...So your logic here is that you should just le yourself be a victim, because your insurance will handle it? What happens to the person that victimized the person? They will not always be caught, and insurance will not help everyone.
...so your logic here is that it's better to play action hero than to do things the safe way, even though your lawsuit and the psychological damage from killing someone is far more costly than getting insurance.
Sure, they will not always be caught, but sometimes they will. If you kill someone out of self defense, you might say it was an accident, but you have no guarantee that the cops will believe you. There's a good chance you'll end up in jail. Cowboy times are over.
Insurance will not help everyone, not the people who buy insurance, at least. But I think you're better off with buying insurance than buying a gun. Don't assume you're an action here who's capable of subduing the bad guys.
Who said anything about killing someone unless needed?
What if someone with a gun came in to kill you, not to rob you? Is your insurance going to cover that?
What about people that don't have insurance?
How about holding them at gun point until you phone the law?
Ah, ok, sometimes...Aslong as they don't come your way again, right?
There is a little chance if it became legalized. A chance, but not as big a chance at you're making it seem. And again, you don't need to kill them.
Technically, anyone can "subdue" criminals, if they had guns. Don't assume that criminals are master minds and super villains that are unbeatable. The only reason why you think someone can't subdue a criminal is because there isn't a method to without "protection". So yes, I will "assume" to think I can because they're only human.
You consider the risk of murderers entering your house great enough to buy a gun, but you think it's still too small for you to buy insurance?
Dude, I've been robbed before! I know that there's always a possibility of something like that happening!
Guns aren't for protection, they're for killing. If you want protection, go buy yourself a decent alarm system. that's hardly more expensive than a gun. And trust me, as soon as the alarm goes, the robbers are out of there, and you don't have to risk your life.
What's with this idea that you have to be a law enforcer? You are only human as well. Those robbers aren't unbeatable, and you are neither. Do you really want to take them on and getting yourself killed? You've watched way too many movies.
You are not a cowboy, and you most certainly do NOT want to be a murderer. Leave the criminals the police, that's what they are for.
...What? So, you think "Insurance" is a good back up plan if someone is in your house to kill you...? "Pssht, go ahead and kill me, I have insurance, they know how to bring people back from the dead!"...Good luck with that.
My God, you are hopeless. I do hope no harm comes to you, defending yourself may be tricky.
You've been robbed before, you know how it feels to be robbed, you don't know how it would feel to try rob someone that has a gun. I have robbed before, and I can tell you, if I had a gun pointed to me, I would think twice before robbing anyone.
Wrong, guns are used for many things, protection being one of them. Why do law enforcers carry guns, yet don't shoot the person if they had the chance?
The alarm system? Actually, some guns are cheaper than a reliable alarm system.
Wrong, the idea is to protect yourself without the psychological impact of killing someone (like you said) and being able to hand them in to the cops is a plus to make sure they can't do it again. Yes, I am only human...What is your point? That only super humans are law enforcers or allowed and capable to defend themselves?
You're being completely illogical. A murder comes in. He has a gun. You have...Insurance...Let's see how well that protects you. Hey. The murder is in your front room. You call the police. They take about fifteen minutes or more to get to you...Let's see how well you last.
No, I haven't seen "too many movies", you're just being completely illogical.
Ok, let's see here. A murder breaks in. They are planning on killing you. You're saying don't have protection, it will only get you killed. So by not having protection, you're going to be murdered anyway, where as with a gun you have more of a chance to survive.
Really, where is your logic coming from?
I know I'm not a cowboy. Murder? Who knows. I certainly will have no problem making the choice of killing someone that is trying to kill me, no problem.
I actually pity you right now. You're so dependant on someone else defending you that you would have no chance of surviving against someone trying to harm you.
ItDuz, there's no need to get offensive. I'm trying to have a civilized debate here. Don't act like a condescending douche.
You have robbed before?! You're criminal yourself, of course you want to legalize guns!
Yes, some guns are cheaper than alarm systems. But if you really think it's likely for people to come into your house just to murder you, then you shouldn't mind spending a little bucks on some actual protection. But since you're a robber, then I get that you don't adhere much value to human life.
