What do you think of president trump’s coronavirus response?

Trump’s mishandling of the Covid-19 led to deaths that could have been prevented. He definitely could have done more! He could have promoted social distancing, hand washing, making masks until enough commercial versions were available, ramping up PPE production, etc.
However, he promoted unproven drugs. He suggested hydroxychloroquine would be “one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine.” It has become one of the greatest jokes, with real damage done in the wasted time and resources that could have gone to productive medical purposes.
Political polarization broke America’s vaccine campaign. The US’s partisan divides have left much of the country vulnerable to Covid-19, leading to unnecessary deaths.
Trump passed virus buck to WHO, Obama and other countries. He didn’t take responsibility at all.

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  • 1WeirdGuy

    I think its funny because when he shut down travel from china the left called him racist and bigoted and said the virus was less dangerous than the flu. Google "corona virus january 2020" and read some of those articles. Then tell me who responded better to the virus, the left or the right.

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  • LloydAsher

    Yes he could of done more... if you wanted trump to commit blatantly authoritarian controls over local and state goverments. Trump HAD the power to do so. He CHOSE not to.

    Cuomo killed 15000 elderly when he sent the sick to elderly homes when the USS mercy was on standby. Weres the calls for his arrest and punishment for doing something ANYONE with basic common sense would not do.

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  • MonteMetcalfe

    The reason the vaccine became available so soon is due to the efforts of Trump.

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    • GaelicPotato

      Lol.

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  • He was anti lockdown which was good. One of his better decisions.

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    • GaelicPotato

      No it wasn't. Americas literally one of the worst countries as far as covid numbers go lol

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      • Tommythecaty

        Because it has one of the biggest populations derrrrrp

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        • GaelicPotato

          Haha yeah that isn't the statistic you wanna look at.

          You want to look at the cases in relation to the population. The statistic Total Cases per Million accounts for low population or high population places.

          The US places 15 on Total Cases per Million. They're not doing the absolute worst, but considering the statistics rank 221 countries, they're doing pretty dreadful.

          This is a direct result of how the country handled Covid-19.

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          • Tommythecaty

            There’s a whole bunch of factors that need to be accounted for in that though. The US has a far more complex societal structure, not to mention the amount of traffic in and out of the place. It would be a nightmare to quarantine or treat its population for anything.

            I think it’s stats are exactly what I’d expect, if not better.

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            • GaelicPotato

              I'd say at this point regardless, it's best to be optimistic and try your individual best rather than blame X or Y.

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  • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

    what do you think of president clintons al quaeda response?

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    • LornaMae

      What do you think of president Reagan's performance in Bedtime for Bonzo?

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      • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

        currently in south korea

        really startin to appreciate truman & eisenhowers responses to provocation

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  • ZREBELX

    Yep. Hiden even just said the other day the vaccine came from a republican administration, and was administered under a democrat administration. Funny though, both Hiden, and Kumala, got the jab before T-Rump left office.

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    I think you’re giving Trump far too much credit. He advocated for using hydroxychloroquine as a COVID treatment, which is not only dangerous but ineffective. He openly speculated on the possibility of injecting bleach into people to treat COVID. I really don’t think he’s worried about losing popularity with his followers…the way he downplayed COVID from the beginning, despite knowing how serious it was, has lead to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of his supporters and it hasn’t put a dent in his popularity. In the end he didn’t do it, but it wasn’t an unreasonable possibility at the time.

    Media Matters has actually been tracking the vaccine coverage on Fox News https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/foxs-effort-undermine-vaccines-has-only-worsened You can read it for yourself but it says a third of all COVID segments have included claims that the vaccine is unnecessary or dangerous and 60% of them have undermined or downplayed the vaccine effort.

    I don’t know, since Harris and Biden were both pro science and pro vaccine before the election and it was always people on the left who were following the guidance of the experts, following the guidance of the CDC, the whole time he was in office. I can’t imagine that changing just because he won, unless he did something to sabotage or delegitimize the approval process, which there’d be no reason to do at that point. All he cares about is getting credit for how fast the vaccine was approved, despite the fact that Operation Warp Speed had nothing to do with the development of the first approved vaccine.

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  • Ummitsstillme

    Trump is not president. He likely would have just dropped bombs on people as they exited. Biden couldn't be more stupid, and Trump would have been equally bad.

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    • LloydAsher

      I dont actually see trump doing that. Hes as not as ridiculously retarded as the media makes him out to be .

      Chances are the Taliban would of still been trying to backstab us. They would just be too petrified by trump to actually do anything. He got them to the bargaining table, biden fucked up on that table.

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      • Ummitsstillme

        I despise Trump, but I will admit atleast he had conviction.

        He shat all over NATO and European alies... He wanted a wall, he wanted a healthy proper exit from Afghanistan, he wanted to make the USA energy independent.

        The Biden/Harris administration has found new desperate NATO friends in their desperation to save people in Afghanistan.

        Harris and Biden have a greater nightmare at the southern U.S. border. The Biden/Harris response to hurricanes wouldn't be god awful if they hadn't destrooyed America's energy independence.

        Seriously? Dumb greenies have to know that moving gas on trains instead of via pipelines is so much worse for the environment, as is importing any foreign energy.

        I can't even... Trump said he would have kept the military in afghanistan until everyone was evacuated, and then blow up all of our stuff. I almost believe the maniac.

