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Disclaimer: If you don't believe in God, or you can't put yourselves in my shoes, then stop reading here, and don't bother commenting.

So, I am a firm believer that God gave us marijuana as the best herbal remedy for almost everything, but you can't deny that people who abuse it don't turn out as well as if they hadn't abused it. So I was thinking, that God has given us these wonderful things such as marijuana and sex, but he built in counter measures for people who abuse it. If you use small amounts of weed medicinally or you just get high once a night to wind down, and don't just get high all day, then you can get medicinal benefits with zero negative effects on your life. But abuse it, and you can become a pot head that only cares about weed. And he gave us sex, which we can all agree is one of the best things in life, but he intended for it to be only for married couples. So a countermeasure he built into this is the possibility of STDs. So that if you don't want to wait for marriage, then you put yourself at risk for STDs, that way (barring sharing needles etc) there is no way of getting an STD if both of you save yourselves for marriage.

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disthing

11 years ago

Even if I did believe in a god, I'm quite confident that marijuana isn't "the best herbal remedy for almost everything." That's crap.

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- howaminotmyself
  
  11 years ago
  
  No kidding, ask any practicing herbalist what their favorite herb is and none of them will say marijuana. There are so many better choices it is laughable. While marijuana serves a purpose, it isn't even a part of a herbal first aid kit.
  
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  - Anonymous Post Author
    
    11 years ago
    
    Exactly, marijuana serves its own purpose, and so do other herbs, there is absolutely no reason people need to be taking man made pills and giving in to the scam that is pharmaceutical companies. But I've found that marijuana instantly 100% treats 10 different things for myself (which is every problem/condition/pain that I've ever had), and it takes quite a few different herbs in these "herbal first aid kits" to achieve the same results.
    
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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  10 years ago
  
  Marijuana cures cancer, nuff said.
  
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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  11 years ago
  
  I have to strongly disagree. It 100% reduces the negative effects of every single illness or pain or disorder that I have, and none of them are even what the government legally allows people to use it medicinally for.
  
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  - kelili
    
    11 years ago
    
    Some couples of months ago after a tooth extraction I was ill and my gum was throbbing with pain. I was moaning and my boyfriend gave me some herds saying that it would calm me down. I didn't believe but tried anyway. And the pain simply vanished!
    
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  - disthing
    
    11 years ago
    
    You're welcome to your opinion. I just don't agree that weed is some wonder drug.
    
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howaminotmyself

11 years ago | pl

I don't think I like your shoes, I'd rather go barefoot.

God didn't give us sex. We are the result of sex. That like saying god gave us gas because we ate some beans.

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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  11 years ago
  
  Well let's pretend he didn't "give" us sex (even though he gave us every single thing we have or do by creating us this way) for your sake of the argument, he still gave us STDs, which I've come to the conclusion is his punishment for sleeping around outside of marriage, because otherwise, barring psychopaths who go around injecting their AIDs blood into people, it is nearly impossible to get an STD if you save yourself for marriage. And the only reason STDs aren't as widespread as they could be between the whores and players is because man invented condoms to preserve what they think is their right.
  
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- 1000yrVampireKing
  
  11 years ago
  
  LMFAO I dont like your shoes. I liked this.
  
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kingofcarrotflowers

11 years ago

I think it's rather unfair to say if you don't believe in god stop reading. We athiests aren't so closed minded that we can't see from someone else's point of view

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- disthing
  
  11 years ago
  
  In all fairness he did also say "...or you can't put yourselves in my shoes".
  
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    11 years ago
    
    Haha oh yeah.
    
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NeuroNeptunian

11 years ago

I can agree with you to an extent. I think just about anything is OK in moderation. Just about. Moderation implies an element of self control.

It takes self control to say "look, I don't have condoms on me, I'm not on birth control, we can't have sex", or, "No, I can't smoke with you today, I have to go to work". If you're smoking in your down time and implementing safe sex measures and those activities are not interfering with you being a functional adult, you're doing good. I believe in God and his natural order and way of things with no doubt in my mind, and I believe that these pleasures we were given were intended as just that, pleasures. Moments of bliss. Not as things to live on. Not as things to depend on solely for happiness. We're given a brain to think and these pleasures to have and we need to realize for ourselves where moderation is and how to stay there.