When I said you were only human, I was referring to when you said that robbers were only humans. Law enforcers have an extensive knowledge of the law, had proper training and practical experience. Civilians could take target practice, but that hardly qualifies you as a law enforcer. If you want to catch criminals, go join the police force.
I've never said that insurance might protect you against murderers. I never said I didn't have any protection. I have an alarm system, and it serves me just fine. There's absolutely no reason why someone should break into my house to kill me. If someone breaks into my house, it's to steal my stuff. Period.
If you think there are so many people out there who want to kill you, then you're either paranoid, or you've got the worst PR ever.
By the way, I've survived it before when people tried to harm me. Without using violence. But as long as you delude yourself into thinking you live in an action movie where everyone is out to get you and violence is the only solution, you won't be able to understand that.
I'm done with you. By the way, you might want to delete that comment. If you ever get caught, then the cops'll be able to read your little confession here.
You're right. That was uncalled for, and I shouldn't of said such things. I apologize. I do believe those things, but the manner I put them in was just innapropriate, and so I apologize, it won't happen again. Sorry.
I have robbed before, about five years ago, along with other things. Guns are easy to get. I have had the opportunity to get them due to the people I have known. That doesn't change the fact that people could benefit from guns. Criminals can and will always be able to get their guns, and if we refuse to allow those that are lawful to have the same equipment to protect themselves, then we are allowing criminals to have more power.
If you have a gun you protect yourself from robers, murderers, rapists, kidnappers, etc. If you have an alarm, there is always a chance of it being bypassed.
That doesn't matter. We're not talking about enforcing the law, we're talking about defending yourself. If someone can shoot a gun, or even just aim it, then that is enough. If you have to be a law enforcer to protect yourself, then I find that quite sad. You are saying that we have no right to defend ourselves the best we can, which makes criminals think "hey, I can do this. Even if they call the law, I have a lengthy ammount of time to do what I need to and escape".
Even cameras are useless. The last house I broke in to was worth about a million (litrally, and no, not joking). They had cameras, etc. I was able to get in there with a friend and take away the recording of what the cameras captured and make sure the cameras couldn't be in use. I was about sixteen to seventeen then. If someone that age can do such a thing, do you think people without protection can defend themselves and their belongings to older people with more experience?
You have an alarm system. Was that before or after you got robbed?
There is no reason for anyone to want to murder you? I'm sure most of murder victims thought the exact same thing, and they were right. If you think murderers need reasons to kill people, then you need to understand that they don't.
No, I don't think there are many people that want to kill me, just like I don't think people would want to rob me, point is that both are possible. I'm sure you didn't think there was much reason for someone to rob your place before robbing it, right? Still, it happened.
By the way, I've survived many things before, most likely been through far more violence in my time than you have (possibly not, but I am 80% sure I have), and I can tell you, talking and avoiding violence is something not many can choose, nor something people will accept to avoid what crime they want to commit.
You seem to think I have this mind set as if I'm in a action movie, I don't. This is the world we live in, it is not as "actiony" as an action film, but it's still very bad. You seem to be seeing me as thinking this world is one big action film, where as you're thinking in a way that I coupld explain you think this world is just big romance, family aimed, comedy film in which all problems and violence can stop by just talking to one another.
You're done with me? So far you've not made much logical sense at all.
Also, there's no need to delete my comment, I have gotten through it being pulled up before.
Let's categorize what it is you have stated.
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1) Offensive part.
2) You assume that someone that has committed a crime doesn't know how to help innocents protect themselves. (Even though, ironicly, they would know more than most.)
3) You basically say that law enforcements are the only ones allowed to protect you, that you are not allowed to protect yourself in any way that would put your survival scale higher.
4) You assume that criminals have specific reasons to pick the person the crime is happening to.
5) You misunderstand the difference between paranoia and logical thinking that it is possible that anyone can be a victim of crime/criminals.
6) You assume because you survived a robbery that others will. (Also need to continue this part: Did the robber get charged? Were you robbed before or after your alarm system was set up?). You also add insulting statements, stating I'm delusional and think I live in an action movie, even though you said that me doing such was innapropriate.
