment from Parrish that doesn't give any travel advice, yet has the most thumbs up.

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        • I fail to see how I am a lesser being for "needing" inventions by men? How am I a sexist by "needing" what men have created? Every time you post, you speak of women as if we are all from the same breed of trash- overly emotional and disrespectful whores whose purpose and meaningfulness in society is less than that of a disposable napkin.

          A female in a foreign country is an opportunity, because that's what all females in said countries are, opportunities. They are property, they are an opportunity to get laid or being a punching bag for assholes, and foreign females are that same opportunity. Males traveling abroad are a nuisance, they are simply there and they are unwelcome but ignored, assuming average travel and political conditions in said country. Yes, these countries can be dangerous for men, but they are more dangerous for women, on average, statistically and otherwise.

          Because of the virtue of your thought, that men are superior to women, I would be going to a country that would see me as property, something to be owned, an opportunity for a fuck. I have a successful job in a field dominated by men, everything I own was purchased by my money, the inventions I use, I bought and they were not invented by the male gender, they were invented by a male or group of people, don't tell me not to take credit for the achievement and oppression of females and then turn around and give the entire male gender credit for the achievements of a few males. That's bullshit. I work as hard as the men in my company, I am delaying child-bearing so that I may earn my OWN living, and if you want to talk statistics here, most men in EVERY country are my intellectual inferior, so how am I inferior to the male gender because I am a female?

          If you're going to sit here and bitch about how all women are nothing but trashy, disrespectful whores, go right ahead and be my guest. If you're going to sit here and speak of us as if we sit on our asses all day long and contribute nothing to society, go right ahead! And please, do continue speaking of men as if they are weak-willed pussies that are victims of the horrible female agenda, roll tide, buddy! But don't sit here and tell me that you are not sexist in the least bit and don't sit here and tell me that the female gender can not take credit for the oppression and evils committed to us by the male gender and give *your* "superior" gender credit for all of the achievements of males! Don't piss in my face and tell me it is raining outside, pal. I know how you feel about women and so do you. The least I would think I could expect is a little honesty but if you're going to piss in my face about it then there is nothing left for you to talk about. We both know the score, here.

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          • I never said that was why you were sexist, I said that you were sexist for saying a foreign male is a nuisence and a foreign woman is an oppurtunity. I might of got that part wrong, in which was explained to me by someone else.
            When I speak on my subjects I don't mean every single woman, and I've never called women whores.

            Yes, I misunderstood that part, so I apologize.

            I said as a group males are better, I never said every individual male is better than every individual woman.
            I never said all males should get credit for it, I am saying that men are more likely to create more complex things in technology, etc.

            I have to dissagree with you there, you are saying you are one of the smartest in the world, or implying that most men aren't as smart as women. Most men in every country is not your intellectual inferior.

            I have never said all women are, you took the emotional response and assumed I said all women are like that. I have never said women don't contribute to society, I have said that men progress society more with their inventions, etc.

            What? Are you serious? So men that are victims of women are weak-willed pussies? Go fuck yourself. WHo do you think you are insulting all those men that are getting victimized by women because if they defended themselves they would have a strong chance of being charged? It's people like you that make me have these views.

            No, we both don't. Females are still, even to thi day, the majority of my friends. If I hated women, why would I keep female friends?

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            • You speak of men as if they are all victims of some horrible female agenda, not I.Telling me to go fuck myself and then accusing ME if giving the emotional response? No. I will respond however I seem fit, to anyone who finds it in any way logical to use the argument "Males are superior to feImales but not all males are superior to females" make up your God damn mind already. Don't generalize and then pick apart minorities and call it a valid form of argument.

              And dear God do something about your interpretation of the English language. I did not say that I am smarter than all males. While I'm fucking myself, why don't you reread the statement. Statistically speaking, I am of higher intelligence by most males in every country, hell, more so than most people in every country. I states males in general to poke at the irony that they see me as inferior in such countries. If I thought you'd get so pissy and blame me for your anger at society id have clarified.

