"it's disrespectful to its origins" Is a fact (if you know your history), not an opinion, so it's quite valid as an argument.
"institutions that oppress people don't deserve respect until they stop oppressing people."
That on the otherhand is an valid opinion, not a valid fact.
Because it's breaking the law of the religion that created it. It's not an opinion, it's a written fact. If it wasn't disrespectful, gays would have been getting married for the last 2000 years and the entire issue wouldn't exist in the first place!
I'm not saying you have to like it and i can see why many wouldn't, but that doesn't change it from being true.
People who aren't part of your religion aren't being disrespectful by not following your religion's rules, they're just not being part of your religion.
But marriage is part of that religion, the church always decided who was allowed to marry. It's basic history that you are trying to argue with, don't you know anything about the topic?
You are saying only what you want to hear. And it's not my religion, i just read alot.
You're completely disregarding the fact that there have been cultures throughout history with same sex marriage. Same sex marriage wasn't outlawed in Ancient Rome until 342 AD. Some areas of ancient China had same sex marriage, as well, as did a variety of Native American cultures. The has only decided who gets married in areas of the world where it has had power, which means that you're ignoring huge hunks of the world.
If you're talking about the US (please correct me if you aren't, as I have no idea where you live), religion isn't supposed to be the basis of our government anyway, so what's accepted by churches is a moot point.
Other cultures, not western ones and not under the catholic church. It's that simple. And no i'm ignoring tiny pieces of the world. Homosexuality was illeagal in nearly every part of the world, in nearly evry religion, in nearly evry year of civalised existance. Rome had lots of homosexual activity, but it was illegal under their law. Because i'm not talking about "if they did" i'm talking about "if they were allowed"
What do you think of same sex marriage?
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"it's disrespectful to its origins" Is a fact (if you know your history), not an opinion, so it's quite valid as an argument.
"institutions that oppress people don't deserve respect until they stop oppressing people."
That on the otherhand is an valid opinion, not a valid fact.
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I'm not sure how you figure that whether something is disrespectful isn't a matter of opinion.
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Because it's breaking the law of the religion that created it. It's not an opinion, it's a written fact. If it wasn't disrespectful, gays would have been getting married for the last 2000 years and the entire issue wouldn't exist in the first place!
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People who aren't part of your religion aren't being disrespectful by not following your religion's rules, they're just not being part of your religion.
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But marriage is part of that religion, the church always decided who was allowed to marry. It's basic history that you are trying to argue with, don't you know anything about the topic?
You are saying only what you want to hear. And it's not my religion, i just read alot.
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You're completely disregarding the fact that there have been cultures throughout history with same sex marriage. Same sex marriage wasn't outlawed in Ancient Rome until 342 AD. Some areas of ancient China had same sex marriage, as well, as did a variety of Native American cultures. The has only decided who gets married in areas of the world where it has had power, which means that you're ignoring huge hunks of the world.
If you're talking about the US (please correct me if you aren't, as I have no idea where you live), religion isn't supposed to be the basis of our government anyway, so what's accepted by churches is a moot point.
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Other cultures, not western ones and not under the catholic church. It's that simple. And no i'm ignoring tiny pieces of the world. Homosexuality was illeagal in nearly every part of the world, in nearly evry religion, in nearly evry year of civalised existance. Rome had lots of homosexual activity, but it was illegal under their law. Because i'm not talking about "if they did" i'm talking about "if they were allowed"