What's your opinion on religion and god?

Baptized as a Catholic and share Christian beliefs.I love science and all theories about human evolution and creation.The universe is really amazing if you stop to think about it.

What is your opinion? Atheist and non-believers are welcome to post on this discussion.

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  • I'm a Roman Catholic, and I believe in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, but I've never really believed in a lot of the stuff mentioned in the Old Testament. I have NEVER believed in Adam, and Eve as anything more than a metaphorical story that is not much different from other ancient creation myths. I was reading about dinosaurs long before I ever owned a Bible as a very small child, and for that I'm very grateful.

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    • Well people believe the universe came from dust and a big bang. Genesis is very similar to the big bang theory in some respects🤔

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  • You are welcome to practiec the religion or spirituality you choose but don't impose it on anyone else.

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  • I grew up Catholic although not rigorously. I think my mom brought us kids to church just to please the family, especially my dad who never went himself but claimed to be a believer. I tried to believe and prayed nightly well into my twenties. However, I wised up and realized it was all nonsense and so doubted for a long time. I can happily now call myself an atheist. There are too many contradictions in the bible and the god of the old testament was a vicious, immoral, egotistical bastard. I could go on for pages but won't. I especially despise the teachings of the Mormon, Jehovah's Witness and Scientologist cults. I can't understand why and how people can be so stupid to fall for such BS. Not to mention that all televangelists are charlatans out to line their own pockets by duping their congregations.

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    • Bill.
      Im a christian.
      But I wont argue with your post.
      Its pretty accurate.

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      • Thank you. It's nice not to be trolled by someone with a different opinion. I appreciate it.

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    • What contradictions? I really want to know.

      We're a Catholic family and my dad is the same. people say it's bullshit but when they need a miracle they read the Bible and go to church.

      Just my observations.

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      • I would say read your bible.
        the contadictions are obvious.
        But youre catholic.
        You dont read the bible.

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      • Rather than compile an extensive list, if you look it up on the internet you'll find a plethora of examples. For example, there are examples of how different accounts of Jesus in the bible do not agree, like his genealogies do not match up, how many people and who showed up at his crypt when his body was discovered missing, etc. Even the gospels are inconsistent.

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  • I'm a Science man and believe in everything the Bible says. That makes me a living contradiction, of course.

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  • Ive said it on here alot. I believe there was an intelligent force that created the universe. I dont believe the bible. I think the creator(s) could be something we dont understand. It could be intuition itself.

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  • It's all fiction.

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  • The fact that an enormous amount of religions have been independently created over tens of thousands of years of human history makes it obvious that they're all made up, they were just created to satisfy our curiosity about the world. People from every religion claim to have felt beyond all doubt the presence of their god(s), so how can we take any one of their personal experiences seriously when thousands of others contradict it? The human brain is clearly just wired in such a way as to naturally invent gods and religions, as a side effect of our intelligence, just as art and stories and agriculture has been independently invented multiple times.

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  • I will give you my honest opinion and view about God I'm not trying to be edgy this is how I feel I've struggled personally for a long time in my life I once strongly believed in God but that has changed as I got older.
    I'm not saying those who follow religion are automatically bad.
    I view myself as an atheist but it could be possible that there is more to this reality so I could be a bit agnostic.
    I hate God why do I hate god look around the world look at history and it's a good argument for why the creature should be hated third world countries worship him more so then first world countries yet they still suffer etc.
    Of course you'd have those who would point to other non religious movements that have caused more chaos like communism which has killed many but religion did and still dose cause a lot of problems.
    Islam is a good example of a God who demands blood and death for breaking his laws which can range from things that aren't even hurting anyone like gay people because it doesn't lead to procreation or simply not believing etc.
    Christianity isn't innocent the fact allah and Yahweh are the same only proves this point more due to the fact that biblical law and sharia law are similar.
    Most would say that it's not his plan to set things right that man has free will but it's clear that he isn't truly for free will when you look at his word which demands submission.
    As for religion I understand the need for people to have spiritual fulfilment nothing wrong with that but I hate organized religion look at the Catholic Church and it's clear corruption and problems.
    Also I'm not a fan of zealots who wish to enforce the more extreme parts of any doctrine it poisons what good religions have to offer.