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- noid
  
  11 years ago
  
  I like your answer.
  
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  - NeuroNeptunian
    
    11 years ago
    
    It's the noid!
    
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MissyLeyneous

11 years ago

You're on the right track... now just lose the attitude and maybe you would get more serious answers from people. :|

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squeallikeasacofpigs

11 years ago

I resent the first disclaimer here. So unless I believe in your God, I can't comment? Right. That's totally cool. It's nice to see the religious types preaching equality, inclusion and love of all people, regardless of their....oh wait no. No. You guys aren't into that are you? I forgot.

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- NeuroNeptunian
  
  11 years ago
  
  Right? I'm the most hateful and intolerant caped crusader I know. Go Bat or go home.
  
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  - squeallikeasacofpigs
    
    11 years ago
    
    What?
    
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    - NeuroNeptunian
      
      11 years ago
      
      Thou shalt have no other superheroes before me!
      
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        11 years ago
        
        You're too hot for batman, it's all about the catwoman outfits
        
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        NeuroNeptunian
        
        11 years ago
        
        Oh you!
        
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Anonymous Post Author

11 years ago

I don't know why I even bothered making this poll on IIN, the vast majority of you people don't even believe in God.

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- disthing
  
  11 years ago
  
  You can delete it at any time.
  
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- 1000yrVampireKing
  
  11 years ago
  
  Sex is to make babies. I think sex feels good to encourage us to reproduce since if it did not feel great at all I do not think anyone would try. People have sex for recreation but it is meant for having babies. You can not take any drug with “zero negative effects” most drugs have side effects. The leaves probably make you high since they are poisonous. You can get high from licking poisonous animals but it does not mean it is good for you. Some things could be used for medicinal use but they all have a down side. Most drugs have the possibility of getting you addicted even mainstream medicine. I think people are the ones who choose to get high. I do not think god would encourage us too. That is like saying we should do meth in moderation.
  
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  - shade_ilmaendu
    
    11 years ago
    
    You can't compare meth to cannabis in terms of addictive potential or harm to the body.
    
    There are slight risks with weed. Of course smoke is never good for you, it's healthier to vaporize or make edibles. It can cause anxiety if not used in moderation, or worsen symptoms of schizophrenia if they are already present. It doesn't cure everything but it's ingredients treat a lot of common disorders with fewer side effects than the comparable pharmeceuticals, and it's far less harmful than alchol.
    
    Meanwhile meth will make you insane, cause you to scratch yourself until you're bleeding and scabby, rot your teeth and quite possibly kill you. Not to mention how severely addictive it is.
    
    Hell, ketamine has more medicinal value in humans than meth does. XD
    
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    - 1000yrVampireKing
      
      11 years ago
      
      Oh I was not talking about the addictiveness. I was meaning the fact people use all these substances to get high or drunk. The op is saying god wants us to get high and drunk and that is why he gave us these plants.
      
      We have poisoness animals that have this type of results but it is to make animals reluctant to eat them. Yes all drugs have a different level of being addictive. Some of clearly worse like meth. Some are not so much but still do damage. Op is saying the only reason people get addicted is since we did not follow the rules of drugs.
      
      That god has supposedly set up to stop us from doing it a lot. I also disagree with the fact god would give us std but humans have seemingly just invented sex. If that was the case why do we get pregnant or fertilize the eggs? That means it was already programmed not something we just decided to invent in later years.
      
      Op believes we should be able to do drugs as long as we do not do it a lot. People might also do meth believing the same thing and never stop. So no I dont think god gave us the gifts of drugs! I think it is something people figured out over time.
      
      The op does not seem to be arguing for the medicinal use either. They seem to want to get high and need a reason to justify it. Which even doing so have already contradicted them self. With the "God did not invent sex but stds" thing they have written.
      
      That is like saying god invented murder because he gave us rocks and we have killed people with rocks. Even if you are Christian I do not think anyone would believe this makes any sense.
      
