Every state in the USA has laws related to Emancipated Minors. Every State also has laws related to child abuse; and I am told that they are all remarkably similar. Child abuse covers a lot more than just starvation and physical beating.
Every state in the USA recognizes that children have legal rights - that they can in some cases chose different than what their parent would like. In some cases they may have to make the request in a court. But, all states allow that. None of these laws are recent.
I don't get people like you. Are you somehow proud of your ignorance of very longstanding basic laws. Why do you suppose that the most conservative states in American have passed essentially the same laws as the most liberal ones.
It might be that in biblical times that adulthood was tied to sexual maturity... not a specific age.
It might be because its obvious to anyone with a thinking brain who looks at all the various issues involved can see that Children must have rights that are independent than their parents.
Now those rights vary based on age and mental maturity. But, Children absolutely have rights that the parents cannot infringe upon.
As stated already, children do not have the right to refuse/accept medical on thier own terms. They are legally under parents custody. Imacipation means a child has proven to court that they can legally care for themselves. In cases which child is deamed under the care of an unfit parent, that child is often put into foster care. So you are wrong, medical treatment is decided by parents in most cases not the children. Also just because you believe children deserve more rights does not mean the laws work that way. You are not the center of the universe. Wake up and get past your arrogance and realize the world isn't perfect because you think it should be.
And parents who deny a child the proper medical treatment for their situation are charged every year in every state with child abuse.
I asked 1WeirdGuy to read my reply to you above - please read my long rely to him that I just posted.
This is not just a pure black and white situation with a simple answer. Very few situations like that exist. Most situations are grey and complex. condition, with on narrow exception.
Again that is determined by parents not children. LEGALLY an adult can say no to any treatment, needed or not. A child however has no rights. The rights are with the parents. So if parents or state deam it needed its happening if the child wants it or not. So no children do not have a choice or right just becuase is your fantasy land you think they should.
In your imaginary world yes. In real life rights of what happens to children legally falls under parents. You can be delusional all you want. It doesn't change how stuff actually works. Though you might also be in a different country in which case its like arguing oranges and bananas.
Yes or no do you think a 5 year old that wants to take hormones for whatever reason should be taken away from parents if the parents refuse? You are strawmanning it into a different argument.
Again, FOR ANY REASON do you think a child should be taken and parents charged because parents refused to give them hormones? Yes or no?
Whats your opinion on children transitioning?
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Every state in the USA has laws related to Emancipated Minors. Every State also has laws related to child abuse; and I am told that they are all remarkably similar. Child abuse covers a lot more than just starvation and physical beating.
Every state in the USA recognizes that children have legal rights - that they can in some cases chose different than what their parent would like. In some cases they may have to make the request in a court. But, all states allow that. None of these laws are recent.
I don't get people like you. Are you somehow proud of your ignorance of very longstanding basic laws. Why do you suppose that the most conservative states in American have passed essentially the same laws as the most liberal ones.
It might be that in biblical times that adulthood was tied to sexual maturity... not a specific age.
It might be because its obvious to anyone with a thinking brain who looks at all the various issues involved can see that Children must have rights that are independent than their parents.
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As stated already, children do not have the right to refuse/accept medical on thier own terms. They are legally under parents custody. Imacipation means a child has proven to court that they can legally care for themselves. In cases which child is deamed under the care of an unfit parent, that child is often put into foster care. So you are wrong, medical treatment is decided by parents in most cases not the children. Also just because you believe children deserve more rights does not mean the laws work that way. You are not the center of the universe. Wake up and get past your arrogance and realize the world isn't perfect because you think it should be.
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And parents who deny a child the proper medical treatment for their situation are charged every year in every state with child abuse.
I asked 1WeirdGuy to read my reply to you above - please read my long rely to him that I just posted.
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Again that is determined by parents not children. LEGALLY an adult can say no to any treatment, needed or not. A child however has no rights. The rights are with the parents. So if parents or state deam it needed its happening if the child wants it or not. So no children do not have a choice or right just becuase is your fantasy land you think they should.
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The courts disagree with you. Children do have some rights.
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In your imaginary world yes. In real life rights of what happens to children legally falls under parents. You can be delusional all you want. It doesn't change how stuff actually works. Though you might also be in a different country in which case its like arguing oranges and bananas.
Yes or no do you think a 5 year old that wants to take hormones for whatever reason should be taken away from parents if the parents refuse? You are strawmanning it into a different argument.
Again, FOR ANY REASON do you think a child should be taken and parents charged because parents refused to give them hormones? Yes or no?