na·tive /ˈneɪtɪv/ adjective
1. being the place or environment in which a person was born or a thing came into being: one's native land.
2. belonging to a person by birth or to a thing by nature; inherent: native ability; native grace.
3. belonging by birth to a people regarded as indigenous to a certain place, especially a preliterate people: Native guides accompanied the expedition through the rain forest.
4. of indigenous origin, growth, or production: native pottery.
5. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of the indigenous inhabitants of a place or country: native customs; native
Have you actually read a dictionary? Or are you just desperately looking through dictionaries every time somebody doesn't agree with you?
So, if we're going into the linguistic area, then I say to you: Definitions of words in dictionaries are often different than how the words are used.
Are immigrants native if they are born in that country? Yes, officially. But would for example Japanese people think of my child as a native Japanese even if he/she was born in Japan? I don't think so. Even if according to your dictionary my child was a native, nobody would honestly think so. He/she would still be a native Finnish, not native Japanese.
Of course I could throw a dictionary at anyone who doesn't agree, but I doubt it would change anything.
No, I didn't read any dictionaries, I googled definition of native when you challenged me on it (actually more to make sure I was using the term correctly, for my own benefit, not necessarily to prove you wrong....but since you want to be nasty, then that's what you're gonna get from me) and went to the first result, which was this one, and the FIRST definition is exactly what I said in the first fucking post.
This is what I said: "if you were born here and live here, you're a native." That you found so incomprehensible, yet it's the first definition of the adjective 'native'. And you're STILL trying to say I'm wrong? OK, sure. Get over it, you're WRONG.
Which country has the most interesting history?
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"if you were born here and live here, you're a native."
That doesn't make any sense.
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na·tive /ˈneɪtɪv/ adjective
1. being the place or environment in which a person was born or a thing came into being: one's native land.
2. belonging to a person by birth or to a thing by nature; inherent: native ability; native grace.
3. belonging by birth to a people regarded as indigenous to a certain place, especially a preliterate people: Native guides accompanied the expedition through the rain forest.
4. of indigenous origin, growth, or production: native pottery.
5. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of the indigenous inhabitants of a place or country: native customs; native
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Have you actually read a dictionary? Or are you just desperately looking through dictionaries every time somebody doesn't agree with you?
So, if we're going into the linguistic area, then I say to you: Definitions of words in dictionaries are often different than how the words are used.
Are immigrants native if they are born in that country? Yes, officially. But would for example Japanese people think of my child as a native Japanese even if he/she was born in Japan? I don't think so. Even if according to your dictionary my child was a native, nobody would honestly think so. He/she would still be a native Finnish, not native Japanese.
Of course I could throw a dictionary at anyone who doesn't agree, but I doubt it would change anything.
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No, I didn't read any dictionaries, I googled definition of native when you challenged me on it (actually more to make sure I was using the term correctly, for my own benefit, not necessarily to prove you wrong....but since you want to be nasty, then that's what you're gonna get from me) and went to the first result, which was this one, and the FIRST definition is exactly what I said in the first fucking post.
This is what I said: "if you were born here and live here, you're a native." That you found so incomprehensible, yet it's the first definition of the adjective 'native'. And you're STILL trying to say I'm wrong? OK, sure. Get over it, you're WRONG.
This made me wee a bit.
Well not literally.
But it was funny.
"Even if according to your dictionary..." Was probably the best sentence that I've read in 2012 so far... Although it's only the 3rd.