Well not really, if you were born here and live here, you're a native. My grandparents wre just barely born here, both my parents were born here in the US, and so was I, so how am I not a Native? I've never lived anywhere else but the US. That might've applied 500 years ago or so, but not anymore.
na·tive /ˈneɪtɪv/ adjective
1. being the place or environment in which a person was born or a thing came into being: one's native land.
2. belonging to a person by birth or to a thing by nature; inherent: native ability; native grace.
3. belonging by birth to a people regarded as indigenous to a certain place, especially a preliterate people: Native guides accompanied the expedition through the rain forest.
4. of indigenous origin, growth, or production: native pottery.
5. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of the indigenous inhabitants of a place or country: native customs; native
Have you actually read a dictionary? Or are you just desperately looking through dictionaries every time somebody doesn't agree with you?
So, if we're going into the linguistic area, then I say to you: Definitions of words in dictionaries are often different than how the words are used.
Are immigrants native if they are born in that country? Yes, officially. But would for example Japanese people think of my child as a native Japanese even if he/she was born in Japan? I don't think so. Even if according to your dictionary my child was a native, nobody would honestly think so. He/she would still be a native Finnish, not native Japanese.
Of course I could throw a dictionary at anyone who doesn't agree, but I doubt it would change anything.
No, I didn't read any dictionaries, I googled definition of native when you challenged me on it (actually more to make sure I was using the term correctly, for my own benefit, not necessarily to prove you wrong....but since you want to be nasty, then that's what you're gonna get from me) and went to the first result, which was this one, and the FIRST definition is exactly what I said in the first fucking post.
This is what I said: "if you were born here and live here, you're a native." That you found so incomprehensible, yet it's the first definition of the adjective 'native'. And you're STILL trying to say I'm wrong? OK, sure. Get over it, you're WRONG.
"Native" is a bit of a confusing word, since according to archeologists we're immigrants to the majority of the world. It all depends on how far back you look.
The dictionary definition is broad enough to be interpreted in a number of ways, and a lot of that has to do with the common usage. In North America, when people say Native American, most mean people who did not migrate in recent history, recent being the past 1000 years (post-Columbian era), to North America, but were already settled when Europeans arrived. That's not to say you're not a native of America, but if you use the term Native American to virtually anybody in the US, it'll suggest something different to what you intended.
When scoula used the term native, he or she wasn't referring to Native Americans but citizens of America who were born and raised in the US. Like yourself. When Lynxikat said the only true native americans are the Native Americans he or she was wrong, because 'technically' doesn't exclude your definition of native. Technically you are a native of America. You're just not what most people would refer to as a native American.
So basically you're right to think of yourself as a native American, but if you want to avoid confusing people best to say "native OF America" to distinguish yourself from 'American Indians'.
I've said the exact thing myself (about there not being many left) its bogus! Its a damn shame. And I feel so bad for the ones that are still on reservations and stuff, but at least they still carry on with some of their old ways. Fuckin pilgrims!! And even worse....the puritans -_-
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lol at people choosing America. I bet none of them are native.
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Technically, the only true native Americans are the Native Americans.
Too bad there aren't too many of them left :(
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Well not really, if you were born here and live here, you're a native. My grandparents wre just barely born here, both my parents were born here in the US, and so was I, so how am I not a Native? I've never lived anywhere else but the US. That might've applied 500 years ago or so, but not anymore.
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"if you were born here and live here, you're a native."
That doesn't make any sense.
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Read a book.
na·tive /ˈneɪtɪv/ adjective
1. being the place or environment in which a person was born or a thing came into being: one's native land.
2. belonging to a person by birth or to a thing by nature; inherent: native ability; native grace.
3. belonging by birth to a people regarded as indigenous to a certain place, especially a preliterate people: Native guides accompanied the expedition through the rain forest.
4. of indigenous origin, growth, or production: native pottery.
5. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of the indigenous inhabitants of a place or country: native customs; native
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Have you actually read a dictionary? Or are you just desperately looking through dictionaries every time somebody doesn't agree with you?
So, if we're going into the linguistic area, then I say to you: Definitions of words in dictionaries are often different than how the words are used.
Are immigrants native if they are born in that country? Yes, officially. But would for example Japanese people think of my child as a native Japanese even if he/she was born in Japan? I don't think so. Even if according to your dictionary my child was a native, nobody would honestly think so. He/she would still be a native Finnish, not native Japanese.
Of course I could throw a dictionary at anyone who doesn't agree, but I doubt it would change anything.
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No, I didn't read any dictionaries, I googled definition of native when you challenged me on it (actually more to make sure I was using the term correctly, for my own benefit, not necessarily to prove you wrong....but since you want to be nasty, then that's what you're gonna get from me) and went to the first result, which was this one, and the FIRST definition is exactly what I said in the first fucking post.
This is what I said: "if you were born here and live here, you're a native." That you found so incomprehensible, yet it's the first definition of the adjective 'native'. And you're STILL trying to say I'm wrong? OK, sure. Get over it, you're WRONG.
This made me wee a bit.
Well not literally.
But it was funny.
"Even if according to your dictionary..." Was probably the best sentence that I've read in 2012 so far... Although it's only the 3rd.
"Native" is a bit of a confusing word, since according to archeologists we're immigrants to the majority of the world. It all depends on how far back you look.
The dictionary definition is broad enough to be interpreted in a number of ways, and a lot of that has to do with the common usage. In North America, when people say Native American, most mean people who did not migrate in recent history, recent being the past 1000 years (post-Columbian era), to North America, but were already settled when Europeans arrived. That's not to say you're not a native of America, but if you use the term Native American to virtually anybody in the US, it'll suggest something different to what you intended.
When scoula used the term native, he or she wasn't referring to Native Americans but citizens of America who were born and raised in the US. Like yourself. When Lynxikat said the only true native americans are the Native Americans he or she was wrong, because 'technically' doesn't exclude your definition of native. Technically you are a native of America. You're just not what most people would refer to as a native American.
So basically you're right to think of yourself as a native American, but if you want to avoid confusing people best to say "native OF America" to distinguish yourself from 'American Indians'.
I've said the exact thing myself (about there not being many left) its bogus! Its a damn shame. And I feel so bad for the ones that are still on reservations and stuff, but at least they still carry on with some of their old ways. Fuckin pilgrims!! And even worse....the puritans -_-
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....Correct me on my poor knowledge of US history, but I thought that the majority of Pilgrims WERE Puritans? (But I agree, Puritans are... ugh >.< )
How do you not put AMERICA !