I think it's easy to pass judgements when we aren't on the ground, and we don't have the full story. With politics at play, these people are stuck in between, searching for the life we take for granted. The violence is an act of desperation, where their words keep falling on deaf ears, and the police retaliate with greater violence, indiscriminate to women or children. While restrictions should be in place and thorough checks done, the people should be treated like human beings.
They were being treated like humans. The courts were processing the asylum claims and that takes time. They are being treated like anyone else who would have done the same thing. The problem is they have no right to throw rocks at border police and no right to rush the border. When there are over 5,000 people claiming asylum in Tijuana alone it's not as easy as just let them in. 40 to 100 of them are being allowed to request asylum each day which is about the amount that the port of entry can process.
Have you seen their side of the story and looked at interviews with the immigrants or did you just get this information about their fair treatment from one of the major media houses looking to show off the government as heroes and win votes? It's easy to say if you were in that situation, you wouldn't do the same thing, because you haven't been forced to desperation and don't have the same weight of problems on you. I'm not saying condone, I'm saying try to understand the background of the situation. Police aren't innocent. I've been involved in protests and sometimes they provoke the crowd and even try to forcefully clear a peaceful crowd, which instigates violence.
Obviously they aren't desperate enough as they did refuse Mexico's offer of asylum. People shouldn't have a right to pick and choose what country they go to for asylum. There are people worse of than them and people who have been waiting years to seek refuge from other countries here in the US from actual oppression. Most of the people in the Caravan are, in fact, adult men who are coming here to try to work and not because they are persecuted. I don't have a problem with that mentality, but coming here for work is not a reason to claim asylum and it never has been a reason to claim asylum. Those people should have instead applied for work visas and/or gone through the process to become citizens.
They have every right to apply for asylum for any reason, but they can be turned down if it doesn't meet their criteria. Tear gas wouldn't have been used if they would have just waited to be processed like it's supposed to be. US border officials didn't even use the tear gas till they actually reached the border. What you don't seem to understand is that there aren't that many border police in one spot along the border. A few hundred people could easily over power the people at the border and what would you rather them have done? It would have been impossible to stop the violence and disperse the crowd trying to rush the border without the use of tear gas or would you have rather them to have started shooting at them and/or waiting for them to get across so the officers would have to put themselves in harms way by having to attempt to arrest every single one of them?
So much this. Asylum seeking isn't like shopping, I have a comparison.
A girl is being chased by a murderer, a man opens the door and offers to let her in, but she says no and keeps on running to the mansion at the end of the street, but they don't let her in and she gets killed (the cartels pose a real threat to all the so-called "migrants"). See how idiotic it all is?
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I think it's easy to pass judgements when we aren't on the ground, and we don't have the full story. With politics at play, these people are stuck in between, searching for the life we take for granted. The violence is an act of desperation, where their words keep falling on deaf ears, and the police retaliate with greater violence, indiscriminate to women or children. While restrictions should be in place and thorough checks done, the people should be treated like human beings.
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They were being treated like humans. The courts were processing the asylum claims and that takes time. They are being treated like anyone else who would have done the same thing. The problem is they have no right to throw rocks at border police and no right to rush the border. When there are over 5,000 people claiming asylum in Tijuana alone it's not as easy as just let them in. 40 to 100 of them are being allowed to request asylum each day which is about the amount that the port of entry can process.
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Have you seen their side of the story and looked at interviews with the immigrants or did you just get this information about their fair treatment from one of the major media houses looking to show off the government as heroes and win votes? It's easy to say if you were in that situation, you wouldn't do the same thing, because you haven't been forced to desperation and don't have the same weight of problems on you. I'm not saying condone, I'm saying try to understand the background of the situation. Police aren't innocent. I've been involved in protests and sometimes they provoke the crowd and even try to forcefully clear a peaceful crowd, which instigates violence.
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Obviously they aren't desperate enough as they did refuse Mexico's offer of asylum. People shouldn't have a right to pick and choose what country they go to for asylum. There are people worse of than them and people who have been waiting years to seek refuge from other countries here in the US from actual oppression. Most of the people in the Caravan are, in fact, adult men who are coming here to try to work and not because they are persecuted. I don't have a problem with that mentality, but coming here for work is not a reason to claim asylum and it never has been a reason to claim asylum. Those people should have instead applied for work visas and/or gone through the process to become citizens.
They have every right to apply for asylum for any reason, but they can be turned down if it doesn't meet their criteria. Tear gas wouldn't have been used if they would have just waited to be processed like it's supposed to be. US border officials didn't even use the tear gas till they actually reached the border. What you don't seem to understand is that there aren't that many border police in one spot along the border. A few hundred people could easily over power the people at the border and what would you rather them have done? It would have been impossible to stop the violence and disperse the crowd trying to rush the border without the use of tear gas or would you have rather them to have started shooting at them and/or waiting for them to get across so the officers would have to put themselves in harms way by having to attempt to arrest every single one of them?
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So much this. Asylum seeking isn't like shopping, I have a comparison.
A girl is being chased by a murderer, a man opens the door and offers to let her in, but she says no and keeps on running to the mansion at the end of the street, but they don't let her in and she gets killed (the cartels pose a real threat to all the so-called "migrants"). See how idiotic it all is?