The only one who truly knows what in the best interest of anyone is Creator of the Universe. A lot of times people think think they know what's in their best interest, but in the end don't.
You can tell a room full of people to come up with a plan for someone that would in that person's best interest, and it's possible that no two answers would be the same.
Like I said before tolerance is a two way street, and many left wing people today have forgotten what tolerance is. Tolerance is about tolerating that with which one does not agree, not about anything to do with that with which one does agree.
The possibility of it being difficult to determine whether or not something is in one's best interests in one particular case doesn't negate the fact that it's rather obvious in another.
Black slavery. Let's take a vote. _Obviously_ not in the best interests of blacks, or only God knows? Not everything is a difficult question.
Exactly; tolerance is about tolerating that which one merely disagrees with, not that which actively harms one. Either way you failed to tolerate that which you merely disagree with via your choice, which again was absolutely yours to make. And your former friend isn't even expected to "tolerate" being harmed as it doesn't meet the definition of "tolerance" as used in this context (in other words they were being harmed).
Nope, that's just a bunch of liberal bullshit, identity politics that you're spewing at me in an attempt to shame me for my politics, which I might add I have not elaborated on at all in this back, and forth. I don't appreciate the way you're going at this, because I don't, and will never believe that my politics are harmful to transgendered persons, or anyone else. I don't know of anything political I believe in which actively harms transgendered persons, or anyone for that matter.
I think that right now you're just behaving like a typical snowflake the only difference is that you are someone who has better self control as you have managed to not to attack me personally, and that your spelling, and grammar are good.
You didn't have to elaborate. I sincerely apologize if I'm wrong, but let's be real here; you voted for Trump. Your former trans friend didn't ghost you for voting for Biden. It would be absurd for me to presume it was anyone besides the guy who infamously, actively tried to take rights away from them. If you didn't vote for Trump, inform me and I'll adjust accordingly (and likely think your former friend is insane).
At any rate I haven't tried to shame you for your political views anyway; I merely said I can understand why they would be grounds to terminate a friendship when they're not compatible with your former friend's best interests. If you don't see how you they are, it's likely about to come up on the other thread.
I'm not sure why I'm a snowflake. Surely saying slavery is wrong wasn't overly bleeding heart. I know, or at least certainly thought, we were absolutely on the same page about slavery. Other than that all I did was state demonstrable facts so I don't understand what's so snowflake-like here.
I think that bringing up slavery/civil rights and women's rights was a very cheap shot on your part, because those things are not the same as the transgendered issues of today, and you know it!
I also want to take this opportunity to point out that the enslavement of African people brought to the Americas was not the only historical instance of slavery. Additionally, I want to bring to light the fact that slavery has not been eradicated worldwide. Unfortunately, slavery still exists. If you for one moment think that I'm okay with slavery then you need to have your head examined!
I went with the enslavement of Africans in the United States because it's an issue we handled here and we're now discussing a modern matter of human rights in the same country.
"--and you know it!"
No, I absolutely do not know it. It's actually perplexing to me how those who oppose trans rights don't see the parallels. Honestly, even if I didn't personally support trans people, I would probably act as if I did to prevent looking foolish in case I was quoted in a book in the distant future. We dealt with women's and African American rights, we're dealing with homosexual rights, and it's as clear as day that trans rights are just the next stop on this train's trajectory.
There's still much work to be done in the former three areas as well but everyone knows what the trend is. Things are improving and no one can stop it. Progressives always win in the end because times, well, progress. That's the arrow of time.
Honestly, being on the wrong the side of the trans rights movement is like failing an open notes test. We have history to learn from. There's absolutely no doubt that a century from now people who opposed them are going to look exactly like people who said African Americans are fine but should use a different water fountain and women are fine but should never hold office because they might start a war on their period (even though every war has been started by men). Do you really want to look like those people in the future? Because that _is_ the future. This is happening.
Well, I don't see the so called trans rights that your talking about as being the same as the importance of abolishing slavery, the importance of the civil rights of black people, and or the the rights of women.
You want to talk about the future, well build yourself a time machine, and get back to me on it. What if two hundred years in the future it is scientifically proven that all your assumptions, and beliefs about transgenderism are proven to be untrue? What if in the future the opposite of what you believe is scientifically proven to be true?
You're free to be as progressive as you want to be, and other are still free to not be.