        God, it is so sad how low i.q. this current administration is when crazy Trump seems alert and competent.

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        • LloydAsher

          That's what happens when people vote against someone instead of for someone. Anyone who knew of Biden politically would know that this would happen. Obama himself said that biden fucks things up.

          I know trump is an unsavory charicter but it's better that the asshole is on our side fighting for shit his voters want him to do. That's a lot more transparent than what most politicans were doing.

          Trump was at least honest. I'm way more accepting of pointless wars if I know what we are there specifically for.

          Hell if it was just for keeping afganistan pacified for longer it would of been a pretty good reason.

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          • Ummitsstillme

            Yeah it is crazy how a newby like Obama quickly clearly understood Biden was an ally to get into office, but ultimately knew he was a moron, even during his younger years.

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            • LloydAsher

              My theory was that he still needed a white guy. Why not choose a white guy that was worse than himself to the republicans?

              Every person who didnt like Obama REALLY didnt like the idea of biden being in office.

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          • Ummitsstillme

            Can you say "have" instead of, "of" Asher...

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            • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

              wouldve

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            • LloydAsher

              Iin is doing something weird when I try to edit comments it deletes the spaces. Makes it into a big paragraph. Kinda a bitch to rearrange.

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  • Correction

    No, they said they would only trust a vaccine that the experts said was safe, not one that Trump rushed through to have it done by Election Day. Here’s an extensive list of quotes: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/23/tiktok-posts/biden-harris-doubted-trump-covid-19-vaccines-not-v/

    Some highlights:

    "Well, I think that's going to be an issue for all of us. I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump. And it would have to be a credible source of information that talks about the efficacy and the reliability of whatever he's talking about. I will not take his word for it. He wants us to inject bleach. I — no, I will not take his word."

    "If the public health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it. Absolutely. But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it, I’m not taking it."

    “ And the question of whether it’s real, when it’s there, that requires enormous transparency. You’ve got to make all of it available to other experts across the nation, so they can look and see, so there’s consensus this is a safe vaccine.”

    “ ‘If the president announced tomorrow we have a vaccine, would you take it?’ Only if it was completely transparent, that other experts in the country could look at it, only if we knew all of what went into it.”

    “Let me be clear: I trust vaccines, I trust scientists, but I don’t trust Donald Trump, and at this moment, the American people can’t either. Last week, Senator Harris and I laid out three questions this administration’s going to have to answer to assure the American people that politics will not play a role whatsoever in the vaccine process.“

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    • MonteMetcalfe

      She never gave a time limit such as not trusting a vaccine that was being rushed through by election day. But she did say "But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it, I’m not taking it."

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        Right…that quote was in my post. In full context. Immediately before that she said "If the public health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it. Absolutely.“

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        • 1WeirdGuy

          God damn if she's getting her info from Fauci we are all gonna die 😂

          That guy has been wrong about everything. Look up the compilation videos of his blunders if you wanna laugh.

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            Yeah, it is pretty funny how easy it is to take something out of context and intentionally make it sound like somebody’s saying something completely different. Like all those lip reading videos, hilarious.

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  • DADNSCAL

    You're absolutely right. At first he called it a hoax, until he got it. Then said people should dri k bleach or some other unproven chemical.

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    Meh. I get what you’re saying but even if you take out everything else, the basic fact is still there; Trump advocated for it after it’d been proven both ineffective and dangerous. You can see Trump’s tweets for yourself and you can see what the WHO, FDA, NIH, etc said about it for yourself. On the heels of statements like that, it’s easy to see why Harris and Biden would think Trump was capable of advocating for a vaccine that hadn’t been approved yet and covering their bases.

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    I completely agree with you about context, I always try to be fair to Trump about what he actually said. It bothers me when people make it sound like what he said was worse than it actually was, because what he actually said is usually bad enough and there’s no need to exaggerate. But he did indeed advocate for hydroxychloroquine to be used and claimed it had already been tested, long after the WHO, FDA, NIH. and other experts pretty conclusively determined it wasn’t safe or effective.
    https://pharmaphorum.com/news/trumps-tweets-advocate-hydroxychloroquine-as-big-covid-19-vaccine-trials-start/
    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/timeline-tracking-trump-alongside-scientific-developments-hydroxychloroquine/story?id=72170553

    Fair enough, we’re all entitled to our own opinions, and obviously there’s no way to prove what would’ve happened if he had won. But for a party that’s always been pro-science and pro-facts, a politician doing a 180 like that would be political suicide.

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    Yeah, I think there’s probably room to criticize some of Biden’s comments, but nobody’s ever accused him of being eloquent or easy to understand, so that’s par for the course. I don’t see anything wrong with what Harris said, she directly said she’d be first in line to take a vaccine the experts said was safe. I think it’s smart to cover all your bases with somebody as…unpredictable…as Trump. Would anybody have been surprised to wake up one day to a tweet from Trump randomly saying the vaccine was ready to go and demanding they start administering it? It wouldn’t be the first or last time he called for something he had no authority to do.

    Plus, aren’t people allowed to change their minds? I planned on waiting to get vaccinated up until about two days before I was eligible, and then I changed my mind and got vaccinated the first day I could. It happens. This isn’t like all the Fox News people cutting in line to get vaccinated off air while simultaneously telling everybody COVID is no big deal and they shouldn’t get vaccinated on air.

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