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      - Anonymous Post Author
        
        11 years ago
        
        For the last time, I don't need God to justify using such a beneficial harmless plant (I've already experienced all the joys and wonders for myself without the slightest thought about God giving it to us, i just thought of this poll's idea the other day), and I do indeed want the medicinal effects of it. I do not believe that people should do drugs, other than the plants and fungi that He put on this earth. And never did I say humans invented sex, God made us this way, and gave sex for the not as intelligent and more/less emotionless (for lack of a better word) animals to reproduce, and cognitive married humans (who he holds to a higher standard than animals) to enjoy and have the potential to make babies with if it's that time of the month.
        And even you can't argue that the alcohol from fruit/plants (though I don't condone alcohol, i dislike it, and what it turns people into, but Jesus himself turned water into wine for His people) and natural marijuana doesn't bring friends and family closer together in social functions as long as they don't go overboard.
        And I never said marijuana is addictive if you don't follow the rules, the high from it has the potential to have the same type of addictiveness as any favorite hobby/interest or food/beverage can be.
        
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        1000yrVampireKing
        
        11 years ago
        
        Second you can predict a women cycle but its not 100% accurate so you can still get pregnant even if its not during that time. So to think you can skip which days a girl gets pregnant is not so easy to do. I really doubt god would give us sex FOR FUN! Sex is for making children. Food can be almost anything. You eat it to make energy and depending on animals you can eat a certain set of foods. Humans can eat anything. We also can produce babies for most of our life while most animals have to wait till once a year. I am not condoning alcohol either. However they actually have had legitimate reasons for drinking alcohol unlike you that keeps saying "I want to be high"!
        
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  - Anonymous Post Author
    
    11 years ago
    
    Every single medicine known to man has side effects. And i'd say if you properly use marijuana for strictly its medicinal purposes, it has the least of all side effects, and the most beneficial effects.
    
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    - 1000yrVampireKing
      
      11 years ago
      
      Envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler, and whoever is led astray by it is not wise.Nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. Woe to those who rise early in the morning, that they may run after strong drink, who tarry late into the evening as wine inflames them!
      
      This does not sound like god wants us to be drunk does it?
      
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      - 1000yrVampireKing
        
        11 years ago
        
        Now didn't that last part sound like a hangover? Do you have anything showing bible says it is a good thing?
        
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        Anonymous Post Author
        
        11 years ago
        
        I never said anything about getting drunk, it makes me sick, and turns other people into bafoons, and violent jerks. God did however say to man, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth.…To you it will be... And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good."
        So stick that in your pipe and smoke it, smoke it real good.
        
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    - 1000yrVampireKing
      
      11 years ago
      
      Medicine is one thing but people do not promote medicine to get high. You want to get high and that is not for medicinal use. So saying you like being high is not going to add a lot to your claim. It also does not seem like you really care about the medicinal use when you say that. It just seems like an excuse to get high.
      
      Which I do believe I have said already in my other comment. Yes but did Jesus ever say "Let get drunk! Be so drunk where you beat your wife and child." I think that would be gluttony and that is under the deadly sins. Also I do not think they would be against drinking since in the old days many people drank.In fact in some places they only drank alcohol because of the contaminated water.
      
      So the point of having alcohol in it was to clean the water. Find a passage that tells people they should get drunk and high and maybe you can use god as an excuse to get high. A lot of people also smoked before they knew it was bad. Beer was also considered a replacement for food as well.
      
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- Justsomejerk
  
  11 years ago
  
  I am God.
  
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- kelili
  
  11 years ago
  
  I understand your frustation. I think that there are many believers here but they stay silent because they know that most people would probably just thumbs them down or be mean if they mention their believes. Many times I have experienced this but I never stop saying that
  
  I BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS CHRIST
  
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patriot071592

11 years ago

I'm sick and tired of the religious bigotry on this site and in liberal America. It's not like we're trying to poison the minds of atheists with religion. I don't have a problem with atheists, but I do have a problem when they say horrible things about us.

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dom180

11 years ago

Married couples can get STDs too, even if they're both faithful and they saved themselves for marriage. You can be born with an STD if your mother had it, and if you don't show symptoms (this can happen with chlamydia and probably some others) you can unwittingly pass it to your partner even if you're married.

There's also the possibility of receiving an STD if you were raped.

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2_damgud_4

11 years ago

marriage doesn't exactly rule out std's .. especially if one or both of the partners were/are promiscuous before or even during the marriage .. just thought i'd point that out .. lol !

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- wigsplitz
  
  11 years ago
  
  I think the whole point he was making was if EVERYBODY waited til marriage to have sex, and only had sex with their spouse, then STD's wouldn't be a concern.
  