What's everyone's thoughts on trans people?
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The only one who truly knows what in the best interest of anyone is Creator of the Universe. A lot of times people think think they know what's in their best interest, but in the end don't.
You can tell a room full of people to come up with a plan for someone that would in that person's best interest, and it's possible that no two answers would be the same.
Like I said before tolerance is a two way street, and many left wing people today have forgotten what tolerance is. Tolerance is about tolerating that with which one does not agree, not about anything to do with that with which one does agree.
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The possibility of it being difficult to determine whether or not something is in one's best interests in one particular case doesn't negate the fact that it's rather obvious in another.
Black slavery. Let's take a vote. _Obviously_ not in the best interests of blacks, or only God knows? Not everything is a difficult question.
Exactly; tolerance is about tolerating that which one merely disagrees with, not that which actively harms one. Either way you failed to tolerate that which you merely disagree with via your choice, which again was absolutely yours to make. And your former friend isn't even expected to "tolerate" being harmed as it doesn't meet the definition of "tolerance" as used in this context (in other words they were being harmed).
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Nope, that's just a bunch of liberal bullshit, identity politics that you're spewing at me in an attempt to shame me for my politics, which I might add I have not elaborated on at all in this back, and forth. I don't appreciate the way you're going at this, because I don't, and will never believe that my politics are harmful to transgendered persons, or anyone else. I don't know of anything political I believe in which actively harms transgendered persons, or anyone for that matter.
I think that right now you're just behaving like a typical snowflake the only difference is that you are someone who has better self control as you have managed to not to attack me personally, and that your spelling, and grammar are good.
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You didn't have to elaborate. I sincerely apologize if I'm wrong, but let's be real here; you voted for Trump. Your former trans friend didn't ghost you for voting for Biden. It would be absurd for me to presume it was anyone besides the guy who infamously, actively tried to take rights away from them. If you didn't vote for Trump, inform me and I'll adjust accordingly (and likely think your former friend is insane).
At any rate I haven't tried to shame you for your political views anyway; I merely said I can understand why they would be grounds to terminate a friendship when they're not compatible with your former friend's best interests. If you don't see how you they are, it's likely about to come up on the other thread.
I'm not sure why I'm a snowflake. Surely saying slavery is wrong wasn't overly bleeding heart. I know, or at least certainly thought, we were absolutely on the same page about slavery. Other than that all I did was state demonstrable facts so I don't understand what's so snowflake-like here.
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I think that bringing up slavery/civil rights and women's rights was a very cheap shot on your part, because those things are not the same as the transgendered issues of today, and you know it!
I also want to take this opportunity to point out that the enslavement of African people brought to the Americas was not the only historical instance of slavery. Additionally, I want to bring to light the fact that slavery has not been eradicated worldwide. Unfortunately, slavery still exists. If you for one moment think that I'm okay with slavery then you need to have your head examined!
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I went with the enslavement of Africans in the United States because it's an issue we handled here and we're now discussing a modern matter of human rights in the same country.
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No, I absolutely do not know it. It's actually perplexing to me how those who oppose trans rights don't see the parallels. Honestly, even if I didn't personally support trans people, I would probably act as if I did to prevent looking foolish in case I was quoted in a book in the distant future. We dealt with women's and African American rights, we're dealing with homosexual rights, and it's as clear as day that trans rights are just the next stop on this train's trajectory.
There's still much work to be done in the former three areas as well but everyone knows what the trend is. Things are improving and no one can stop it. Progressives always win in the end because times, well, progress. That's the arrow of time.
Honestly, being on the wrong the side of the trans rights movement is like failing an open notes test. We have history to learn from. There's absolutely no doubt that a century from now people who opposed them are going to look exactly like people who said African Americans are fine but should use a different water fountain and women are fine but should never hold office because they might start a war on their period (even though every war has been started by men). Do you really want to look like those people in the future? Because that _is_ the future. This is happening.
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Well, I don't see the so called trans rights that your talking about as being the same as the importance of abolishing slavery, the importance of the civil rights of black people, and or the the rights of women.
You want to talk about the future, well build yourself a time machine, and get back to me on it. What if two hundred years in the future it is scientifically proven that all your assumptions, and beliefs about transgenderism are proven to be untrue? What if in the future the opposite of what you believe is scientifically proven to be true?
You're free to be as progressive as you want to be, and other are still free to not be.