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    • The blind.
      I agree 95%
      But here's the problem.
      If you were to take 100 athiests right this minute.
      Send them to a livable planet and leave them there.
      No influence.
      If you checked back in 1,000 years.
      You'd have what you see today.
      several religions.
      Each one convinced they are right.

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      • I wouldn't disagree humans are spiritual creatures if atheists were put on another planet and isolated the first few generations would still be atheist but as time goes on their descendants will end up forming some kind of religion to understand where they come from.

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    • Have you ever read the whole bible? Organized religion isn't always a bible favorite.
      I used to base my opinions on what little I read in the bible for myself and what scriptures I was made aware of, but the bible is like any other book in that you have to read the whole thing yourself if you want your own opinion on it. So if you haven't done so and you have questions, I would suggest you do.
      I do still have questions after reading the whole thing, but I understand some things I didn't understand before that made me more compassionate towards what used to only make me angry.
      Here's an audio version if you don't have time to read.
      https://youtu.be/EiXQmeuHTOY

      I haven't read the Koran so I can't give an opinion on that or any religious belief affiliated with it.

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      • I"ve read it several times.
        There are gaps that I can't justify.
        The god of the bible is terribly racist.
        Judgemental.
        Insecure.
        And inconsistent.

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      • I read it, and I think that cultural anthropology explains religion perfectly. The best and most seductive myths attract people (in this case Resurrection). Then they scare people into ethics and values that make society work better.

        The Koran uses the myth of 72 virgins in paradise. Seductive for any incel. Remember, "if someone can make you believe absurdities, he can make you commit atrocities." --Voltaire

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    • God gave us humanity and problem's to learn from.

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      • But why though? He didn't have to do it he could have made things better and still gave us free will he didn't ask humans if they wanted to be his school project. He didn't have to make us at all the list is endless to say he did it to teach is why I'm disgusted with the concept of God or gods. He clearly doesn't care for his faithful places like Africa and Latin America are trash but they are ultra religious they love Jesus yet it's clear that they get nothing for it. Yet places like Europe and America places that aren't all to religious(evangelicals are trying to change that here in America) have all the wealthy and are more successful then the regions that would die for God if he commanded it a lot will die trying to get to these regions because they are better. The Middle East is beyond religious that it's sickening and is by far the most evilest place on earth because of the vile things they do in the name of Islam. I'm not just talking about the abrahamic Faith's Hindus are beyond trash India being a cesspool China while under communism it doesn't say that every person has to be atheist is very oppressive in its own ways Buddhism has a history of blood that few people talk about. Even pagans are just as gross because they do vile things at times in the name of their gods.

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      • Humanity ain't all that special.

        Cats on the other hand... cats are special! A lot of people kinda suck.

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        • Let's be more open minded and understanding.
          BTW I feed stray cats and each cat has a name.

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  • The only true way to recieve any type of enlightenment fron universal consciousness is to take psychedelics. For thousands of years of human history the smartest people on earth ate psilocybin mushrooms. You need to do the same thing to be smart.

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    • You know I've never actually tried mushrooms. I did try LSD twice when I was about 21 years old.

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      • I'm guessing you thought it was a good experience if you tried it again. Why'd you stop?

        I always liked shrooms best. Acid's a fun time but it's tough to get a hold of.

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        • Yeah, it's kinda embarrassing to admit, but it's been probably almost 30 years since I tried LSD.

          I just figured I could remember what it was like, because I didn't wanna take a chance on developing any potential psychosis. I did enjoy it though.

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          • I spent like 6 months straight last summer eating an 8th of shrooms a week. Never had any additional psychotic problems. Know people who it really messed their head up tho.