7) You tell me you're done with me, believing you have made any actual statement that would suggest you even started.
Tell me again, why do you insinuate you're being more logical here?
What's your opinion on gun control?
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Sure, they will not always be caught, but sometimes they will. If you kill someone out of self defense, you might say it was an accident, but you have no guarantee that the cops will believe you. There's a good chance you'll end up in jail. Cowboy times are over.
Insurance will not help everyone, not the people who buy insurance, at least. But I think you're better off with buying insurance than buying a gun. Don't assume you're an action here who's capable of subduing the bad guys.
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Who said anything about killing someone unless needed?
What if someone with a gun came in to kill you, not to rob you? Is your insurance going to cover that?
What about people that don't have insurance?
How about holding them at gun point until you phone the law?
Ah, ok, sometimes...Aslong as they don't come your way again, right?
There is a little chance if it became legalized. A chance, but not as big a chance at you're making it seem. And again, you don't need to kill them.
Technically, anyone can "subdue" criminals, if they had guns. Don't assume that criminals are master minds and super villains that are unbeatable. The only reason why you think someone can't subdue a criminal is because there isn't a method to without "protection". So yes, I will "assume" to think I can because they're only human.
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You consider the risk of murderers entering your house great enough to buy a gun, but you think it's still too small for you to buy insurance?
Dude, I've been robbed before! I know that there's always a possibility of something like that happening!
Guns aren't for protection, they're for killing. If you want protection, go buy yourself a decent alarm system. that's hardly more expensive than a gun. And trust me, as soon as the alarm goes, the robbers are out of there, and you don't have to risk your life.
What's with this idea that you have to be a law enforcer? You are only human as well. Those robbers aren't unbeatable, and you are neither. Do you really want to take them on and getting yourself killed? You've watched way too many movies.
You are not a cowboy, and you most certainly do NOT want to be a murderer. Leave the criminals the police, that's what they are for.
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...What? So, you think "Insurance" is a good back up plan if someone is in your house to kill you...? "Pssht, go ahead and kill me, I have insurance, they know how to bring people back from the dead!"...Good luck with that.
My God, you are hopeless. I do hope no harm comes to you, defending yourself may be tricky.
You've been robbed before, you know how it feels to be robbed, you don't know how it would feel to try rob someone that has a gun. I have robbed before, and I can tell you, if I had a gun pointed to me, I would think twice before robbing anyone.
Wrong, guns are used for many things, protection being one of them. Why do law enforcers carry guns, yet don't shoot the person if they had the chance?
The alarm system? Actually, some guns are cheaper than a reliable alarm system.
Wrong, the idea is to protect yourself without the psychological impact of killing someone (like you said) and being able to hand them in to the cops is a plus to make sure they can't do it again. Yes, I am only human...What is your point? That only super humans are law enforcers or allowed and capable to defend themselves?
You're being completely illogical. A murder comes in. He has a gun. You have...Insurance...Let's see how well that protects you. Hey. The murder is in your front room. You call the police. They take about fifteen minutes or more to get to you...Let's see how well you last.
No, I haven't seen "too many movies", you're just being completely illogical.
Ok, let's see here. A murder breaks in. They are planning on killing you. You're saying don't have protection, it will only get you killed. So by not having protection, you're going to be murdered anyway, where as with a gun you have more of a chance to survive.
Really, where is your logic coming from?
I know I'm not a cowboy. Murder? Who knows. I certainly will have no problem making the choice of killing someone that is trying to kill me, no problem.
I actually pity you right now. You're so dependant on someone else defending you that you would have no chance of surviving against someone trying to harm you.
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ItDuz, there's no need to get offensive. I'm trying to have a civilized debate here. Don't act like a condescending douche.
You have robbed before?! You're criminal yourself, of course you want to legalize guns!
Yes, some guns are cheaper than alarm systems. But if you really think it's likely for people to come into your house just to murder you, then you shouldn't mind spending a little bucks on some actual protection. But since you're a robber, then I get that you don't adhere much value to human life.
When I said you were only human, I was referring to when you said that robbers were only humans. Law enforcers have an extensive knowledge of the law, had proper training and practical experience. Civilians could take target practice, but that hardly qualifies you as a law enforcer. If you want to catch criminals, go join the police force.
