While I am mostly for kids making thier own medical decisions, I have to say no in this instance. During puberty children are very hormonal and often do not know how to process emotions correctly. So I feel like at this time they are likely going to make decisions they later regret. Im any other medical decision aside from required school shots I feel they should have the right to say no. When I was a child I had to redo bloodwork about 5 times within 2 weeks because doctor said I was skinny so they believed I was anemic. I also was very phobic of needles which everyone knew but decided to continue and tramatize me. When the test came back negitive the doctor made them redo it over and over. I would have liked the right to say no to this bullshit and I feel like doctors should care about a childs mental well being but I know they don't give a shit. Children are garbage is society afterall. We have so many teen pregnancys since teens are hormonal and schools only teach abstinence.
I agree that at a certain age and mental responsibility that young adults/children have the right to say NO.
They also have the same right to say YES.
You cannot reasonably argue for only the right to say no. If a person is old enough to make decisions on an issue. That means they can say no, yes, or ask about other options.
Young adult is anyone over 18 so they already have the right to say no to anything. Children are anything under 18. I say right to say no in any other case aside from transitioning because hormones. Before age 18 children have no right to say no to anything even if you are causing them severe mental and physical trauma.
Every state in the USA has laws related to Emancipated Minors. Every State also has laws related to child abuse; and I am told that they are all remarkably similar. Child abuse covers a lot more than just starvation and physical beating.
Every state in the USA recognizes that children have legal rights - that they can in some cases chose different than what their parent would like. In some cases they may have to make the request in a court. But, all states allow that. None of these laws are recent.
I don't get people like you. Are you somehow proud of your ignorance of very longstanding basic laws. Why do you suppose that the most conservative states in American have passed essentially the same laws as the most liberal ones.
It might be that in biblical times that adulthood was tied to sexual maturity... not a specific age.
It might be because its obvious to anyone with a thinking brain who looks at all the various issues involved can see that Children must have rights that are independent than their parents.
Now those rights vary based on age and mental maturity. But, Children absolutely have rights that the parents cannot infringe upon.
As stated already, children do not have the right to refuse/accept medical on thier own terms. They are legally under parents custody. Imacipation means a child has proven to court that they can legally care for themselves. In cases which child is deamed under the care of an unfit parent, that child is often put into foster care. So you are wrong, medical treatment is decided by parents in most cases not the children. Also just because you believe children deserve more rights does not mean the laws work that way. You are not the center of the universe. Wake up and get past your arrogance and realize the world isn't perfect because you think it should be.
Please see my answer to RoyyRogers above about the longstanding legal tradition of all states in the USA to have the same if not very similar laws regarding children rights.
Why don't you understand that decent Republicans understand that children do have rights - and believe so much that they passed laws to protect them.
Please explain to me how protecting children is "far left" for most people in America (and most of the world as well).
I just feel like giving kids hormones is far left.
I'm genuinely curious because you have said in the past you are oldschool republican. Not just your opinion on this but other things you say seems to be to the left. Im curious what conservative values you have outside of guns.
Whats your opinion on children transitioning?
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While I am mostly for kids making thier own medical decisions, I have to say no in this instance. During puberty children are very hormonal and often do not know how to process emotions correctly. So I feel like at this time they are likely going to make decisions they later regret. Im any other medical decision aside from required school shots I feel they should have the right to say no. When I was a child I had to redo bloodwork about 5 times within 2 weeks because doctor said I was skinny so they believed I was anemic. I also was very phobic of needles which everyone knew but decided to continue and tramatize me. When the test came back negitive the doctor made them redo it over and over. I would have liked the right to say no to this bullshit and I feel like doctors should care about a childs mental well being but I know they don't give a shit. Children are garbage is society afterall. We have so many teen pregnancys since teens are hormonal and schools only teach abstinence.
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I agree that at a certain age and mental responsibility that young adults/children have the right to say NO.
They also have the same right to say YES.
You cannot reasonably argue for only the right to say no. If a person is old enough to make decisions on an issue. That means they can say no, yes, or ask about other options.
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Young adult is anyone over 18 so they already have the right to say no to anything. Children are anything under 18. I say right to say no in any other case aside from transitioning because hormones. Before age 18 children have no right to say no to anything even if you are causing them severe mental and physical trauma.
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That is not true. Many adults get charged with child abuse for not respecting the child's right to say no.
Children absolutely do have rights.
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Every state in the USA has laws related to Emancipated Minors. Every State also has laws related to child abuse; and I am told that they are all remarkably similar. Child abuse covers a lot more than just starvation and physical beating.
Every state in the USA recognizes that children have legal rights - that they can in some cases chose different than what their parent would like. In some cases they may have to make the request in a court. But, all states allow that. None of these laws are recent.
I don't get people like you. Are you somehow proud of your ignorance of very longstanding basic laws. Why do you suppose that the most conservative states in American have passed essentially the same laws as the most liberal ones.
It might be that in biblical times that adulthood was tied to sexual maturity... not a specific age.
It might be because its obvious to anyone with a thinking brain who looks at all the various issues involved can see that Children must have rights that are independent than their parents.
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As stated already, children do not have the right to refuse/accept medical on thier own terms. They are legally under parents custody. Imacipation means a child has proven to court that they can legally care for themselves. In cases which child is deamed under the care of an unfit parent, that child is often put into foster care. So you are wrong, medical treatment is decided by parents in most cases not the children. Also just because you believe children deserve more rights does not mean the laws work that way. You are not the center of the universe. Wake up and get past your arrogance and realize the world isn't perfect because you think it should be.
Im curious what right wing views do you hold? I have seen you post saying you are old school republican but all your views seem to be far left.
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Please see my answer to RoyyRogers above about the longstanding legal tradition of all states in the USA to have the same if not very similar laws regarding children rights.
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I just feel like giving kids hormones is far left.
I'm genuinely curious because you have said in the past you are oldschool republican. Not just your opinion on this but other things you say seems to be to the left. Im curious what conservative values you have outside of guns.