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      • Tried weed in highschool and didn't care for it.Tried alcohol and everything was loosey-goosey with friends (fakes) and parties till I fell on the sidewalk and no friends (fakes) gave me a hand to get up on my feet or call a taxi to get me home.

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    • Interesting concept!

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  • They are a waste of time.

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  • Me and God, we'd be mates.

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  • You get shat out. You eat. You shit. You die. And if you are lucky you to will shit out a mini you before you go

    Thats all there is, there isn't anymore

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    • Well he gave you a choice! Accept a good life or live in a evil world.

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      • For me its like a balancing act. Do a bit of fucked up shit so ill do something good to balance the scales. You know, like 5 finger tax someones stuff, then to balance it Ill help some old bag cross a road or some shit.

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        • That really just sounds like a mockery of the idea of being a good person. I believe in being a good person for the sake of being good, because it's the right thing to do. A person can choose to do the right thing regardless of whether that person is a person of faith, an agnostic, or an atheist.

          You're just talking out your ass, because you're a bored troll sort of person. It will ALWAYS be wrong to steal, and it will ALWAYS be right to help a little, old lady cross the street. There's no such thing as a balancing act unless you're trying to win a metal for being an extra special bastard, and master of douchebaggery.

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          • Oh get off your high horse! I didn't mean upset you. If I am a troll why are you giving me so much attention?
            I think you are taking this to seriously! I have fun and muck around here and you think you have the right to stop that.

            You know you can just block me rather then bullying and harassing me, right?

            I have my beliefs, you have yours. Please don't force yours down my throat!

            Geeez, have a whiskey and chill darling.

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        • Karma...?

          Give the Bible a chance.

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          • no not karma.

            I aint reading that shit, you seen how thick that book is.

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  • What do you mean when you say you "share Christian beliefs"? There are many differing "Christian" beliefs. For example, there are the Arians, who believe the teachings of Arius, there are the Lutherans, who believe the teachings or Martin Luther, and even if you are still Catholic, there are traditionalist Catholics and modern Catholics.

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    • Modern Catholic and Lutheran's church mixed with Scientology.
      But I'm a Catholic at heart, traditional or modern Beliefs.

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      • How is any of that compatible? Scientology is another religion entirely worshipping false gods, while Catholicism and Lutheranism have completely different beliefs about God and how the church should work. As someone who was raised Lutheran and converted to Catholicism, I say that they are not compatible. Also, modern and traditionalist Catholics are very different. I am a traditionalist Catholic, while the Pope is a modern Catholic. I think the Pope is full of crap.

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      • I was with you til you mentioned Scientology, it's a crazy cult.

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        • I agree. Scientology is just too bizarre. Even Charles Manson read up on it and said it was too crazy for him. That and Mormonism were created by con men and both unfortunately found people gullible enough to follow them. Joseph Smith was a known con man and L. Ron Hubbard was just a nut. He was even known to make the comment once that if someone wanted to become rich all they had to do was create a religion. I understand too that his own son changed his name so he wouldn't be associated with him.

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        • Scientology isn't as crazy as most believe to be.

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  • I was baptized as a baby and went to Sunday school growing up, but by middle school I became an atheist because the concepts in the bible didn't make sense to me. Now (I'm 23) I see myself more as agnostic because, while I still don't believe in heaven/hell/miracles and stuff I do think there's a possibility of a "creator" but I think of it more as us being in a simulation or something along those lines.
    I still think some of the stories in the bible are cool and I like to learn about other religions cause there are some good stories in all of them that teach morals and ethics, but unfortunately organized religion in general has caused a lot of hate and political problems which really sucks.
    I wish more people felt more open to sharing their thoughts and beliefs like this. Theres too many people that use religion to isolate and shame others- its super cult-like.

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    • I'm a Catholic and believe their is something above our human knowledge.

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      • isnt bowing to a cross and worshiping it in the church already idolatry?

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        • The Bible makes a point of not worshipping -false- idols. The cross is a representation of Jesus Christ, i.e. not a false idol.

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        • Most Christians cherry pick want they want to believe and follow from the bible.

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