I've never said that insurance might protect you against murderers. I never said I didn't have any protection. I have an alarm system, and it serves me just fine. There's absolutely no reason why someone should break into my house to kill me. If someone breaks into my house, it's to steal my stuff. Period.
If you think there are so many people out there who want to kill you, then you're either paranoid, or you've got the worst PR ever.
By the way, I've survived it before when people tried to harm me. Without using violence. But as long as you delude yourself into thinking you live in an action movie where everyone is out to get you and violence is the only solution, you won't be able to understand that.
I'm done with you. By the way, you might want to delete that comment. If you ever get caught, then the cops'll be able to read your little confession here.
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You're right. That was uncalled for, and I shouldn't of said such things. I apologize. I do believe those things, but the manner I put them in was just innapropriate, and so I apologize, it won't happen again. Sorry.
I have robbed before, about five years ago, along with other things. Guns are easy to get. I have had the opportunity to get them due to the people I have known. That doesn't change the fact that people could benefit from guns. Criminals can and will always be able to get their guns, and if we refuse to allow those that are lawful to have the same equipment to protect themselves, then we are allowing criminals to have more power.
If you have a gun you protect yourself from robers, murderers, rapists, kidnappers, etc. If you have an alarm, there is always a chance of it being bypassed.
That doesn't matter. We're not talking about enforcing the law, we're talking about defending yourself. If someone can shoot a gun, or even just aim it, then that is enough. If you have to be a law enforcer to protect yourself, then I find that quite sad. You are saying that we have no right to defend ourselves the best we can, which makes criminals think "hey, I can do this. Even if they call the law, I have a lengthy ammount of time to do what I need to and escape".
Even cameras are useless. The last house I broke in to was worth about a million (litrally, and no, not joking). They had cameras, etc. I was able to get in there with a friend and take away the recording of what the cameras captured and make sure the cameras couldn't be in use. I was about sixteen to seventeen then. If someone that age can do such a thing, do you think people without protection can defend themselves and their belongings to older people with more experience?
You have an alarm system. Was that before or after you got robbed?
There is no reason for anyone to want to murder you? I'm sure most of murder victims thought the exact same thing, and they were right. If you think murderers need reasons to kill people, then you need to understand that they don't.
No, I don't think there are many people that want to kill me, just like I don't think people would want to rob me, point is that both are possible. I'm sure you didn't think there was much reason for someone to rob your place before robbing it, right? Still, it happened.
By the way, I've survived many things before, most likely been through far more violence in my time than you have (possibly not, but I am 80% sure I have), and I can tell you, talking and avoiding violence is something not many can choose, nor something people will accept to avoid what crime they want to commit.
You seem to think I have this mind set as if I'm in a action movie, I don't. This is the world we live in, it is not as "actiony" as an action film, but it's still very bad. You seem to be seeing me as thinking this world is one big action film, where as you're thinking in a way that I coupld explain you think this world is just big romance, family aimed, comedy film in which all problems and violence can stop by just talking to one another.
You're done with me? So far you've not made much logical sense at all.
Also, there's no need to delete my comment, I have gotten through it being pulled up before.
Let's categorize what it is you have stated.
Paragraph:
1) Offensive part.
2) You assume that someone that has committed a crime doesn't know how to help innocents protect themselves. (Even though, ironicly, they would know more than most.)
3) You basically say that law enforcements are the only ones allowed to protect you, that you are not allowed to protect yourself in any way that would put your survival scale higher.
4) You assume that criminals have specific reasons to pick the person the crime is happening to.
5) You misunderstand the difference between paranoia and logical thinking that it is possible that anyone can be a victim of crime/criminals.
6) You assume because you survived a robbery that others will. (Also need to continue this part: Did the robber get charged? Were you robbed before or after your alarm system was set up?). You also add insulting statements, stating I'm delusional and think I live in an action movie, even though you said that me doing such was innapropriate.
7) You tell me you're done with me, believing you have made any actual statement that would suggest you even started.
Tell me again, why do you insinuate you're being more logical here?