What is so wrong with bestiality when the animal is not forced?

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  • The dog aforementioned was capable of holding a grudge against another dog. Actively leading the other dog into the street, causing the other dog to bark uncontrollably to get it into trouble, etc. He would then back away from the other dog and pretend to be completely innocent. If you had actively observed him as I did you would understand where my views on animal intelligence come from.

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    • Oops forgot the human comparison. I know plenty of humans who will blindly follow others even when the person they follow is openly malicious. You know some of these people if you work in any corporation. Also there are humans who will walk out into traffic without regard for the cars. People who try to jump off of buildings (not suicide or bungee jumping. 1-2 story buildings) for fun. People who consciously poison themselves with cigarettes and alcohol even (I'm referencing the self destructive aspect that not even a goldfish has, though they will ingest poison because they don't know it is poison they would not if they knew what it was).

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    • What human couldn't do that? That does not constitute intelligence.

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