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  - q25t
    
    11 years ago
    
    Blood transfusions are still an issue.
    
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      11 years ago
      
      If, since the beginning of time, people ONLY had sex with their spouse, STD's as we know them wouldn't have developed. The opportunity that these diseases take advantage of wouldn't be there so they would have developed to transmit by other means just like any other disease.
      
      If the only way to get a disease is by blood transfusion, then it's not exactly an STD now is it?
      
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      - q25t
        
        11 years ago
        
        It's still an STD regardless. STD's can develop within animals other than humans and cross contamination can occur.
        
        What defines an STD is the possibility of passing it via sexual contact so even if it's not being transferred that way, it is an STD.
        
        Also, if people only had sex with their spouse since the dawn of time, there's a decent chance none of us would be here today. There were several bottlenecks within human history that if polygamy didn't occur, humanity may have died off. It's a sad truth.
        
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fratom

9 years ago

God...Gave me free will... thus giving me choices to believe or not believe in him: I do believe in God: I believe he created me knitted me together in my mothers womb. birthed me out of that sacred space of my mother who was a believer in God. She presented me to the Church to be baptised as Mary and Joseph presented their Son Jesus to be acknowledged by the old Man Simeaon this is truly the Son of God. Through an act of love between my Human/Faith father and Huma/Faith mother.. I began my human/faith journey in the womb: I was born beautiful Male sexua: Then began my huma journey thus Choices had to be made firstly on my behalf and then when I arrived those coices of God's free will began for me: I have chosen to have a healthy mind in a healthy body: but being human I have abused my body during my 68 years of life: But, I have made sufficeient amount of the right Choices to still be fully alive and living my life to the full

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- green_boogers
  
  9 years ago
  
  How can you live life to the fullest if you don't fuck?
  
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snowyshadow

9 years ago

Jesus smoked weed lol

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[email protected]

10 years ago

Agreed.

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2_damgud_4

11 years ago

yes .. as in your own words .. many "unproven" purposes .. which once again means "no proven benefits" aside from being purposeful in the aid of pain relief , and i think if you read up enough there have been more than plenty of studies on illegal substances .. that's why it's been proven that the vast majority of them are bad for you with once again zilch proven benefits.It may be working personally for you now because you have yet to experience the long term side effects.As for "revelations" about figuring out what you really want to do with your life , forgiving your father etc whilst high .. i invite you to stay away from the weed for a few months and see what you think about these things then .. i'm quite sure you could of figured things out without being influenced by thc since it does give one a chemically altered reality which therefore leads to altered judgement .. if you can't make judgements or decisions without such substances then .. sorry but you can't be very stable or strong mentally.Good luck with your life though.

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Terence_the_viking

11 years ago

Sex is the cure for all diseases.

Depressed have sex no depression.

Obese have lots of sex no obesity.

I could go on but i think you get the point.

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- 1000yrVampireKing
  
  11 years ago
  
  So are you saying all hookers are thrilled and very happy people?
  
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    11 years ago
    
    When sex is done right it is awesome.
    
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      11 years ago
      
      Ok so are all hookers happy?
      
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        11 years ago
        
        I'll let you figure that one out.
        
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suckonthis9

11 years ago

Which deity do you believe gave you these things?

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2_damgud_4

11 years ago

marijuana on the other hand has been proven to provide next to zilch benefit medically except in the treatment of pain .. then you also have to examine the psychiatric side effects of long term use of thc also.

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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  11 years ago
  
  Things that I have proven work for myself is that it helps me with anxiety, depression, body pain, headaches/migraines, insomnia, negative thoughts, and lack of appetite to name a few. Not to mention it expands your mind, and has helped me figure out how to get through many things. While high, i decided that life's too short and I need to forgive and respect my father. While high, I decided i need to work a lot harder in school, and gain as much retainable knowledge as possible to help me in my career and life. I wasted 3 years in college on 3 different majors that I ended up not liking, and while high, i came up with the idea of what I really wanted to do with my life, and am loving it now.
  It also has the potential of many unproven purposes, such as stunting the growth and/or preventing Alzheimer's and cancer. The only reason there aren't more "proven" medicinal effects, is because no one is willing to properly study an illegal substance.
  
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