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              • When did I say that? I don't blame feminism for how men suffer, I blame society for allowing it to continue.
                I have not said all men suffer from feminism, I am saying that the men that have and could have very little defense against it, especially when society will defend their arrogance.
                "Go fuck yourself" was me implying that I strongly dissagree with you due to reason and logic, not emotion and sadness. Go fuck yourself are words, not emotions. Respond however you like, you just give me more reason to have the opinions I do. How you said how men that are victims of women are weak-willed pussies? However, if I was to say that about women being victims of men, you'd sit there and shout out "sexism, inequality, wah!". Yet you and many others think "I" have to change? Please.
                Where did I say "Males are superior to feImales but not all males are superior to females"? I said "as a group males are better than females", and they are. Every society and civilization was man made. Don't play pick and mix with my points, it just means it needs explained again to explain to you what you already knew before deciding to try alter what I said.
                What? You're saying that you are smarter than most people in every country, but saying you didn't say that? What are you on about? Make sense.

                So you're saying that a racist that "hates" blacks would like black people? That's what you're saying? Because by your logic here, you said I hate women, how or why would I like a large groups of females, yet hate females? Why would I choose to befriend women, and actually like them, if I hated women? How could I hate and like them at the same time? Your logic there is just wrong there.
                That would be like saying "You're a nazi, you hate jews, but you like jews".

                Have you seen a fully blown racist be friends with a black person?
                Have you seen an extremely homophobic person friends with a homosexual?
                Ofcourse you haven't, it would make no sense. Why would someone befriend someone that they hate due to their opinions? Like you said "that's the best you can give me?"

                If I don't like something, I don't want it. If I hated women, I wouldn't want them as friends. That's what I was explaining.

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              • Honestly? I don't hate women, most of my friends are women, all of your great debates and that's the best you can give me? By the way, I'm not racist, I have hispanic and black friends! I'm also not a homophobe, I have gay friends, but I'm against gay marriage because straight people have contributed more to society! Took that one too far but I couldn't resist. I expected better than go fuck yourself you sexist reason why I am way I am I don't hate women I have chick friends. I am disappoint.

                Apologies in advance for spelling error, this phone is ridiculous for touch screen controls.

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    • Not really. Some places view women as inferiors, and therefore treat them in ways which would be unthinkable if done to a man.

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      • Yes, I never said that it is the same for men that women get treated, I am saying that harsh punishments would more likely be in places that treat women badly that there would be other laws that punish men.

        For example, I think it's Iran, the place in which women have to cover themselves, men aren't allowed to wear anything that shows them to be powerful such as expensive clothing and jewelery unless they do have power. A man's image of power is like a woman's image of beauty.

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        • By way of dismantling your example, female tourists MUST cover up entirely apart from the face and feet. Male tourists must NOT wear shorts, but that's about as strict as it gets. That gives them a fuckload more options than women.

          Also, it isn't about limiting the image of beauty for women and the image of power for men. It's about limiting the power of men and women, just the women get limited much more. Basically, it's oppression, and women get the short end of the stick.

          If you want to compare how male and female tourists are treated in Iran in terms of dress code using an easy and visual comparison, read this webpage about it. Men have 3 short lines of instructions, women must obey several paragraphs.

          http://www.letsgoiran.com/iran-women-dress-code

          I know I've spent far too much time dissecting your one example, and I'm sure you could have picked a better one that actually demonstrated your point well. In your example, yeah, men and women are both subject to a dress code. The difference is that the women's is oppressive, and the men's is hardly a blip.

          Whether it's actually dangerous is another matter; if you follow the rules - which are easy to follow - it isn't. I'll give you that. But it could be enough to make your trip unenjoyable if you're a woman but enjoyable if you're a man. It isn't fair at all. Exercising what ought to be basic human rights is more dangerous as a woman in Iran than it is a man, because women are more restricted. They can do less than a man and get equal punishment.

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          • Like I said, I never said women don't have it worse in those places, I was simply saying males also have their harships, and for some reason everyone has jumped to the conclusion that I am trying to say men get treated worse. Like I keep saying, anything trying to state men being the victim of something end up making people supporting females feel like I have opened an attack on them.

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            • Only in the sense that everywhere in the world is dangerous for everyone to a small extent, which is such an obvious point that it doesn't need stating. Admittedly obvious points do sometimes need to be said, but that's not the case here. I don't see why you'd bring it up unless you had the aim to start a gender war.

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              • I "was" trying to imply that the world is a bad place, and that we all have hardships, and that we should all help eachother out on these foreign inequalities and dangers for both genders. I was trying to state the obvious to show that I see a problem with inequality on both genders, and that we should see it all as we are all in danger of things. Yes, it is obvious, but I was trying to make people get the picture that I think all of it should stop. I guess I should think next time before I try to say we should see eachother as in danger and help eachother out the same amount.

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    • Especially my house. That is...if you're a man ;)

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