What's the difference between male and butch lesbian

I am a trans man [FTM] and have yet to have surgery or hormone therapy

I want to look like a man, but not a butch lesbian

My question is, what separates the two?

How can I look more like a man and less like a lesbian?

Thank you

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  • In the forehead especially. Men have a dominant brow bone that trans chics cant get

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    • Thank you

      Do you know how I can do that? (Makeup, etc)

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      • Im not sure. I think its easier to get rid of the brow bone than to get it. Men can just have theirs shaved down. Im sure theres some way you can tho. Probably gonna be expensive.

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        • Should I just highlight mine with makeup?

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          • Probably can but then again its makeup and I have zero idea what makeup can do for a person.

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  • You need to use the phrase "I gotta drop a deuce" frequently.
    Or "I just took a huge shit & feel 10 lbs lighter."

    Also use the phrase "Smell this." and make sure it's something rather unpleasant or foul.

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  • If you are chubbier try to lose weight. Fat will not do you any favors. I'd look up butch on Google images and see if you look anything like any of the photos. Hair. Assecories style etc.

    Most men dress very simple. Jeans and t shirt type of thing. So don't go over board on the matching. You can of course just keep in mind if you have an effeminate build it probably won't do you any favors. Baggy clothes help. Masculime short hair styles. This will take some practice. Ultimately wear whatever looks best on you that you feel confident in but these are my 2 cents. If you have a brother or father ask them for fashion advice. Chances are they'll say something like uh jeans and shirt. Wich translates to it really doesn't matter whatever is cheap and easily maintained with little effort

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  • Mostly the penis separates the two.

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  • easy: one has a penis, and the other has a vagina.

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  • you should stuff your pants a little, so we can see a bit of a bulge

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  • Short hair that isn’t a pixie cut, also binding your chest but it’s important to do a LOT of research into getting the correct binder to avoid rib damage. I agree with Kholat that eyebrows make a big difference leave them ungroomed and maybe use some eyeshadow to make them look thicker, but less is more if you can see that you’re wearing makeup it defeats the whole point of them looking ungroomed. Good luck.

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  • I think you missed the point about being a male.

    You care way to much about what you look like. Most males by age 25 have accepted who and what they are and looks are what they are. I would say any and all high maintenance males I've met are very feminine, most likely gay or bi. Those that wear makeup for any reason other than, work requirements, to disguise tattoo, or cover disfigurement mostly fall into the same category.
    I missed the part of why you prefer being a male ?

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    • Some trans people are also gay or bi, that doesn’t make them cisgender.

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      • I missed the part of where I care what gender they feel like.
        They are trans FtoM, and very concerned on how to look more male than just butch.

        My point, unless you are an actor or only want to be seen from a distance, the use of make up will somewhat defeat your purpose. If you are really concerned and wanting to appear or come across as a male.

        When and if I date a male, if they are wearing more make up than I am (I don't wear a lot) or leave smudges on me. They are not going to come across as a masculine male they are going to come across as feminine male or someone wanting to appear as a male or more butch.

        I just feel make-up is not the answer.

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        • Thank you for your thoughts, but makeup has done a lot for me when it comes to looking more like a man

          I do very unnoticeable and natural makeup to carve out my face yo look more angular, and highlight the places that are more out

          Also, makeup has no gender

          I know you said 'mostly', but makeup isn't just for women and queen people

          I know men that use makeup in a similar way that I do, to eccebtuate the features they like, and half of them are straight and cis

          There are ways to wear makeup that /isn't/ like how the trendy girls do it today

          Although I disagree, I'd like to commend you for remaining respectful to the communities you mentioned

          Ya just don't see it a lot these days

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          • Thank you,

            I try to put myself in the other person's shoes as much as possible. I'm a little older than most on IIN and I try to pass on personal experiences, and as a person who at one time got paid to argue for clients, no matter how my personal feeling may conflict, I've learned there are many reasons a person can feel or want to do things differently than I think.

            I probably do, or want to do things differently than a lot of people think I should. However, we should all have the right to believe what we want as long as it isn't hurting others, forcing others to change their beliefs, or costing others financial burden to fulfill that desire.

            You do you!

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  • Masculine features usually rely on being angular.
    Sharp jaw, sharp nose, sharp brow.

    Usually when you see really butch lesbians, often times when I think of the stereotypical “biker d*ke” I think of a more overweight, upward hairstyle, with a lot of round facial features.

    A thicker eyebrow is easy to do with makeup and will make you look a lot more masculine. “But it looks bad”, yeah, maybe, men don’t look as good as women. I’ve found a lot of the most “convincing” FTM transitions consist of getting “uglier”.

    You can still be a pretty motherfucker as FTM, like a Greta Van Fleet, Nils Kuiper, Cody Fern, or Adam Lambert, type. But you’ll notice that they share a lot of the sharp and large looks (jaw, brow, nose)

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  • You could try just being yourself. 🤷🏾‍♀️

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    • I dont know if you quite understand what I am talking about

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      • You’re trying a million different ways to be anything but yourself.

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        • How would you know that?

          And, this IS me trying to be myself

          I feel more male, it helps me feel like myself MORE

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  • See, I like having my hair long, like those 70s and 80s Rockstar, but it's a pretty gender neutral cut [similar to 70's Steven Tyler and like young Tommy Lee [pre Pamela Anderson]

    But I definitely don't mind wearing makeup, I actually love to (guy-liner, BB cream for redness, eyebrow gel for bushiness, lip liner for bigger lips [I hate how thin mine can look, and powder for the shine [not cakey looking])

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